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Giant Kraken Lair Discovered
Geological Society of America ^ | October 10, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 10/10/2011 6:55:25 AM PDT by decimon

Boulder, CO, USA - Long before whales, the oceans of Earth were roamed by a very different kind of air-breathing leviathan. Snaggle-toothed ichthyosaurs larger than school buses swam at the top of the Triassic Period ocean food chain, or so it seemed before Mount Holyoke College paleontologist Mark McMenamin took a look at some of their remains in Nevada. Now he thinks there was an even larger and more cunning sea monster that preyed on ichthyosaurs: a kraken of such mythological proportions it would have sent Captain Nemo running for dry land. McMenamin will be presenting the results of his work on Monday, 10 October at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America in Minneapolis.

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“It became very clear that something very odd was going on there,” said McMenamin. “It was a very odd configuration of bones.”

First of all, the different degrees of etching on the bones suggested that the shonisaurs were not all killed and buried at the same time. It also looked like the bones had been purposefully rearranged. That it got him thinking about a particular modern predator that is known for just this sort of intelligent manipulation of bones.

“Modern octopus will do this,” McMenamin said. What if there was an ancient, very large sort of octopus, like the kraken of mythology. “I think that these things were captured by the kraken and taken to the midden and the cephalopod would take them apart.”

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(Excerpt) Read more at geosociety.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: calamari; cephalopod; cryptobiology; cryptozoology; dinosaurs; giantsquid; godsgravesglyphs; ichthyosaurs; kraken; nevada; paleontology; shonisaurs; triassic
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1 posted on 10/10/2011 6:55:25 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Fathom this ping.


2 posted on 10/10/2011 6:56:10 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
kraken Pictures, Images and Photos
3 posted on 10/10/2011 7:00:21 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: decimon

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn" - "In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming."

4 posted on 10/10/2011 7:03:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: decimon

Yoose guys is kraken me up!


5 posted on 10/10/2011 7:04:17 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: decimon

Do a search for “shark vs octopus,” as mentioned in the article.

It’s pretty impressive to watch these boneless creatures take down a monster of the deeps!


6 posted on 10/10/2011 7:06:43 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Is that from Robert E. Howard?


7 posted on 10/10/2011 7:06:58 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Shouldn’t we put “evil lair” into “quotation marks”?


8 posted on 10/10/2011 7:08:16 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

H.P. Lovecraft (friend of Robert E. Howard)


9 posted on 10/10/2011 7:09:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: ConservativeDude

Nope. H. P. Lovecraft


10 posted on 10/10/2011 7:11:44 AM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: decimon

Aw, come on! 10 posts and nobody’s yelled “Release the Kraken?!”


11 posted on 10/10/2011 7:15:09 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: rarestia

Sharks are cartilaginous fishes—which ‘boneless’ creature did you mean?


12 posted on 10/10/2011 7:16:37 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Someone said there are hundreds of large octopus on the floor of Puget Sound.


13 posted on 10/10/2011 7:17:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: rarestia

That Debbie Gibson is still a hottie. But man that is a bad movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axPItX6liRM

Oh, you probably meant this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA8zQw6gDNI


14 posted on 10/10/2011 7:18:09 AM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Octopi are cephalopods, which are boneless aside from their beaks.

The article discusses this as well. I wasn’t referring to the shark, in this case.


15 posted on 10/10/2011 7:21:19 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ConservativeDude
Is that from Robert E. Howard?

H. P. Lovecraft, The Call of Cthulhu

16 posted on 10/10/2011 7:22:15 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Snickering Hound

Revive those old sea tales.


17 posted on 10/10/2011 7:23:11 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Betis70

LOL! Didn’t Debbie pose in Playboy back in the early 2000 timeframe? I think I was in college at the time, and I remember my dorm mates scrambling to my room to see her in all of her naked glory.


18 posted on 10/10/2011 7:25:29 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Ah.

Thanks....(and thanks for noting that he was Howard’s friend...I don’t feel stupid for getting that wrong!)


19 posted on 10/10/2011 7:28:20 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: rarestia
Do a search for “shark vs octopus,” as mentioned in the article.

Shot of my favorite scene from "Mega Shark vs Giant Octopus"

20 posted on 10/10/2011 7:32:51 AM PDT by frithguild (We admitted we were powerless over government - that out lives had become unmanageable)
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To: rarestia
Do a search for “shark vs octopus,” as mentioned in the article.

It’s pretty impressive to watch these boneless creatures take down a monster of the deeps!

Shark v. Octopus

21 posted on 10/10/2011 7:34:45 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
Article makes no sense. As prey species evolve and grow larger, predators will also evolve9 grow larger) to be able to hunt them, and/or evolve new strategies, such as hunting in packs.

The ichtyosaurs are NOT a prey species..they are predators. In nature, predators will only prey on each other when there is competition for a food source and/or territory. They avoid attacking each other because even the winner can suffer a disabling injury..and a disable predator is soon to be a DEAD predator..

