Skip to comments.If You Vote Republican You Are Voting Against Yourself
Posted on 10/11/2011 11:22:36 PM PDT by GunPkrBkr
They made billions .. bankrupted the system .. the government bails them out and they pay themselves a big bonus with the money. Then they get a 2nd round of money at "zero" interest rate and what do they do? Invest in T-bills and the stock market. No loans for small business.
If you vote republican you are voting for the top 1%. and voting against yourself. Ask your self are you in the top 1%? or are you a part of the 99%. Yes you may be against abortion, gun control and you go to church and pray to god. I respect your view points but what matters most is your wallet and your survival. The Republican party is great at manipulating the facts and dividing us. The Democratic Party has no balls to stand up to them and is also influenced by lobbyist but at least they stand up for you.
Republicans want to repeal Medicare... have fun trying to buy medical insurance when you turn 65. You think its expensive now? LOL Just wait and see. Go ahead vote Republican and bend over.. its going to hurt.
I am 100% for capitalism.. and happy for anyone who knows how to make a honest dollar. I do not believe in redistribution of wealth. But People and corporations who make multi million dollars certainly can afford to give back the BUSH TAX CUTS and pay another 3%. Hedge funds Managers only pay 15% tax on their on some of their earnings. Many of them earn 10 million- 100 million a year. A self employed single person earning between $40,000 and $100,000 living in the City of Philadelphia has to pay 25% to Federal government 13% to Social security 3% to Pennsylvania 7% to the City 38% total. Are you kidding me? Warren Buffet only pays 15% tax on his dividends... no wonder he says his secretary pays more tax then him. Today we hear republican politicians say we most cut back on entitlements Remember the word entitlement means: An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation. If you pay into social security you should be entitled to collect what you deserve. Over the last 3 years senior citizens have not had one penny increase in their social security benefits. Are you kidding me? No wonder this economy is about to crash. Corporations earn more money because they are getting their help for less. Employees are being forced to do 2 jobs for the same pay and no increase in pay while cutting back on their benefits. If you pay into social security you should be entitled to collect what you deserve.
This movement is born out of frustration over the political system that has ruined this great country of ours. Obama is a big disappointment... he promised change but we got more of the same. The same cronies that were in power under Bush are still in power today. What do we have to look forward to in the next Election? NO CHOICE FOR REAL CHANGE
What a load of crap. The premise is that we must vote rat? Entitlements are OK?
Oh yeah! Okay. LOL! Don’t quit your day job as an Occuzombie. I don’t think the standup comedian thing is going to work out for you, Skippy.
Bye bye now.
Only for Obama - seeing as he is already sticking it up the collective a** of the American public. He is the only one in the "position" to bend over and take it.
So...What was the meaning of this movement, again ?
Wow, what an utterly pointless rant. The Republicans are evil and want to take away our benefits, you say? The Democrats are useless and Obama is a big disappointment, you say? Oh Lawdie, Lawdie! Whatever shall Ah do? I know- I’ll go to Wall Street/ Boston Common/ Hartford and hang around with some dirty hippies and call for the end of capitalism and the US banking system. There- that’ll fix things.
I could have sworn that this was some sort of “non-partisan” movement.
I take issue (especially) with the one claim that Philly residents pay 3% to the city. When I worked there, it was only us suckers who commuted there to work who paid this welfare tax.
The Wall Street guys they are so mad at support Democrats, not Republicans. How is it the Republicans’ fault that the Wall Street fat cats got bonuses after taking TARP money? The legislation that allowed THAT was written by Sen. Chris Dodd, D-CT.
Yet what have the DemocRATS gotten us?!?
So? What is your opinion on what you posted?
sniff; sniff. IBTZ?
You need the ZOT.
Obama has been feeding corporations and banksters like a mad man since he stepped into office. Everyone has their paws in the treasury with Obama which is why social security is in dire straights.
Check out this one!
Not for long I hope. IBTZ.
Ignore..all is well.
? IBTZ? zot? “check out this one”?
I’m somewhat new here, but I am catching on to what you are thinking.
