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Grizzly mom that mauled Yellowstone hiker euthanized after DNA links bear to 2nd hiker attack
WaPo ^ | October 4, 2011 | AP

Posted on 10/05/2011 9:19:18 AM PDT by jazusamo

BILLINGS, Mont. — A grizzly bear that fatally mauled a hiker in Yellowstone National Park was killed after DNA evidence linked the animal to the scene of a second hiker’s death a month later, a park official said Monday.

The decision to euthanize the 250-pound female bear was meant to protect park visitors and staff, Superintendent Dan Wenk said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: grizzlyattack; montana; yellowstone
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Their decision to not kill the sow grizzly after the first death could very well have cost John Wallace his life.
1 posted on 10/05/2011 9:19:29 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: george76; Flycatcher; girlangler; Inyo-Mono; MamaDearest

Yellowstone Grizzly Ping!


2 posted on 10/05/2011 9:22:48 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

That’s a shame because we ‘Grizzly Moms’ are going to be a HUGE voting block come 2012. *SMIRK*

Too bad the guy lost his life, but some days we’re the bear and some days we’re the picnic lunch...


3 posted on 10/05/2011 9:23:41 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: jazusamo

You are correct. Had she been killed he may still be alive. I bet lawyers are in touch with the Wallace family?


4 posted on 10/05/2011 9:24:58 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: jazusamo

I am sorry, but John Wallace’ decision to hike- SOLO - in an area within 10 miles of a previous fatal bear attack- tempted his own fate.


5 posted on 10/05/2011 9:26:28 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
True, but the shame here is this may very well be that sows second victim and those Park Rangers are going to have to do some soul searching.
6 posted on 10/05/2011 9:28:18 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: silverleaf

Not disputing that, but when any wild animal kills a human it should be put down.


7 posted on 10/05/2011 9:29:52 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

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8 posted on 10/05/2011 9:31:09 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

This outcome was predicted the moment the original decision was made, “because she was protecting her young”.


9 posted on 10/05/2011 9:31:09 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: jazusamo
"meant to protect park visitors"

So that means they didn't take down the sow after the first murder because they were more interested in protecting the bear than park visitors.

Whoever made the decision to let the bear off the hook the first time belongs in jail....harboring a criminal.

10 posted on 10/05/2011 9:32:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jazusamo

>> 250-pound female bear

Two-fifty seems low for a grizzly sow.

Heck, I’ve had girlfriends that weighed more than *that*.


11 posted on 10/05/2011 9:32:55 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: jazusamo

Are you going to kill every bear until you get the right bear? They waited until the DNA evidence came in and put the bear down.


12 posted on 10/05/2011 9:33:12 AM PDT by halo66
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To: jazusamo

Absolutely...


13 posted on 10/05/2011 9:35:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: halo66

Now that’s just silly, they knew the bear that killed the first person, there were witnesses.


14 posted on 10/05/2011 9:35:52 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

euthenized means they killed it.


15 posted on 10/05/2011 9:36:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: jazusamo

Mr Wallace’s hiking in the bear’s domain cost him his life.

The bear did what bears do.


16 posted on 10/05/2011 9:36:30 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: the invisib1e hand

Wow, really? /sarc


17 posted on 10/05/2011 9:43:10 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I’ll never forget the night (about forty years ago) when a bear at Sequoia National Part tore through an empty tent next door before tearing an ice chest loose from the fender region of a nearby parked car.

Next morning, we discovered that the bear took the chest about 20 yards from the (long-gone) car and ate some of the contents.

What the bear didn’t eat, was a bag of bread rolls.

We’ve called them “bear buns” ever since.


18 posted on 10/05/2011 9:44:09 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: jazusamo

You can’t blame a grizzly for acting like a grizzly, but you CAN blame wildlife service people for acting like idiots.

There should be two bear zones. The “Inner Zone” an area where anyone hiking, camping, etc. is limited and required to be armed with and proficient in the use of a suitable firearm. If you go there and wind up as grizzly sushi - well, you were warned.

