Skip to comments.Perfect fossil could be most complete dinosaur ever
Posted on 10/16/2011 7:07:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Dinosaur fossils don't come much more impressive than this. With 98 per cent of its skeleton preserved, this young predatory theropod from southern Germany may be the most complete dinosaur ever found. Oliver Rauhut, curator of the Bavarian State Collection for Palaeontology and Geology in Munich, announced the find yesterday.
Although Chinese bird and dinosaur fossils are famed for delicate details such as their feathers, they don't match this 72-centimetre-long theropod in terms of clarity and completeness of preservation.
The young dinosaur has been dated at 135 million years old, putting it in the early Cretaceous, but it has yet to be named and described formally. It will go on show to the public at the Munich Mineral show, which starts on 27 October.
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Wow. Looks like they used some kind of computer aided mill to clean this specimen up.
Clinton would date it.
Completely random....it was all a product of "evolution" by a force of....well......lots and lots of time....and.....somethingorother.
No "God" was involved in making that!
That fact that it cries out "Designed" is just delusion on the part of the "religious."
So the critter is about the size of a piece of typing paper with its tail hanging over. Big whoop!!
Yeh...kinda doesn’t look right...
Yes, all the life on earth has so much sameness to it. Some think that the random process would have some strangeness and extreme diffrentness in the designs but NO!
So if complex structures, by their very complexity, require a designer, tell me who designed the designer?
It is obvious that your question only applies to 'designers' that are constrained by the dimension of time. (i.e., 'natural designers' such as evolution, extraterrestrials, etc.) Further, you can only exclude an 'unconstrained designer' by assuming naturalism 'a priori'; but that is a philosophical choice, not a logical conclusion.
IOW... while you have designed your question to appear logical it is actually firmly rooted in fallacy.
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It’s done by hand, sometimes with a dremel tool type thing.
Sensational find in Bavaria For the first time a complete dinosaur skeleton discovered in Europe Namenloser Raubdinosaurier: 72 Zentimeter langes Jungtier Zur Großansicht DPA
Nameless predatory dinosaurs: 72 inches long juvenile
From the largest discovery in Germany since the Archaeopteryx is the speech: In Bavaria, paleontologists have discovered the best-preserved dinosaur skeleton in Europe - 98 percent of the bones are present. One trick ensures that it can not leave the country. Info
Kelheim / Munich - Europe's best preserved dinosaur, the fossil has been discovered in Bavaria. The still unnamed predatory dinosaur (theropod) was 98 percent complete, and thus also one of the world's best-preserved finds, Oliver Rauhut, said curator at the Bavarian State Collection for Palaeontology and Geology , in Munich on Wednesday. The roughly 72-centimeter-long cub was lying in Kelheim, Lower Bavaria.
As a scientific sensation, the fossil is also because young animals are found extremely rarely, and even skin and hair pieces are still preserved. Now it is presented to the public, on 27 October at the Munich Mineral Show. It will then be on display for four days.
Under the leadership of an international team Rauhut created a first report on the sensational discovery. "The 135 million year old fossil is of paramount scientific importance," said the dinosaur expert. Many fossils have been found so far in China. "From a distance, see the often very completely. On closer examination, one sees, however, that the bones in preserving them is so great."
The new find is true only in two dimensions, but the bones and many anatomical details are very well preserved. Compared with other fossils 98 percent completeness are extremely good. "The best preserved Tyrannosaurus skeletons, we have, so about 80 percent and that is really outstanding," said Rauhut.
Theropods, which include the famous Tyrannosaurus, are among the rarest of dinosaur finds. A large part of the identified species is known only from fragmentary remains, said the spokesman for the Mineral, Dan Ravasz.
The dinosaur was also a young one, you find only very rarely. "It is very difficult to know how old he was. A newly hatched Tyrannosaurus would have had about this size." He could also have been up to a year old. That it was a young animal, you look at the size of the skull, the proportions and the surface of the bone. Findings on young animals are particularly important for researchers to understand evolutionary mechanisms.
Even the hair findings are significant. Hair and fiber structures in dinosaurs have been around for years, the focus of many studies have since made them well during the first Archaeopteryx developed traditional springs. "In summary therefore say that this is probably the most significant new theropod fossil archosaurs on German soil since the discoveries of the ancient bird Archaeopteryx," said Rauhut.
The skeleton was found a year or two. For exact location and the owner, a German who wanted Ravasz any details. The fossil was registered as a German heritage. Although this reduces the financial value of drastically, and the dinosaurs may not leave the country. For this he is but the science in Germany and the public remain permanently. Presumably to the fossil, still get a scientific name must be later given as a loan to a museum.
Hey, I like that graphic clipping gizmo, I’ve often thought that would be an excellent feature to build into the HTML spec...
Whoops, never mind.
When will you humans figure out that size doesn’t matter?
The ex cathedra claim that a designer is required is also a priori, and by that standard has nothing to do with logic.
The Religion forum here on FR is the best place to have those kinds of discussions.
In before the Helen Thomas pics!
Darn you to heck!
My how the millennia have flown.
It’s Dino...Still got the newspaper under it chin where he dropped it...
Reverse the colors and it’s Barney!
Dear, Dirka, Dirka, and Dirka,
I'm changing my will.
I wish to be buried under the upper bottom of the Mississippi 50ft below.
Not the least bit of sense, but thanks for trying.
Um, it's "Thingy" not just thing. Show some respect.
So you defer to an unnamed other authority and have no answer. Thanks
I know a good name for it! Ida! No? Oh yeah, that’s been done, missing link, missing half, big money.
A Helen Thomas pic? Et tu, Civ?
BTW, that fossil was singing Sweet Adeline.
How can the subject of God as the creator be "ex cathedra" when God is expressed in the affirmative, but in your world view to consider His very work is to be dismissed as illogical?
You used 50 cent words to say this: 'I don't even want to consider God, so I won't even consider it - and if you even bring it up, I'll attack the messenger as being unscientific and illogical.'
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of people who suppress the truth by their unrighteousness, because what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them."
Romans 1: 18-19
You do not make much sense. Spell check doesn't even like your words. Nice picture though.
Said the guy who uses logical fallacy as argument...
Outside space and time the designer has no need of having been designed.
Unfortunately, you have violated your own standard. You have assumed a designer for that post 'ex cathedra' and 'a priori' and therefore without logic. On what basis did you do that and why would it not also apply to your claim above?
I suggest "Buster."
The bone beneath the jaw appears to be a hyoid apparatus. The one encircled beneath the pelvis is the ischium.
“I have a bone to pick with youse two guyz...WTH is that?”
Nylon Chew Toy.
I don’t know what all the arguing is about. That is just a beautiful dinosaur. I’ve never seen anything like it. Look at that spinal column! Breathtaking! It is much easier to relate to than the giant ones you see in the big museums.
I think I’d call him Baby.