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Baby Lisa's Parents Are Avoiding Our Questions, Say Police As FAA Halts Flights Near Search
UK Mail Online ^ | October 18, 2011 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 10/19/2011 6:53:00 AM PDT by truthkeeper

The high-powered New York lawyer hired by an anonymous donor to represent the parents of missing baby Lisa Irwin gave an interview this morning, alongside the family's private investigator, to tout the couple's innocence in spite of recent claims that the mother may have been blackout drunk on the night of the 10-month-old's disappearance.

Federal aviation officials have also stepped into the search, by temporarily restricting flights that go over a wooded area near the Missouri couple's home, where authorities are now searching for the fourth time in hope of clues.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Boogieman

She was drinking with her next door neighbor who has a 4 year old. The 4 year old and the two boys were in the house watching a video. Don’t know what time the neighbor left (supposedly around 10:30) and don’t know when the boys went to bed. Father’s story has changed, though. First he said he came home, checked on boys in their room, then checked on Lisa, who was gone, then woke up Deborah. Then he said he got home, went and woke Deborah (who was hard to wake), asked about lights being on and window. She jumped out of bed and they checked and saw Lisa gone. She says her son was in her bed with her. Someone (or both) is/are lying. Stranger abductions of babies from the home are very rare.


81 posted on 10/20/2011 5:29:25 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: cuban leaf

I’m just saying that if you did watch the ID Channel (Investigation Discovery Channel) you would be cautious because you would see there are a LOT of evil people out there.

However, if you don’t want to be so concerned you absolutely don’t want to watch it.


82 posted on 10/20/2011 7:30:26 AM PDT by Miss Conservative (Those who yell tolerance the loudest, have the least for my views.)
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To: cuban leaf

Can’t watch the video at work right now, but I’ll check it out later.

“The first thing the cops are gonna pursue is that you did it and are blaming it on an unknown attacker.”

Sure, but they’ll be checking you out whether you talk or not. If you talk, they might actually catch the real perp, if you don’t, chances are he is in the wind, and you are left holding the bag, at least that’s what I figure.


83 posted on 10/20/2011 7:31:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Morgana

The Ramseys were a very exceptional case, because many of the details gave the police every reason to suspect the Ramseys, despite the fact that they were innocent. Sure, it can happen, but formulating some rule of behavior based on such an improbable circumstance is silly.


84 posted on 10/20/2011 7:46:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yeah, it just doesn’t smell right to me. The cell phone story was fishy enough, now with the changing stories, if I were the investigator, I’d be focusing on those two pretty hard.


85 posted on 10/20/2011 7:50:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

—If you talk, they might actually catch the real perp...—

I agree, assuming an hour has not gone by. Obviously every situation is different, but after watching that video I am VERY cautious about talking to the police about pretty much anything. To be fair, the video reinforced a few views I already had, but added a lot more and really put teeth to them.

Bottom line is that the police are like a gun - very powerful and it’s very easy to accidentally shoot yourself or a loved one if you are not careful with them.


86 posted on 10/20/2011 8:01:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Vicki

From my understanding, the most dangerous person in a child’s life can often be the unwed mother’s boyfriend.

He has two older children. He didn’t marry their mother.

He’s not married to Deborah, yet. And being “engaged” doesn’t count. For all practical purposes anyone can get married within a few weeks time, if they feel compelled to do so. A wedding is not necessary, when there are three children that need the stability of a marriage as a foundation, especially because they were all born out of wedlock.

I’d look at the father of the child, who is also the boyfriend, in this case.


87 posted on 10/20/2011 10:47:41 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Fire_on_High

Right you are! I think I meant Benadryl, which many young parents who travel by air give their kids before a flight.

I don’t use any pharmaceutical substances, so I really don’t know one from the other.


88 posted on 10/20/2011 12:09:40 PM PDT by Palladin (Newt/Cain)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Hah! You are probably as old as my granddaughters. ;)


89 posted on 10/20/2011 12:11:15 PM PDT by Palladin (Newt/Cain)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

The father in this case looks to me like one unfortunate stiff. The expression on his face says: “What the hell did I do moving this girl in with me? Everyone told me what she was. I am really screwed now.”

For the record, he was at work at the Starbucks all night. There is video establishing this fact.

Of the two older children, one boy is his, one boy is hers. He is the third or fourth “partner” this girl has had since she was 17.


90 posted on 10/20/2011 12:15:29 PM PDT by Palladin (Newt/Cain)
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To: Palladin

For the record... we don’t know when the little girl disappeared or when she died. He could have still been the part of any crime that took place within the home, up to and including committing murder. And even though it’s not a firm part of “the record” either, I’m pretty certain she’s dead.