An OUTER Zone insulating the rest of the countryside where any gizz may be shot on sight to keep their numbers confined to the “Inner Zone”.


19 posted on 10/05/2011 9:44:54 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: RitchieAprile

And people didn’t do what people should have done.


20 posted on 10/05/2011 9:44:58 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: RitchieAprile

Spoken like a true Defenders of Wildlife member.


21 posted on 10/05/2011 9:46:25 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

In a situation like this, do they euthanize the cubs as well? (meaning if the cubs are still young and won’t survive without their mother?)


22 posted on 10/05/2011 9:46:59 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: jazusamo
....after DNA evidence linked the animal to the scene of a second hiker’s death

WTH??? DNA evidence? What did they do? Swab the sows' cheek? Find some scat and then compared the DNA in the scat to the deceased??? Tissue in the sows paws?

"Excuse me Ms. Grizzly, may I take a sample of your DNA and see if it matches the DNA of the deceased?"

I suppose they could have found some DNA evidence at the scene that belonged to the sow, but, what then? Did they do this before or after the sow was "euthanised"?

Geez....

23 posted on 10/05/2011 9:47:33 AM PDT by China Clipper (2))
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To: jazusamo

No...what is silly is that you have hikers in a bear habitat, and you think that we have to punish the bear for doing what any wild animal would do.

I completely agree if this bear had come into a populated area outside of its normal habitat and killed someone, that you would have to deal with it appropriately. But, this is one of the very few areas in the U.S. where grizzlies thrive.


24 posted on 10/05/2011 9:48:17 AM PDT by halo66
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To: ZULU

You make a good point.

I believe it’s now legal to carry a firearm in a National Park but don’t under what circumstances.


25 posted on 10/05/2011 9:51:19 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: China Clipper

This bear may have been trapped, tagged , and DNA tested in the past. They have records like this on many of the bears in this area.


26 posted on 10/05/2011 9:54:24 AM PDT by halo66
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To: jazusamo

Did you read the article at all?

There were NINE bears that fed on Wallace.

Until this particular sow was linked to the second mauling death there was no indication that she did anything different than the other EIGHT bears.

Are you actually suggesting that because one hiker got killed and nine bears fed on his remains that we go out and kill nine bears (more if you count the starvation death of their cubs)?


27 posted on 10/05/2011 9:58:47 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: jazusamo
My hiking "companions":

Three Smiths

This one in 44Mag is for Grizzly.

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28 posted on 10/05/2011 9:59:33 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: halo66

There are an estimated 600 grizzlies in Yellowstone and there’s been very few attacks on humans over the years. This sow killed a human a couple months ago and the Park Service knew this bear did it and refused to put her down. Now it looks like she killed another human a month after her first kill.

I’ll say again, any wild animal that kills a human should be put down if the animal can be identified, no matter where it takes place.


29 posted on 10/05/2011 10:00:53 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: momtothree

They usually try to find a zoo or some other group that has experience with raising bears. I believe the sow that killed a man outside of Yellowstone last year had cubs that were sent to a facility in Montana. If they can’t find someone, they usually euthanize them.


30 posted on 10/05/2011 10:02:12 AM PDT by halo66
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To: jazusamo

Well, that is the difference in our views. So be it...


31 posted on 10/05/2011 10:04:09 AM PDT by halo66
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To: momtothree

I don’t know what they did in this instance. I think it depends on their age and whether they can find a zoo or rescue facility that will take them.


32 posted on 10/05/2011 10:04:51 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; halo66

I understand. Thank you.


33 posted on 10/05/2011 10:07:07 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: allmendream

Nah, I post articles all the time without reading them. /sarc


34 posted on 10/05/2011 10:08:11 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
I’ll say it again, any wild animal that kills a human should be put down if the animal can be identified, no matter where it takes place. bttt
35 posted on 10/05/2011 10:09:57 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: jazusamo
The media's obsession with the childish word "mom" has finally jumped the shark.

