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Spain: bullfighter survives terrifying face goring
MSNBC ^ | 10/8/11 | Harold Heckle

Posted on 10/08/2011 5:35:28 PM PDT by Krankor

I always appreciate a story where an individual who enjoys hunting animals simply for sport or who torments animals for pleasure- get his comeuppance. Good for the bull.

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KEYWORDS: animalworship; bullfight; hitler; homosexuality; paganism; spain
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A Spanish bullfighter is likely to suffer facial paralysis and lose the sight in one eye after a terrifying goring, the hospital treating him said Saturday.
1 posted on 10/08/2011 5:35:31 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Krankor

Good for the bull!

a total crazy “festival”...sounds more like something the Muzzies would enjoy...er, they would probably do it with humans.

PS. I am not a Vegan and enjoy a good steak.


2 posted on 10/08/2011 5:38:30 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Krankor

Yikes!


3 posted on 10/08/2011 5:38:36 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Krankor

Bullfighting is part of Spanish culture. You are cultureless to enjoy the injury of a matador...or cowboy...or zoo keeper.


4 posted on 10/08/2011 5:39:18 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Sounds like you and Michael Vick are kindred spirits.


5 posted on 10/08/2011 5:43:03 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Krankor
I always appreciate a story where an individual who enjoys hunting animals simply for sport or who torments animals for pleasure- get his comeuppance. Good for the bull. Was this comment in the article or was it yours? I didn't see it in article.
6 posted on 10/08/2011 5:43:42 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Krankor

Can’t say I feel sorry for him.


7 posted on 10/08/2011 5:44:28 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: ColdOne

It’s mine.


8 posted on 10/08/2011 5:44:51 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Krankor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snbiFLRLx-M

4:38. It happens fast. At least I think this is the incident?


9 posted on 10/08/2011 5:47:47 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Krankor

Sometimes you get the bull, sometime the bull gets you.

Can’t exactly work up any sentimentality towards the matador, he knew the risks and still chose to still inflict brutal injuries on the bull for sport.

I suspect karma was involved.


10 posted on 10/08/2011 5:48:00 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Monterrosa-24
Bullfighting is part of Spanish culture.

And beheading is part of the muzzie culture.

What's your point again?

And BYW, I am Spanish.

11 posted on 10/08/2011 5:48:00 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: TWohlford

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URspx8_SkDE

:27, a different angle than the first video.


12 posted on 10/08/2011 5:49:41 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Monterrosa-24

Have you ever seen a bullfight? The bull enters the ring....then a picador ( horseman ) comes out with a long pointed pike. He continually pokes the poor animal causing massive bleeding......then a bandoleer enters with barbed sticks which he then puts into the back of the bull....6 times!
The heroic matador enters to continue the torture.....this is sport?


13 posted on 10/08/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Duffboy
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To: TWohlford

http://www.eitb.com/en/news/ has the pic.

Don’t click here if you don’t like seeing gore. Not safe for work or weak stomachs. You’ve been warned.


14 posted on 10/08/2011 5:52:45 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Actually the matador inflicts no brutal injuries on the bull. That is left to the Picadors. They stab the bull in the neck so he has very little lifting power of his head and can usually only hook left and right. The matador merely uses the cape until he is ready to kill the bull using only a sword. It takes great courage to be a Matador. BTW, to the idiot talking about people who hunt for sport. Most hunters hunt for the meat and not for the sport. Hunting is a proud tradition handed down to us by our forefathers. What is the difference if someone kills their own meat of if they have some butcher kill the animal for them?

The difference is the hunter isn't a coward and kills his own meat. He doesn't hide behind a butcher and then tries to claim the high ground.

15 posted on 10/08/2011 5:54:52 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Paging Michael Vick. C'mon bigshot, try swinging this one against the wall to bash its brains out. Show us how tough you really are.
16 posted on 10/08/2011 5:55:35 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
a total crazy “festival”...sounds more like something the Muzzies would enjoy...er, they would probably do it with humans.

I've only been once, in Madrid. I didn't know what I would think. But the whole thing is awesome.

I doubt that there are many Muslim matadors.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 10/08/2011 5:55:46 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: TWohlford

The matador is a craven coward. I’m only sorry he lost one eye.


