Posted on 10/19/2011 6:53:00 AM PDT by truthkeeper
The high-powered New York lawyer hired by an anonymous donor to represent the parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin gave an interview this morning, alongside the family's private investigator, to tout the couple's innocence in spite of recent claims that the mother may have been blackout drunk on the night of the 10-month-old's disappearance.
Federal aviation officials have also stepped into the search, by temporarily restricting flights that go over a wooded area near the Missouri couple's home, where authorities are now searching for the fourth time in hope of clues.
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Exactly...I don't know how Tacopina even had the nerve to spout such nonsense.
Me neither. Didn’t he represent OJ at one time? Or maybe just advocated for him on the legal talking head shows...
I was referring to the forest, not the house. Would a warrant be needed to search the woods, at all, irrespective of ownership?
Oh, got it. I think it depends on whether the woods are part of the property the Irwins are renting. Beyond that, you raise an interesting question about whether you need a warrant to search undeveloped land, regardless of who owns it. I don’t know the answer.
...not sure.
If she had indulged in a few classes of wine no one would think a thing about it - but from something she said in the interview it appears she gets very drunk a lot.
And as I discussed with another freeper - most folks outside of big cities have drivers licenses. We have little to no public transportation and grocery stores/shopping/schools aren't always in walking distance - I don't know any adults who do not have a license. Does anyone know why this woman does not have a license to drive?
I noticed!!! That interview has me convinced that the mother is probably a sociopath and guilty. If that were ME and my baby was still missing I would be a wreck and swearing to quit drinking and whatever else it might take, ANYTHING, forever, if I could just get my baby back. I’d be desperate and ready to trade God my own life for my baby...this woman is NOT behaving like a normal mother! I also thought that the fathers behavior spoke volumes. I think he knows she did it but is lying to himself.
I don’t know quite what to make of this incredibly weird set of circumstances. All I know is that if my baby were missing, I’d be talking to the police every day—if not several times a day.
Well, except you might want to talk to the cops if your baby is missing and you know that you are innocent... that is if you actually want them to find your baby.
“why take the phones when they can be tracked if used?”
Why report your car stolen if it was seen fleeing the scene of a DUI crash?
Thermal imaging can be used to find burials as well as living creatures. There is sometimes a different signature for recent burials than the surrounding area.
My take—Mom wasn’t used to dad being gone in the evenings. Had a number of glasses of wine (as many as 10 by her count). Puts baby in for her bath, passes out drunk while baby is still in bath. Dad comes home. Here’s where we have some of the truth in their story. All the lights in the house were on and the front door is unlocked. Right, because mom never shut the house down, she was passed out. Dad finds baby in the bath, drowned, wakes mom up, both panic. Dad decides to help cover up the death, because they have the other two kids, and he needs her to take care of them. If she goes to jail, who takes care of the other kids? So, they hide the body and the phones, make up a story, and call the cops.
Now, I’m not completely sold on the drowning, but I’d lay good money on something that qualifies as negligent homicide, happening to that baby while mom was passed out drunk.
Yes, something like that could have happened. Very plausible scenario.
I think you could be onto something. Not necessarily a drowning, but some negligence that caused the child’s death is not out of the question.
Thermal imaging and GPR (ground penetrating radar) are two different things.
—Well, except you might want to talk to the cops if your baby is missing and you know that you are innocent... that is if you actually want them to find your baby.—
I’ll have to google that and see how effective they are when not focussed on the parents. My gut tells me they are pretty worthless, other than at finding a body, at which point it’s pretty academic.
You would be surprised at how many mothers in this age range (20-30) think it’s OK to drug their babies so they can have what they call “Mommy time” or “grown-up time” in the evening. I used to follow a grandniece in Texas on Twitter, and her evening routine was to put the kids to bed early (7 p.m.) , open a bottle of wine, and tweet all evening. One evening she fell down the stairs while trying to get a reluctant 4-yr. old to go to bed. She broke her own arm in three places.
After that, an intervention took place, and I think (I hope) the drinking and drugging stopped. This girl was a successful insurance executive by day. Besides the wine, she admitted to taking Ambien and being on Effexor.
Re: her girls—she took them to the doctor at least once a month for “colds” and got prescriptions for meds that would help their congestion, etc. Plus she would add doses of Sudafed.
All so she could have her “Mommy Time.”
Maybe Baby Lisa was drugged in a dose her little body couldn’t take, so that Mommy Deb and her girlfriend could sit on the stoop and consume a gallon of boxed wine.
“Mommy Time” ...indeed!
Obviously, but what I said is about thermal imaging, not ground penetrating radar.
“Only the surface temperature is actually detected, though thermal imaging may be used to detect burials to a certain extent. For example, a decomposing body buried at about 1m is a few degrees warmer than surrounding soil, but greater depths may make detection more difficult.”
from http://forensicsciencecentral.co.uk/archaeology.shtml
Regardless of how effective they usually are, they’re not going to be any more effective if you withhold pertinent information from the investigators.
Please keep me on the baby Lisa ping list! Thanks
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