I don’t have much pity for him. He impregnated her and stayed with her, even brought his son into the home.

And I’m sorry about the confusion regarding the parentage of the older two children. I had read differently and went with that information. If people would just marry, have children, remain married and not move on to a new roommate that they shack up with and start a new family with, it would be much easier to keep track of.

There I go... wanting people to behave in a civilized fashion! I’ll never learn.


91 posted on 10/20/2011 12:41:08 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Palladin

I don’t know - are your grandchildren old? I am...;^)


92 posted on 10/20/2011 2:13:51 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: sodpoodle; dfc1; miss marmelstein; Sarah Barracuda; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; ANKE69; indylindy; ...
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/wild-animals-ohio-widow-survivors-back-14785422?tab=9482931&section=1206833

Here is a weird ABC story on possible sightings of a baby in a diaper in the area on the night in question.

93 posted on 10/21/2011 8:00:42 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: truthkeeper
Interesting but it doesn't seem very likely someone would be walking that far, carrying a kidnapped child does it? Sightings three or four miles apart but 4 hours apart?

I'm still thinking something happened that night while the Mother was drunk - she called the husband in a panic or her brother and someone helped her concoct the kidnapping story

94 posted on 10/21/2011 8:34:37 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: utahagen

I agree...Tacopina will take any murders case. Too bad about Van derdhoot as he went on to kill again


95 posted on 10/21/2011 8:36:52 AM PDT by paul revere is riding (I'm really a Paula....."knock and the door will be opened...Jesus Christ")
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To: truthkeeper

Imagine that. A rich person with connections to the family comes out of the wood work.


96 posted on 10/21/2011 8:40:02 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: truthkeeper

New York lawyer Joe Tacopina greeted a People magazine reporter enthusiastically after a news conference Monday. Apparently, they had worked together after Natalee Holloway disappeared in 2005 in Aruba.

Lisa’s parents stood sullen and silent behind Tacopina and Stanton as they held court for a slew of media. It was Tacopino’s introductory performance in Kansas City.

Reporters, photographers, videographers and probably a few producers for the national media crammed onto the lawn of the Kansas City home where the family appeared. The mail carrier had trouble finding a place to park his delivery truck.

Neighbors, probably as disgusted as they were curious and worried, drove slowly by.

This isn’t how Baby Lisa’s story will be resolved.

Tacopina insisted that he came on board after deep analysis and many questions for Baby Lisa’s family. Only when he was convinced of the parent’s innocence, he said, did he begin traveling.

I think it’s the exact opposite.

http://tinyurl.com/3tfwfls


97 posted on 10/21/2011 8:43:20 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: freekitty

Baby Lisa Irwin Missing: Mother of Child Now Being Described as ‘Mistrustful’

The mother of 10-month-old Lisa Irwin is now being described as “mistrustful,” as investigators focus their attention on the little girl’s Kansas City, Mo., home.

“She was my friend at one time and I loved to be around her, but when I [saw] the other side of her and got to know the true Debbie, I couldn’t even believe I trusted her with anything,” said Shirley Pfaff of her former best friend Deborah Bradley, according to The Huffington Post.

Pfaff explained that she was surprised by little Lisa’s disappearance, but not by the inconsistent statements provided by Bradley.

“I am not shocked that her story has changed like the wind,” she said. “That’s typical Debbie.”

The former best friend who now lives in Erie, Pa., said she and Bradley met while they were military wives at Ft. Bragg, N.C., and lived across the street from each other. Bradley’s and Pfaff’s children played together and the women soon became close friends.

“When the story broke, it was a normal morning in my house,” Pfaff added. “I got up, put on a pot of coffee and turned on ‘Good Morning America’ like usual and I ... heard ‘Deborah Bradley.’ I immediately thought, ‘This can’t be the Debbie I know.’ It just seemed unreal until I walked back into the living room after hearing her voice. I just about collapsed. It just made me sick because I just wouldn’t put this girl Debbie past anything crazy.”

http://global.christianpost.com/news/baby-lisa-irwin-missing-mother-of-child-now-being-described-as-mistrustful-58907/


98 posted on 10/21/2011 8:48:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: truthkeeper

Baby Lisa Irwin attorney to KC police: ‘Stop whining’

Read more: http://voices.kansascity.com/entries/baby-lisa-irwins-parents-kc-police-stop-whining/#ixzz1bQpQAkF6


99 posted on 10/21/2011 8:52:14 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I think you are correct - he’s looking for his Baez moment. The longer it takes to find the body of this baby the better her chances are of getting away with whatever happened. And admitting her drinking bing(s) is a way to get out to the public that she was unable to care for the kids but make it appear not to be important


100 posted on 10/21/2011 8:54:51 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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