I assure you I am with you guys and gals 110%
I am not part of them. I was just browsing their website. You can check out any other posts I have made here since I joined. I despise the 99%ers and what they are doing.
Sorry. Just got done reading your posting history. This is just a poor argument to make. Sorry for the graphic. It is fun though and at least I had a chance to post it today.
Obama and the Democrats are the ones who stole $500 billion from Medicare.
Don’t panic. All is well. Next time put a Barf Alert on stuff like this before posting. It will save the confusion.
Alright, sorry for the confusion. Back to your posts men!
Awww. No zot.
Seems to me, for the past 40+ years both parties have served themselves, not the people!
It has been: “A government for the party, of the party, and by the party.”
No worries, everybody gets hazed on their first one. Everyone. :)
Welcome and enjoy the fireworks.
What can’t somebody be an independent thinker? Why must one follow along party lines to a tee? I agree with part of that commentary. I can find fault with those on the far right as well as those on the left. I don’t believe in subsidizing lazy people or illegal immigrants but I don’t think rich people should get away with financial murder either. Something wrong with that??? I’m getting a little sick of people not respecting others simply because they don’t think exactly like them. (Not speaking to anyone in particular just the mean spirited ones you know who you are)
New posters should comment on what they posted. Established posters have a history. I hope this helps. Thanks for answering.
I understand. It’s how you keep the riff-raff out.
This whole "Occupy" thing is a Fellini film gone bad.
“get away with financial murder...”
I think Palin had it right calling it “Crony Capitalism”. And as long as we put the blame where it belongs - on the government.
I did some work at a guy’s new property. New guy lured by AIG to the area. HUGE nice mansion on prime waterfront, with a mortgage payment less than my 1200sf house! Lots of deals went down. I’m not jealous of rich folks. But I was sure p.o.ed when I know it is my money funding it all. Bailouts to AIG and the banks, etc.
And I think that is part of the plan for these bailouts - to get conservatives angry at the bankers, Wall Street, etc. I had to remember to direct my anger at the government.
Good ZOT pictures are never wasted..LOL
Try not to post again will you, at least wait until after your brain transplant.
It is really easy to see right through you left wing ding bats when you try to push your flawed thinking. None of us are either in the fake 99% or fake 1%. We are in the all to real 53% of the people who actually pay the taxes in this country. It is plain you are one of the 47%, standing with your pants on the ground and your hand out.
You mean I wasted that beautiful snarky comment I made? Next time use a Barf alert and in the first comment make sure you make your position clear. FReepers like nothing better than to rip a left wing troll to shreds:)
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.
Got bad news for you , bunkie. The 1% are NOT Republicans. Ever heard of George Soros? Warren Buffett? Bill Gates? Steve Jobs? You build an argument on falsehood when you assume that the rich are Republican. They are not.
(I sold my soul, joined the OWS site and posted the comments below in reply to the article. They are not directed at you, GunPkrBkr. Kelly4c, I agree that instead of reflexively banning ideas from FR we should instead muster a defense of our own. And stand ready to carry them to the enemy camp and to those there still subject to sway. I partially agreed with the author too, at least in principle if not on policy. )
As the most right wing person you never met, let me take this opportunity to agree with you on two points.
It IS wrong to tax some citizens at different rates than other citizens.
it IS wrong to allow politicians to pick the winners and losers in society.
Wrong economically. Wrong Constitutionally. And, most importantly, wrong morally.
Your indignation in this regard is valid and shared.
The ONLY truly fair system of taxation is one that is objective. A flat rate. Zero exemptions, deductions or credits. Preferably on consumption so that all those wannabe hippies squatting on Wall Street can keep eating free food, keep sleeping in the park and then put their SEIU paychecks into savings tax-free.
Our nation and its founding framework were objectively defined. But Obama stirs you pawns of revolt promising to be the superhero of subjectivity. The Chosen One who has the strength to break away the concrete blindfold for centuries covering the eyes of Justice.
That blindfold represents objective fairness. Think about it. Bring it up at the drum circle.