22 posted on 10/10/2011 7:38:08 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: ken5050

Tell that to the giant squid and sperm whales.


23 posted on 10/10/2011 7:41:35 AM PDT by null and void (Day 992 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: decimon
Fathom this ping

Indeed. This thread will be a league of it's own. Meantime; altogether weird... ;-)

24 posted on 10/10/2011 7:50:30 AM PDT by cricket (Let Freedom Ring. . .and Thank You, Steve Jobs...)
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To: null and void

Marine life is somewhat different than land animals. That’s because there is no large amount of “grass” or green plants under water to support lots of life. Squid and octopi eat hugh amounts of food...their life span is very compressed. They reach maturity, reproduce, and die, often in les than two years. Thus they need lots of fuel for growth. Their prey is often much smaller than their own size...therefore they eat almost continuously...thus one could view herds of small fish almost as grazing pasture for large prey species. A lion, by comparison, would not waste the energy to continuously kill very small mammals..unless thee was no choice. Rather, the pride kills a large animal.then each lion may gorge themselves...eat 25% of their body weight, then literally lay there unable to move for several days..until they do it again. Its the MOST efficient system.because the lion expends tremendous energy in each kill attempt..and risks injury each time.


25 posted on 10/10/2011 7:52:31 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: null and void
Uhhh, heh heh heh uhhh heh. He said sperm...


26 posted on 10/10/2011 8:15:46 AM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: FromTheSidelines

Come again?


27 posted on 10/10/2011 8:23:37 AM PDT by null and void (Day 992 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: null and void
Why thank you, I do believe I will...


28 posted on 10/10/2011 8:34:19 AM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: decimon

I thought government leaders have always had to provide their addresses. My mail has been getting to Nancy Pelosi just fine, and now you say you just found her house? Bah...


29 posted on 10/10/2011 8:45:52 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: raven92876

ping


30 posted on 10/10/2011 9:37:13 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: decimon

31 posted on 10/10/2011 10:39:54 AM PDT by Prospero
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To: decimon; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks decimon.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


32 posted on 10/10/2011 3:42:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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...'Uniquely, octopuses have more than half their nerves in their arms and have even been shown to partially think with their arms..."

source

33 posted on 10/10/2011 4:11:04 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: decimon

I wish I could have gotten out of work to attend this conference today.


34 posted on 10/10/2011 4:11:05 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: BuckeyeTexan; SunkenCiv



35 posted on 10/10/2011 5:02:09 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: decimon


36 posted on 10/10/2011 5:48:47 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (V'al kulam eloha selichot S'lach lanu m'chal lanu kaper lanu)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Aim for the eyes, maties!


37 posted on 10/10/2011 5:55:04 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: TheOldLady

;’)


38 posted on 10/10/2011 6:51:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ClearCase_guy

LOvecraft was a MASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!


39 posted on 10/10/2011 7:37:01 PM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

We wanted you to have the honors. ;-)


40 posted on 10/10/2011 8:11:57 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: decimon

Leviathan rises and a billion calamari appetizers scream out in vengeance.


41 posted on 10/10/2011 8:19:44 PM PDT by texanred
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To: TheOldLady
The cute, it BURNS!

I miss having kittens. Not enough to get a third cat but I do miss them.

42 posted on 10/10/2011 8:24:11 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: texanred

Courtesy PTerry.... ;o)


43 posted on 10/10/2011 11:12:59 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ("And I'm actually happy to be, for us to be the moat with alligators party." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: TheOldLady; ClearCase_guy; ZULU



"That is not dead which can eternal lie.
And with strange aeons even death may die"

(Just because I see it as my role in life to spread the sunshine!)


44 posted on 10/11/2011 12:02:13 AM PDT by shibumi (Oh baby, Lilly Munster. Ain't got nothing on you.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

We haven’t had kittens for 30 years. Our first two were, but after that, we always adopted strays.

But I love mooning over the kittens at the shelters and at Pet Smart.

It’s too late now anyway. I can no longer promise a kitten “forever.”


45 posted on 10/11/2011 5:32:25 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: shibumi

Very cheery day brightener, Sensei! Thanks.


46 posted on 10/11/2011 5:45:46 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: shibumi

Thanks for that link. AWESOME!!!


47 posted on 10/11/2011 6:21:22 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: rarestia

Yes she did!


48 posted on 10/12/2011 4:00:51 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: decimon

probably obvious, but worth noting that assuming the predator was invertebrate, there will never be any fossils - unless there are teeth (?)


49 posted on 10/12/2011 7:15:35 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: decimon

btw, worth looking at the pic of the vertebra fossils. it helps put in perspective how unnatural their positioning is.

http://www.geosociety.org/graphics/media/1165-GeogyphU-600.jpg


50 posted on 10/12/2011 7:17:01 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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