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Quantum life: The weirdness inside us
NewScientist ^ | October 6, 2011 | Michael Brooks

Posted on 10/08/2011 11:36:11 AM PDT by Reeses

Ever felt a little incoherent? Or maybe you've been in two minds about something, or even in a bit of delicate state. Well, here's your excuse: perhaps you are in thrall to the strange rules of quantum mechanics.

We tend to think that the interaction between quantum physics and biology stops with Schrödinger's cat. Not that Erwin Schrödinger intended his unfortunate feline - suspended thanks to quantum rules in a simultaneous state of being both dead and alive - to be anything more than a metaphor. Indeed, when he wrote his 1944 book What is Life?, he speculated that living organisms would do everything they could to block out the fuzziness of quantum physics.

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TOPICS: Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: faithandphilosophy; quantum; stringtheory
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Ideas from the stranger side of physics could explain some long-standing mysteries of biology

NewScientist is a non-peer-reviewed international science magazine covering recent developments in science and technology for a general audience.

1 posted on 10/08/2011 11:36:15 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

hence, if Obama wrecks the economy, does does anybody care?


2 posted on 10/08/2011 11:49:31 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Reeses

Even without the proposal in the article that the sense of smell may require quantum mechanical explanations, it’s clear that certain neuron firings (in the retina) can be triggered by single quantum mechanical events.

Of course Roger Penrose is convinced consciousness depends on quantum mechanical (and maybe even quantum gravitational) phenomena. But then again, his argument rests on his purported proof that strong AI (the proposition that the computational capacity of the human mind is equivalent to that of a general purpose Turing machine) is false. His argument actually proves that strong AI and mathematical Platonism are incompatible positions, and thus only convinces mathematical Platonists that strong AI is false.


3 posted on 10/08/2011 11:52:05 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Reeses
the cat theory is bullsh!t... it is either alive or dead the observer simply doesn't know which till they open the box

same/same if you are in a coma, wake up in a dark room and don't know if it's day or night... it is what it is, whether you know it or not

4 posted on 10/08/2011 12:08:39 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Reeses
Some people ascribe to the (St.) Pauli Exclusion Principle:


5 posted on 10/08/2011 12:08:58 PM PDT by mikrofon ("Accept No Other")
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To: Reeses

Here’s a great excuse for why the Leftists are so whacked out!


6 posted on 10/08/2011 12:11:16 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: The_Reader_David
The evidence is collecting that our brains are much more than chemical/electronic computers. Our brains might make use of quantum entanglement and be influenced by subatomic interactions outside the knowable universe. It's useful to be reminded the mystery of life is still very much a mystery.

There was a recent experiment that teased subatomic particles out of empty space. Everywhere bits of matter constantly pop in and out of our universe. Where they go when they are not here is totally unknown, maybe unknowable. We do not have much figured out.

Our vanity in modern times is not justified. Vanity is an evil that leads to envy, hate, theft, murder, war, and voting Democrat. Humility is a virtue and should be cultivated. Magazine articles like this are useful reminders.

7 posted on 10/08/2011 12:44:51 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses

Yes, the influence is actually coming from the other deminsion where angels and demons influence the minds of people. If we could suddenly see the spirit world which exits all around us, we would be in shock!


8 posted on 10/08/2011 12:50:36 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Chode
the cat theory is bullsh!t... it is either alive or dead the observer simply doesn't know which till they open the box

Expansion on Schrödinger's cat: inside the box, if a quantum event occurs, it breaks a vial of cyanide which would kill the cat. If the scientist observer opens the box in a sealed room, there's enough cyanide to kill him too.

Question: is the initial scientist observer simultaneously dead and alive until an observer outside the room sees him? Is EVERYTHING in a dual quantum state from the viewpoint of whatever observer has not seen the event yet?

9 posted on 10/08/2011 1:00:28 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625
thank you...
10 posted on 10/08/2011 1:12:43 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Your right the cat theory is BS. But I have wondered a few times about each human being...we are made up of billions of life forms, both inside and outside our bodies...Microscopic but alive...when we die, a whole universe dies with us....any comments????


11 posted on 10/08/2011 3:18:28 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

...so...like...our entire universe could be a tiny atom in a giant’s finger nail...that means my finger nail could contain...


12 posted on 10/08/2011 3:33:07 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: goat granny
i never thought of it that way, but yes a small universe does die with each us... but i believe we go on to a better place
13 posted on 10/08/2011 4:00:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

We are not the body’s we reside in, but hopefully there are better places we go to....:O)


14 posted on 10/08/2011 4:13:02 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
Amen...
15 posted on 10/08/2011 4:33:06 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mikrofon
Speaking of St.Pauli, you *ASKED* for this one:

"We don't serve your kind here, get OUT!" the bartender snarled.

A faster-than-light neutrino walks into a bar...

*I* saw her first!

Cheers!

16 posted on 10/08/2011 8:10:48 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Chode
Here's the REAL kicker, and NOBODY has been able to answer it yet.

Did Schrödinger ever have to change his kitty litter?

Cheers!

17 posted on 10/08/2011 8:12:27 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: The_Reader_David
I haven't yet taken the time to read Penrose, though I ought to.

Can you give me a link to a proof of your final sentence, about mathematical Platonists being convinced that strong AI is false?

Cheers!

18 posted on 10/08/2011 8:16:26 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

If he observed it, he did.


19 posted on 10/08/2011 8:26:38 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


20 posted on 10/08/2011 8:32:26 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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