Progressive rates are the very definition of a corruption to objective fairness. Once they are employed, then our friend ‘fairness’ becomes entirely subjective. A nebulous determination born of the whims of slim majorities past and present. All at the expense of freedom for a minority. It is the politics of division which the Democrats have employed for years and Obama, the Great Divider, has faithfully and fervently pursued.
This should be something that Left and Right could agree upon. Both of us claim to hate the IRS. Let’s fire (most of) them and go with REAL objective fairness. Yes, I realize the Left will still want to redistribute wealth and to continue building dependency on government into our daily lives. And to the extent that they can muster a majority in Congress they will still be able to do so on the spending side. But the revenue side could be made entirely objective and thus immensely more simplified and less costly and burdensome to individuals and to businesses.
Another thing Left and Right should be able to agree on is that divisions of power are the best remedy for central corruption. There is a VERY good reason the Founders set us up in a federal system with extremely little power originally in the hands of the central government. Because the higher the level of government at which decisions are made, the less likely it is that the increasingly large number of people affected will all agree.
When you see vicious battles and reversals of laws with every change of Congress, then that is a sign that decisions should be pushed down to the state or lower levels. That is where the so-called 99% have a MUCH greater chance of personally affecting legislative outcomes. You would be hard pressed to get a meeting with your US Senator or even your Congressman. But your state rep would probably come wash your car if you gave him/her a call.
Anyway, before Captain Irony bursts onto the forum, you might consider fine tuning the argument in which you claim the wallet “matters most” as compared to human life, the Constitution and God. Maybe it’s just me, but whining about the money grubbing rich and about misguided priorities after such a statement introduces a confusing element of self hate that might sully your otherwise relatively pure message of class envy.
And a parting tip: Generally we right wingers put all three of your casually dismissed pillars of American tradition far above monetary gain. If you are honestly attempting an appeal to our sensibilities, it’s probably best not to wipe your feet on them first.
Your CHOICE FOR REAL CHANGE is right in front of you tonight. I’m not sure you get the Bloomberg channel there in the park, but if so you had on parade - at tonight’s Republican debate - several ideas EXTREMELY different from those of the current regime. And from the last Republican administration.
Repenting Recommitting Republican
Amen brother.... Add 95% of Hollywood to that list too.
“Yes you may be against abortion, gun control and you go to church and you pray to god”
Sorry, pal, I tuned out at the “you pray to god” remark. Little too snarky about the Divine for my taste.
Why don’t you throw in “bitter clingers” while you’re at it?
You also lose your FR audience when you say people should vote based solely upon their class interests. That’s class warfare pure and simple. Social values (which govern views concerning abortion, gun control, and praying to GOD) don’t stand a chance with your construct of things.
Wall Street bankers (whatever that is) may make the big bucks but they don’t riot, threaten, and disrupt the lives of others in the name of the “people”.
They made billions .. bankrupted the system .. the government bails them out and they pay themselves a big bonus with the money. Then they get a 2nd round of money at “zero” interest rate and what do they do? Invest in T-bills and the stock market. No loans for small business.
Good point, except that most of this was done by a Democrat President and Congress.
This is exactly what my friend says. He lives across the street from me and effectively cancels out my vote for the R jersey. He lives his life, thinks and acts like a conservative. But because he is African-American he will never ever vote for anything but the guys wearing the D jersey. We laugh about it from time to time, but it's not very funny anymore.
Time to buy more ammo.
The Occubama Re-election campaign.
Pray for America
My response is ditto to everything here. They are very confused, miseducated, misinformed, and duped by Obamao and the left.
YOu forgot over or under medicated as the case may be.
I noticed you've already taken a bunch of flack for this, but the writer of this piece is so full of male bovine excrement, his / her eyes are brown with crap. This entire movement is about redistribution of wealth, just like 0 bummer and his administration is and is nothing short of class warfare.
The entitlement crap should be done away with, unless you pay taxes. There are too many in the wagon and not enough pulling. I've paid taxes since 1970, and don't expect to live on what I am getting back. I've saved as much as possible, and if anyone thinks they are entitled to that, come try to get it.