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Deep Reflections from a True Palinista (Vanity but Important)

Posted on 10/09/2011 8:50:20 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012

I had signed up on FR after my overnight subzero wait to meet Sarah for her booksigning (I still have 3 extra signed books). I did not view her possible candidacy as destiny or anything so dramatic, but I had sincerely hoped for it as Sarah is a Godly, wise and brave woman and seems to be so much the opposite of Obama. One of the things that truly impressed me was her advocacy for Israel. I wish Sarah and her family well.

The reason I had hoped for a Palin candidacy was that I had believed that she may be able to start to right the sinking ship that is America. But I fully accept that it will not be the case at least until 2016 (and very possibly never). And for those that likewise believed that Palin was meant to be our candidate, there was once a possibility that even Queen Esther would refuse to be the person that would be instrumental in rescuing Israel. Esther chose to participate, but her uncle Mordecai made it clear that if not Esther, then there would be someone else. My hope for a Palin candidacy was never about Sarah herself. It was because I believed she was someone who would courageously follow the truths of God as it relates to public life and policy. If she will not be a candidate, we must move on and accept that there are reasons for such outcomes.

One thing that is now readily apparent is the fallacy that some believed that Sarah would somehow be more effective at promoting conservative causes as a non-candidate. Sarah was very effective ONLY because of the possibility that she may become president. Without that possibility, she is not much different than someone like Condi Rice--at one time very relevant for America, and for now much less so. To see that Sarah was very instrumental in guiding the 2010 elections and thinking that she could wield such influence even after public knowledge that Sarah was not running -- well that's just very shortsighted.

It's not super important that we decide on a candidate right now. We knew Sarah well -- we may need to look wisely to see who is a genuine conservative that will win. It's important to me however, that we win in 2012 -- I'd even take a win with a less conservative candidate rather than have the alternative outcome.

This is a farewell to all those who have worked so hard for Sarah and America. Thanks Onyx, 2ndDiv, SE Ohio, Virginia Ridgerunner, and so many others. You guys were truly fantastic and tireless. Much admiration for your incredible and gargantuan effort that everyone here knows about. This is probably my last post regarding Sarah. May God forgive and bless America.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!; Miscellaneous; Religion; Society
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1 posted on 10/09/2011 8:50:23 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: SarahPalin2012

Sarah Palin is Fred 2.0


2 posted on 10/09/2011 8:53:01 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: SarahPalin2012

It ain’t over yet. The election is more than a year away, and in politics a lot of things can happen, sometimes very surprising things.


3 posted on 10/09/2011 8:55:07 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SarahPalin2012

Very sober and realistic of you. Cheerio!

Those followers of Palin should understand and react to reality accordingly. She is not a factor 2012. Thus, her endorsing anyone should not equate.

She is “something”.......sideline cheerleader......media advocate......prognosticator? I dunno.

But, the calendar moves along and you must make your choices as a result of that.


4 posted on 10/09/2011 8:57:39 PM PDT by JoenTX (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: SarahPalin2012

If she had announced earlier, it would be ok. People are upset with her now.


5 posted on 10/09/2011 8:58:26 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: SarahPalin2012

Sarah Palin has found herself in a position in which she wields power without having to suffer the barbs of public lawsuits.

I think she has done well and will continue to shape public debate.


6 posted on 10/09/2011 9:00:01 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Politics4US

The upset ones are those with PDS - not those who supported her.


7 posted on 10/09/2011 9:06:30 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SarahPalin2012

It’s funny to me, in that even though I very much wanted Palin to run, and was in thorough anticipation of it, it really didn’t phase me all that much that she declined. Some pangs of sadness and disappointment for a few minutes, but not much beyond that.

I think it’s because my support of her has never really been contingent on a run. It’s been a combination of her pitch-perfect (for me) positions and incredible grace under fire. Just looking at her speeches from this weekend, she still inspires me, far more than all these garden-variety politicians milling around wanting my vote. So I’m still supporting her as much as ever, with whatever direction she wishes to take. And from the sounds of it, she’s just going to re-direct her fight, to a more optimum battlefield. Really looking forward to seeing it unfold.


8 posted on 10/09/2011 9:06:31 PM PDT by greene66
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To: presently no screen name

She misled her supporters. I don’t have PDS. I supported her.