The word "mom" is now being used to describe a female bear. Sheesh.

36 posted on 10/05/2011 10:10:33 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: jazusamo

Well then.....

The article that you may or may not have read said that NINE bears fed on Wallace.

Are you suggesting they are negligent for not tracking down and killing all NINE bears - most of which we can assume only fed on the body - as bears are wont to do?


37 posted on 10/05/2011 10:15:03 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

Good point. I believe the animal rights crowd is responsible for much of this. They rant about abused, neglected pets and animals and how we’ve invaded the wild animals habitat and how we have to learn to live with them.

The majority of these groups whether it be PETA, the HSUS or wildlife groups are doing it for donations to bring lawsuits to support their organizations. The welfare of the animals in most cases with these groups comes second.

The vast majority are liberal groups so the enemedia are happy to side with them.


38 posted on 10/05/2011 10:21:38 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Sort of ironic, isn’t it that a momma bear is given a pass when killing someone protecting her young but the full force of the US Government is brought to bear on a guy shooting a grizzly on his own property while protecting his young.


39 posted on 10/05/2011 10:24:13 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: allmendream

Why don’t you google the prior articles on these killings, they’re educational. There’s no question this sow killed the first person and it’s DNA was found at the second scene.

You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to make the connection and it seems the Park Service made that connection, even though they refused to put the sow down after the first killing.


40 posted on 10/05/2011 10:25:52 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Idiots. And they were called so before the death of the 2nd person. I was chastised for saying once a bear tastes human blood then it is over.


41 posted on 10/05/2011 10:27:28 AM PDT by Revel
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To: VeniVidiVici
Great point. It shows the mindset of many of the bureaucrats that are running wildlife management in the country, their priorities leave a lot to be desired.
43 posted on 10/05/2011 10:29:17 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: halo66

I still think grizzlies should be reintroduced in California. It is after all the symbol on their state flag. The best place to reintroduce them is the hills of Malibu where the most liberal tree huggers with money live.


44 posted on 10/05/2011 10:32:58 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier ("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
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To: Revel

Exactly. And the way they’ve delayed putting this info out and making it sound like there’s still doubt shows that they know they messed up. The bunk about not being sure is to try to partially cover their blatant mistake.


45 posted on 10/05/2011 10:34:38 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

There is a great deal of question, and still is, if this particular sow killed Wallace (the first person).

It’s DNA was found at the scene on Wallace along with the DNA of EIGHT OTHER BEARS.

There was no indication given that this sow did anything to Wallace other than feed on his body - as did eight other bears.

Now are you suggesting that because one hiker got mauled and NINE bears fed on his body - that the Park Service should go out and kill NINE bears?


46 posted on 10/05/2011 10:45:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: jazusamo
Their decision to not kill the sow grizzly after the first death could very well have cost John Wallace his life.

It should have been put down after the first attack. After the first attack the bear then realized that humans are easy kills.

47 posted on 10/05/2011 10:52:58 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: allmendream

No. The eight other bears didn’t kill Brian Matayoshi (the first person killed).


48 posted on 10/05/2011 10:55:23 AM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
I saw this grizz 2 weeks ago at the Anchorage Zoo. The size of their claws is incredible. They are true killing machines! Image and video hosting by TinyPic
49 posted on 10/05/2011 11:00:49 AM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: jazusamo

The same evidence that linked the other eight bears to Wallace’s dead body is the same evidence that linked this particular sow to Wallace’s dead body - DNA from scat that shows she (and eight other bears) fed on his body.

There was no evidence given that would indicate this sow as more likely than any of the others to be the killer until she was linked to a second mauling death.

So do you suggest that if a hiker is killed by a bear and they show that nine bears fed on his body - that all nine bears should be killed?


50 posted on 10/05/2011 11:06:01 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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