18 posted on 10/08/2011 5:56:18 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Krankor

I do so abhor the sport of bullfighting! :-(

I despise animal cruelty in all its forms...


19 posted on 10/08/2011 5:58:59 PM PDT by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: calex59

That matador is a craven coward. I suggest you go kill a puppy- it takes about the same level of skill.


20 posted on 10/08/2011 5:59:28 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: TWohlford
That was bad but not as bad as seeing a member of a Mexican cartel cut 2 men's heads off. That was posted on FR a few days ago.
21 posted on 10/08/2011 5:59:58 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: TWohlford
That's nothing. Here's a really horrifying Face Goring:


22 posted on 10/08/2011 6:04:07 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Krankor

That sounds brutal!


23 posted on 10/08/2011 6:04:15 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Let Go and Let God - He IS In Control)
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To: Krankor

The matador is a craven coward. I’m only sorry he lost one eye

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Would you have preferred he be completely run through with a horn? Sounds to me as if you delight in seeing humans get their comeuppance [as you see fit]and don’t bemoan their pain, yet you moan and gnash your teeth over the bull’s plight.

Your attitude places you on a level plain with those who enjoy the bull’s suffering. I love animals but I love people more. Period.


24 posted on 10/08/2011 6:04:23 PM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
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To: Krankor

As the saying goes You mess with the Bull...you get the horns!


25 posted on 10/08/2011 6:05:44 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Krankor
I suggest you go kill a puppy- it takes about the same level of skill.

Really? Have you ever been around a bull?

Most farm animals you can take casually except two, the goose and the bull. Both will attack. Both can leave you with broken bones. But bulls kill. They ain't puppies.

Unless you refer to rabid wolverines on angel dust as puppies.

26 posted on 10/08/2011 6:06:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: calex59

Matador, picador, it’s still pointless brutality.

Any hunter worthy of the name tries for a quick, clean kill instead of prolonging the creatures agony simply to play to a crowd of blood thirsty animals.

El matador earned every moment of pain the bull was able to inflict and then some.


27 posted on 10/08/2011 6:07:36 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: WePledge

Let me see if I got this straight. The matador takes a dumb animal, torments and tortures it. And I’m the bad guy because I’m glad the scumbag who does this gets his just deserts? Go kill a puppy. I bet you’d love it.


28 posted on 10/08/2011 6:08:46 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Krankor

Punchline from one of my favorite jokes:

“Sometimes, Senor, the bull does not lose.”


29 posted on 10/08/2011 6:21:56 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: TWohlford

No slo-mo replay with John Madden and his commentary and electronic marker!


30 posted on 10/08/2011 6:33:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Let me tell you this, my friend. If you’re a farmer, and one of your bulls or cows or horses or enraged chickens attacks you, then more power to you. Fight back with a knife, gun, machete or nuclear device. By the same token, if you enjoy tormenting or torturing an animal before you kill it then....well...you can go to hell— without an eye, I hope.


31 posted on 10/08/2011 6:34:09 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Yup. you said it well.


32 posted on 10/08/2011 6:41:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

He was not the matador, he was a banderillero - the man who plants the “banderillas” - the barbs in the bulls shoulders. One of several specialists in the Spanish bullfight.


33 posted on 10/08/2011 6:51:35 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Krankor

I can guarantee you my compassion levels are much higher than yours. If you’d bothered to read my post instead of lashing out in defense of your ludicrous opinions and assumptions, you’d have seen I don’t condone the torture of animals or humans. The fact that I believe humans are more important than animals is religious based so I won’t even try to argue the fact with you. If you have to save a child or a dog which will you choose?


34 posted on 10/08/2011 6:55:52 PM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
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To: Krankor
Any animal I have killed has been dispatched as quickly and as humanly as possible. I see no reason for an animal to suffer and I don't understand the so called blood sports.

However your statement that it takes the same level of skill to kill a bull as a puppy is simply not accurate.

Bulls are not easy to put down, just a fact. They were the defenders of the herd against bears, wolves, big cats and so forth so they had to be tough. They haven't gone that soft over the centuries.

35 posted on 10/08/2011 6:57:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Krankor

It actually takes immense skill and training to do what these guys do.