9 posted on 10/09/2011 9:13:27 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Politics4US; SarahPalin2012

Gov Palin and her children have been attacked for years
by Romney and his legion of backstabbers.

That continued to the very night she took herself out
... for her children who were so threatened.

How about people consider the threats and the implication
of choosing a GOP representative behind this.


10 posted on 10/09/2011 9:13:37 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: SarahPalin2012

Gov Palin has integrity - and she’s a proven Patriot when one looks at her accomplishments for the people of Alaska. When was the last time we saw a candidate like her? These current crop of presidential candidates wear MEDIOCRE labels.


11 posted on 10/09/2011 9:14:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SarahPalin2012
Sarah was very effective ONLY because of the possibility that she may become president

Not correct.

It was because she gave voice from the heart to those Americans who love God, work hard, play by the rules, do their best to raise their children properly and have watched the Ruling Class try to destroy the greatest nation on earth with the poison of secular progressivism and statism.

And anyway, we should never look to Sarah alone to right the ship. Pray and have faith that others will be raised up to this task as well.

“Believe in God, believe in yourself and believe in the greatest country in the world...”

12 posted on 10/09/2011 9:16:58 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (Cain/Gingrich 2012)
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To: SarahPalin2012

One thing that is now readily apparent is the fallacy that some believed that Sarah would somehow be more effective at promoting conservative causes as a non-candidate. Sarah was very effective ONLY because of the possibility that she may become president. Without that possibility, she is not much different than someone like Condi Rice—at one time very relevant for America, and for now much less so.
***That’s about how I see it. I’m disappointed in her. Also, I lost a ton of money supporting her on Intrade.

Oh well, maybe she’s just angling for that VP spot which is basically a sinecure and she can stay viable. If not, Perry/Cain 2012


13 posted on 10/09/2011 9:17:47 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Diogenesis

Who did Romney have attack her? I haven’t heard Romney attack her.


14 posted on 10/09/2011 9:17:52 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: SatinDoll
It ain’t over yet. The election is more than a year away, and in politics a lot of things can happen, sometimes very surprising things.

It's close to over for jumping in to run for President. Filing deadlines are fast on there way and some may have moved up because if the mess in FL moving their Primary. The FL deadline is Halloween and SC is Nov 1st.

15 posted on 10/09/2011 9:19:40 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SatinDoll

Give it up! It’s over!


16 posted on 10/09/2011 9:20:37 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SarahPalin2012
To see that Sarah was very instrumental in guiding the 2010 elections and thinking that she could wield such influence even after public knowledge that Sarah was not running -- well that's just very shortsighted.

Yep, since announcing that she's not running for the Presidency she's dropped out of the media totally.

Nobody, but nobody, writes, talks, or blogs about her, speculates on her endorsement, or anything.

It's like she never existed.

17 posted on 10/09/2011 9:23:15 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Politics4US
Really? You should get out more. ;-)


Romney for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



18 posted on 10/09/2011 9:25:06 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

It was liberals attacking Palin, and establishment Republicans on Fox and other media outlets.


19 posted on 10/09/2011 9:28:50 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Politics4US

She did not mislead - didn’t she always say she doesn’t need a title to make a difference? it was never about her but America! didn’t she say she didn’t know if she will run? More like you ignored what she had been saying and just kept believing she will run. You disappointed yourself. I supported her knowing she was the best of the best for America. But I always knew she had a tough decision and many things had to be weighed - along w/the fact we don’t know all that went on behind the scene and still don’t. Evil knows no bounds.

If she ran, she would win - no question about it. And our country would indeed make a comeback - but I’d hate for those with venom in their veins to benefit by her leading this country and they would. So now instead they will reap what they sowed, more than they sowed and later than they sowed. They deserve every rotten thing that comes their way. They are no different than the scum, Joe McGinniss.

America can never reach to deserve Gov Palin - it lost it’s chance.


20 posted on 10/09/2011 9:32:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SarahPalin2012; onyx; 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t hear her say she wouldn’t accept a draft...


21 posted on 10/09/2011 9:33:40 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Politics4US

Don’t leave out the commie rat freepers who jumped on every Sarah thread to regurgitate their vile from the media pissant talking points.


22 posted on 10/09/2011 9:35:44 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

But she could have announced earlier. She went on a bus tour. There was “the Undefeated” release. Those were all indications that she was running.


