Skip to comments.Is "cloud" just a slick marketing term for "outsourced"?
Posted on 10/08/2011 5:55:49 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
Ever find yourself not trusting something or someone from the first moment - but not knowing why?
For instance the first moment you saw a politician, instantly not trusting them but you just couldn't place why?
*cough* John Edwards *cough*.
Well that's what I thought the first time I heard about "cloud computing".
This morning, trying to avoid the Palin whatever-it-is, for some reason it dawned on me what it is about the "cloud" which has been doing that:
"Cloud" computing, is just a fancy term for outsourcing American jobs!!
Go ahead and google the two words together:
Hey. You. Stay offa the cloud!
By the way I don’t believe in stopping progress all in the name of protecting jobs..
I thought “cloud” refered to secure networking.
Back in the day what is called a cloud, was called a server. Only the cloud is more sophisticated, iCloud probably more so due to it’s seamless capabilities in syncing up your devices.
It has it’s uses, but I wouldn’t put personal, or proprietary company data on one. I would much rather have, possibly in addition to the national/global cloud, a local cloud that I control that would handle the task of seamlessly syncing up all my devices.
BTW: apple’s cloud is in NC, USA.
Clearly, you don’t have a clue what Cloud computing is all about.
Cloud computing is an extension of virtual machines.
A virtual machine (VM) is a complete OS instance that runs independent of hardware. In it’s simplest form, you can create multiple Windows instances that run inside of your computer (inside of windows).
The advantage of VMs is that your machine can be transferred to any hardware. Furthermore it can be copied.
Now consider that idea in corporate america. It allows the IT dept to slice hardware into independent server instances. It allows them to backup instances that are bootable easily. It allows them to create instance profiles that can be deployed quickly and customized.
Now to the cloud. Clouds primarily do 2 things. First you can start multiple instances of the same VM. If the software on the VM is written well that will parallelize the processes. Second it commmodotizes CPU time. The cloud providers can allocate more and less CPU ticks as necessary, and they can charge for that power.
Outsourcing is independent of VM or clouds. A company can have a physical data center outsourced just as easily as a virtual data center.
Very informative post, thanks!
A “cloud” is a dynamic arrangement of multiple potential single points of failure, with a user at one end, and their data at the other.
Why are you so dumb?
just think of it this way
you could have your own ‘cloud’ inside your home
all computers linked toether
and when one of them is doing a major computation it can borrow time to do some parts of the computation on all the machines, when they would be otherwise idle. (most of the time your computer is idle) that way you have the power of all machines working on the problem.
thats sort of the gist of it.
and when wew are all linked up and processing this way we will call it “Sky Net” and it will be so nice!
IT jobs were being outsourced overseas long before cloud computing came onto the scene.
We have a winner!!!!!!
I can not understand why an individual or company would ever allow mission critical applications or data out of their control. Disaster Recovery, great idea, but not for day-to-day operations.
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Why not “cloud” transportation? No private cars;call a taxi or ride the bus.
Why not “cloud” housing? Never own property ,just rent it and hot-bunk for minimum costs!
I'll keep my data and programs stored locally,thank you very much! If the internet is down because of system failures or government or other hackers, at least I can still do some work.
Networking also brings control;I know one company that insists all computers go through distant servers that WHEN(not if) the servers have an issue,many programs and functions are unavailable.But the home office is in CONTROL of every keystroke.whoopee.
Especially for mid-sized and smaller companies, it's VERY difficult to pull together the IT talent which can manage such a system with reasonable reliability and security.
For individual small business owners it almost impossible; even much simpler on-site backup procedures frequently fail because of limitations in knowledge and/or imperfect backup discipline.
Protectionist of what? You don’t even know the first thing about the technology you’re ranting about. You obviously did no research. Reply #7 laid out the basics and it was clear you didn’t know any of it.
What the hell ever happened to informed opinions on this site? Good God...
"Cloud computing" can be like that, with the added caveat that when it does happen won't necessarily know or be able to find out where those servers are, or even who owns and controls them.
I asked a question. I suspect “cloud” computing is intertwined with outsourcing US jobs.
Understanding from a very informative post above, the two are independent of each other. Which does not preclude significant inter-relationship between the two.
You evidently don’t think so. You see yourself as informed.
I never claimed to be informed. You might notice the question mark, on the title?
I have however seen a (lot) of coworkers lose their jobs to outsourcing. I’m sick and tired of saying “I’m so sorry” to people as they walk out with their stuff in a box.
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