They spend their youth practicing the skills required, not only to do their part, but to do it with style and grace. The Spanish bullfight critics are brutal.


36 posted on 10/08/2011 6:58:29 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Krankor

The Spanish bull running and slaying are something I do not understand. Whatever floats their boat, I guess.

Perhaps those bulls are tormented, I really don’t know.

I kind of doubt it. Though I have known some mexican nationals that believe that animals are for amusement. Sick what they do in mexico.

The U.S. probably has the best record of actuall abuse. Something worth researching.

Wanna make a difference? Move to Iran and open a dog shelter. No joke!

The Angus bull is gentle and doglike. Though there are some cows in the herd with the bloodline of Santa Gertrudis. They are dangerous with calf. The Angus are freaking smart. They sell well. They calve well. They are hard to handle sometimes.

I hunt wild deer for meat, btw. Wild pigs too, oinky! Its bow season here in TX. Kill and Grill! Can I cook y’all a rabbit or something?

The wild things taste better!

Krankor, go have yourself an historical day! God Love It!Bless its Heart!

God Bless!

hunterdude


37 posted on 10/08/2011 7:04:38 PM PDT by waterhill (KAP( kill all pigs, feral pigs, that is....))
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To: Krankor

Not a matador. The matador generally just kills the bull.

The bull is put through a three-stage ritual, involving a play of capes combined with, first, lances, followed by the banderillas, and finally the sword.

The first two stages are actually necessary, for many often very subtle reasons, to make the final stage reasonably safe (relatively speaking, this is an extemely dangerous profession) and certain.


38 posted on 10/08/2011 7:09:27 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Krankor

These are not ordinary bulls.

They are bred specially for the bullring. You could say they are the pitbulls (yes, that amuses me too !) of the bovine race.


40 posted on 10/08/2011 7:23:10 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Great Hemingway’s ghost!


41 posted on 10/08/2011 7:25:50 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: EinNYC

I am warming myself comfortably in the toasty heat of the hellfire you have wished upon me ! And mine. And the entire civilization from which me and mine are descended.

Salud !


42 posted on 10/08/2011 7:28:03 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: EinNYC; Krankor

I suggest peppercured venison backstrap... you will give up potatos. Keep it raw, dog.

Some of the best is right before it turns.... yeah...


43 posted on 10/08/2011 7:28:46 PM PDT by waterhill (KAP( kill all pigs, feral pigs, that is....))
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To: Krankor

“That matador is a craven coward. I suggest you go kill a puppy- it takes about the same level of skill.”

Cultural illiteracy. Read and learn my friend. It may not be pretty, but it’s how they like to do it. They don’t care what you think.


44 posted on 10/08/2011 7:29:48 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Sounds to me that you’re not quite an “ex” hippie.


45 posted on 10/08/2011 7:51:13 PM PDT by NakedRampage (Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
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To: EinNYC

Your post makes you seem foolish. Bodies made in Gods’ image are not worthless, even if their treatment of animals does not meet your standards.


46 posted on 10/08/2011 7:51:17 PM PDT by Kaisersrsic
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To: WePledge

“Sounds to me as if you delight in seeing humans get their comeuppance [as you see fit]and don’t bemoan their pain, yet you moan and gnash your teeth over the bull’s plight.”

One HUGE difference. The matador has a choice, the bull doesn’t.


47 posted on 10/08/2011 7:52:56 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: Monterrosa-24
try again, Cowboys and Zoo Keepers don't torture and kill their the animals in their charge...
48 posted on 10/08/2011 7:53:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: EinNYC

Go sign up for PETA, little girl.


49 posted on 10/08/2011 7:55:00 PM PDT by NakedRampage (Fortis cadere, cedere non potest (A brave man may fall, but he cannot yield))
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To: EinNYC

Study the Spanish Civil War of 1936-39 to see how an otherwise educated people, previously defenders of Christendom against the Moorish hordes, could descend into utter barbarism. Photographic evidence horrifies to this day.

By the way, the Spanish bullfight is well attended by both sexes. And Hemingway, a sadistic man by any standard, was a huge aficionado of “la corrida”. Read his For Whom The Bell Tolls.


50 posted on 10/08/2011 7:55:48 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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