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Derivatives The 600 Trillion Time Bomb That's Set To Explode
MondayMorning.com ^ | Oct. 12, 2011 | Keith Fitz-Gerald

Posted on 10/12/2011 2:37:06 PM PDT by Stayfree

In 2009, five banks held 80% of derivatives in America. Now, just four banks hold a staggering 95.9% of U.S. derivatives, according to a recent report from the Office of the Currency Comptroller...

The world's gross domestic product (GDP) is only about $65 trillion, or roughly 10.83% of the worldwide value of the global derivatives market, according to The Economist.

(Excerpt) Read more at moneymorning.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: banks; derivatives
I have never followed this publication, but happened onto it while I was doing some legal research for our website and it sounded a little scary...
1 posted on 10/12/2011 2:37:13 PM PDT by Stayfree
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To: Stayfree
"To be fair, the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) estimated the net notional value of uncollateralized derivatives risks is between $2 trillion and $8 trillion, which is still a staggering amount of money and well beyond the billions being talked about in Europe." - from the article
2 posted on 10/12/2011 2:44:53 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Stayfree
Key paragraph:

The major banks know there is no way they can collateralize the potential daisy chain failure that Greece represents. So they're doing everything they can to stockpile cash and keep their trading under wraps and away from public scrutiny.

They've insured against a Greek default and now that that's coming to pass, they don't have the bucks to pay off the insurance.

3 posted on 10/12/2011 2:51:21 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Stayfree

This is utterly meaningless. Unless there is an alien race that we owe the money to, it’s meaningless. If it all defaults, then whatever the total amount of money that is actually available to redeem the insurance claims is distributed to everyone that has a claim, proportionately.


4 posted on 10/12/2011 2:53:40 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: Stayfree

This is utterly meaningless. Unless there is an alien race that we owe the money to, it’s meaningless. If it all defaults, then whatever the total amount of money that is actually available to redeem the insurance claims is distributed to everyone that has a claim, proportionately.


5 posted on 10/12/2011 2:53:59 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: Oatka

AIG on a transnational level


6 posted on 10/12/2011 2:54:55 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Stayfree
Notional value is just about practically meaningless.

It does not reflect the actual risk which, owing to leverage, is mere fraction of notional value.

7 posted on 10/12/2011 2:55:22 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: DannyTN

But what about the collateralized risks??? Does anybody really know what the collateral will be worth if stuff starts spiraling down??? Because think of houses here, and how stuff that was supposed to good collateral went to POOF!!!, like 50 cents on the dollar and stuff. Sooo, how many trillions can that be??? I read about this stuff on zerohedge.


8 posted on 10/12/2011 2:58:57 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Stayfree

Sounds like an improvement. Now when their dirty deeds catch up to them, only four banks will fail, and as long as we don’t waste more taxpayer money bailing them out, we can wash our hands of the mess relatively pain-free.


9 posted on 10/12/2011 3:00:26 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: atomicweeder

“This is utterly meaningless. Unless there is an alien race that we owe the money to, it’s meaningless. If it all defaults, then whatever the total amount of money that is actually available to redeem the insurance claims is distributed to everyone that has a claim, proportionately.”

The problem is that there is almost no chance failures will be symmetric.Many institutions will fail before they are able to cover their swaps.Bonus’ will be paid to the end. We will be left holding the bag.


10 posted on 10/12/2011 3:14:28 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: Stayfree
Contrary to several herein, I say this is the coming tool to transform the next major global financial downturn from a serious hardship to a collapse. Some people just can't see it coming. Further, I don't think it is an coincidence.

The govs. of the world, in cohorts with the factories which create _money_, out of-thin-air, have been playing borrowing more money than the world has long enough to create a bubble beyond managing. The derivative game was added on top of this already catastrophic mix, in order to multiply the hypothification level for those factories (banks). Not another coincidence. Pied Pipers are US, the good following the bad and the ugly eg. (blind).

11 posted on 10/12/2011 3:56:42 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Stayfree

Stuart Varney has had this guy on his show alot lately.


12 posted on 10/12/2011 4:21:23 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: Stayfree

When this money system goes down, this is how they’ll intro in the moneyless system with smart chips/cards. The people who want global control of the money system that’s easier to control. Because now you can’t have physical cash, it’s all electronic. Oops, there’s a computer problem, you can’t get to your credits. Perhaps if you vote the right way, we can get your bills paid again and clear up the problems.


13 posted on 10/12/2011 5:20:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Squeeky

Zerohedge is a chicken little sky is falling site.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 9:49:29 AM PDT by DannyTN
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