23 posted on 10/09/2011 9:36:25 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Politics4US
It was Team Romney and his supporters.

It continued to this very week with Ailes' buddy
and subteam Wallace.

24 posted on 10/09/2011 9:36:42 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: SarahPalin2012

RE: Condoleeza Rice, she’s no longer SoS and not getting news coverage, but world leaders still do confer with her, as do major policy crafters. Just because she’s not in the news doesn’t mean she’s not plenty effective and influential. There comes a time to move away from the limelight, and that’s as it should be.


25 posted on 10/09/2011 9:37:16 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: Yehuda

There is some freeper who is trying to do just that. Unfortunately, don’t remember who.


26 posted on 10/09/2011 9:37:32 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Diogenesis

But most of the negative things people have heard about her, aren’t from Romney and his allies. They’re from liberals.


27 posted on 10/09/2011 9:38:23 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Politics4US
But she could have announced earlier. She went on a bus tour. There was “the Undefeated” release. Those were all indications that she was running.

That's how some, many here on FR, interpreted those things, many, however, did not see things that way, and were attacked for it.

28 posted on 10/09/2011 9:43:10 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Lazlo in PA

Hi Laz!

In isn’t over until the nominating convention drops the balloons.

The Republican Party is splintered and it is obvious that Romney is not enthusiastically embraced by the majority of the party - polls be damned!

We have an opportunity to capture a great many seats and the White House come Nov. 2011. Hopefully, we won’t snatch defeat from the jaws of success.


29 posted on 10/09/2011 9:44:25 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Politics4US

I just gave you a load of URLs.

Give us ONE showing Romney having defended
any GOP woman ever.
Romney would not let his own Lt. Gov on the stage with him.

Rove and Romney are misogynists.
But you have not seen that either, right?


30 posted on 10/09/2011 9:44:44 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

I agree about Karl Rove.


31 posted on 10/09/2011 9:46:40 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: SarahPalin2012
Sarah was very effective ONLY because of the possibility that she may become president. Without that possibility, she is not much different than someone like Condi Rice--at one time very relevant for America, and for now much less so.

I disagree. She's still drawing crowds, and still has a lot to say about the economy and energy issues, and the failures of the present occupant of the White House. And the fact that she's young yet, leaves the chance that she might run in the future, when her kids are grown. One never knows.

32 posted on 10/09/2011 9:48:21 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Politics4US
Those were all indications that she was running.

Totally agree. I believe she was definitely leaning towards running but she had to wait for something. When she made her decision, is when we heard about it. I believe, also, she would rather have things worked out differently. Two of her children did not want her to run - they were very concerned for her safety in those large crowds as she and her children got daily threats. We supported Sarah for a reason and she is a woman of honor - and there is nothing to suggest otherwise. Do you really think she knew all along she wasn't running and just told us now? For what reason?
33 posted on 10/09/2011 9:48:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Politics4US
She misled her supporters

No, she didn't. She said all along that she was considering a run, and that she would make her decision known, before it got too late in the campaign. Back in August, she said she'd announce yay or nay, in Sept. or Oct., but sometime in the Fall. That's exactly what she did.

34 posted on 10/09/2011 9:53:36 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Politics4US
aren’t from Romney and his allies. They’re from liberals.

What is snake in the grass Romney and his allies?
35 posted on 10/09/2011 9:54:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

If you bump into that thread / freeper, ping me?

TIA!


36 posted on 10/09/2011 9:54:54 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: SuziQ

Amazing, isn’t it. They ‘supposedly’ supporter her but don’t know anything she said. Sounds more like they enjoy their liberal whine.


37 posted on 10/09/2011 9:56:19 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SuziQ

And it looked like she was leaning towards running by what she was doing.


38 posted on 10/09/2011 9:57:49 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: SarahPalin2012
The reason I had hoped for a Palin candidacy was that I had believed that she may be able to start to right the sinking ship that is America. But I fully accept that it will not be the case at least until 2016 (and very possibly never).

Let me preface my reply by saying that even though it may sound like an endorsement of Perry, and as many on here know I am a Perry supporter, it is not. It is an endorsement of America. I know that right now that it may seem that America is on it's last legs, it certainly looks it when you consider the overwhelming support Obama received in '08 and because of Marxist junk that has been shoved on us in the past 3 years. Added to that the war we are now fighting with the unions and Marxist occupiers that are being given support by the Statist that are in control right now. But look to Texas.

In Texas the American spirit and "Americanism" that has defined us as the greatest Nation on Earth is still present in our people. We have shown in our state that the uniqueness and greatness of the American Spirit will overcome all obstacles and freedom will always prevail. I will concede the argument that Perry was handed "four aces" with Texas, I will also say that so has every governor in America because those four aces are Americans, American Democracy, American ingenuity, and Freedom. In Texas, we were smart enough not to throw in those Aces in hope of a better hand. By clinging to our Americanism Texas continues to prove that America is still the greatest Nation ever conceived in spite of Obama and the rest of the Statist attempts to destroy us. We lead the country in job creation, we continue to fill our couffers, and our housing market, import and export and energy production is as strong now as it was before the recession hit. So long as we continue to throw off the shackles of slavery that Statist always use to try to destroy freedom America will always be the "Shining City on the Hill".

So take heart, America will prevail, we will not be destroyed. The Left always believes they know of a better way but have only theory to prove it and a continuous track record of failure and misery. We, on the other hand, have 235 years of undeniable success to prove that Americanism is the only system that works. Look to Texas, the fire of freedom still burns and will spread back to re-ignite this gift of God, America, so long as we continue to fight.

We owe Sarah a debt of gratitude. During the time of Obama she armed us with truth and fortified us with courage in what could possibly have been our nation's darkest hours. She stepped-up to lead when everyone else cowered away and for that I will always be grateful. We owe her to pick up the flag and continue to charge into the battle.

39 posted on 10/09/2011 9:58:10 PM PDT by txroadkill (Antlers up! The Claw must be feared!)
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To: Yehuda

It was last week and I made a mental note of the freeper’s screen name and now I forget! Why I rely on my memory I don’t know why!


40 posted on 10/09/2011 9:58:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SatinDoll
In isn’t over until the nominating convention drops the balloons.

Geez. A floor fight at a Convention. We haven't had one of those since Reagan and Ford battled it out in '76. The problem is that fights erupt between people who have run in the Primary. Palin is out so getting her name in there and getting delegates who are chosen by the the GOP apparatus to drop their guy for a person who didn't run is absolutely impossible.

41 posted on 10/09/2011 9:59:47 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Politics4US

Why are you distinguishing between Romney and the liberals?


42 posted on 10/09/2011 10:01:06 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Politics4US
But she could have announced earlier. She went on a bus tour. There was “the Undefeated” release. Those were all indications that she was running.

Nope, her bus tour was about taking her kids on vacation, and happening to making the issues she espouses front and center at the same time. As for the movie, SHE didn't make it. It was done by one of her fans.

Many of us HOPED she'd run, but she never made any promises.

43 posted on 10/09/2011 10:03:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: presently no screen name

I posted a thread yesterday by that name, but have no skill or resources to organize such an effort.

If that’s what you remember the idea is certainly open for anyone to run with...

If someone has already started one, then not sure either sorry.


44 posted on 10/09/2011 10:03:56 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Santorum: Plan B to a certain Grizzly.)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Because, I don’t blame Romney and his supporters for all this. Romney didn’t go after McCain much in the primary.


45 posted on 10/09/2011 10:04:21 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: SuziQ

Her bus tour wasn’t about taking her kids on vacation. She was speaking to the media during the tour, and she didn’t have to use that bus if she was taking her kids on vacation. She promoted “the Defeated.”


46 posted on 10/09/2011 10:06:36 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: SarahPalin2012

Actually have much more respect for Palin as a person now that she declined. The Presidency and DC would have ruined her as an individual. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all one needs to verify that is to look at where Obama is now just 3 years after taking office.


47 posted on 10/09/2011 10:07:00 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Don’t think it was yesterday and now I’m not sure if it wasn’t a post in the middle of a thread. I was in the ‘never happen’ mode so I didn’t respond.


48 posted on 10/09/2011 10:09:11 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Politics4US
And it looked like she was leaning towards running by what she was doing.

It isn't Sarah's fault that you interpreted it as definite that she was running. She might have been "leaning", but she stated plainly that she'd announce her decision in the Fall.

49 posted on 10/09/2011 10:11:33 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

She probably knew she wasn’t running.


50 posted on 10/09/2011 10:16:44 PM PDT by Politics4US
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