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PC Question, Tell me this won't work
My imagination | 10-19-2011 | Red Badger

Posted on 10/19/2011 8:15:00 AM PDT by Red Badger

I have an older PC computer that is kinda slow. It has a SD Card reader, that functions like another drive.

Can I reconfigure the system so that Windows 'scratch pad' memory is on a 8 GB SD card in the slot so that it doesn't have to use the hard drive, and thus would be faster?

Thanks in advance for all your comments..........


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: computer; memory; pc; sdcard

1 posted on 10/19/2011 8:15:09 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

What Windows OS?

Someone claims can’t do it (swap file) on a memory card in XP @ http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/60103-45-swap-file-memory-card


2 posted on 10/19/2011 8:18:24 AM PDT by NeverEVERKerry (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Red Badger

I would get a fast card. One of my windows dell laptops asked me if I wanted to use the just inserted SD card as a memory booster or for storage.


3 posted on 10/19/2011 8:18:42 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: listenhillary

No sd card on the market is as fast as a hard drive. Most of them are painfully slow.


4 posted on 10/19/2011 8:20:07 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: NeverEVERKerry

XP.......


5 posted on 10/19/2011 8:20:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Red Badger

Is the “older computer” slow or is it accumulated scruff (ie adware or spyware) on the Windows OS?

If the latter, you can clean that up, or load a light version of Linux like Linux Mint. That makes a big difference.

I am running Linux Xubuntu on this machine (it is not slow) and could not be more please with it.


6 posted on 10/19/2011 8:20:47 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Red Badger

With Vista or Windows 7, you can allocate memory from removable storage. You need to make sure you’ve got a fast SD card, though. Even with 480 Mbps from USB2.0, you’ll see a significant bottleneck. Onboard memory runs and performs according to several factors on the mainboard.

You can try it, but you might see some performance hiccups.

I could also recommend that you try a flavor of Linux like Mint or Ubuntu. Both of them run exceptionally well off of USB thumb drives. I have a version of Mint that I put on a 1 GB thumb drive and use for troubleshooting dead PCs.


7 posted on 10/19/2011 8:22:01 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Red Badger
You don't indicate what operating system version you have, but since you have an SD card slot it's likely WinXP or later. Check here for information on handling memory in XP. When you refer to "'scratch pad' memory" I'm assuming you mean the cache that's written on your hard drive as your computer swaps programs (aka 'swap file').

Before you fool with this, you may want to look into other alternatives as far as reclaiming memory. One issue may be that your hard drive is loaded up with applications, leaving insufficient space for your dynamic cache file. Remove all absolutely unnecessary programs from you hard drive. The best way I've found to do this is with a program (free) called Revo Uninstaller that not only goes through the removal app that comes with the program but cleans your registry items as well. Also, be sure to clear your browser history, cookies, and unwanted files on a regular basis. If you have a lot of personal stuff stored on your hard drive, invest in a USB external drive (they're not expensive) and move what you don't use regularly over to it.

As to your initial question, it may be possible, but shouldn't be necessary with a little housekeeping.

8 posted on 10/19/2011 8:27:41 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Red Badger

You’d be better off increasing the amount of system RAM (if you can) than to use an external bus device.


9 posted on 10/19/2011 8:29:01 AM PDT by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: Red Badger

If it is so old that it has only USB 1.0 ports, it will still be slower than regular hard drives.

Someone tried your experiment with no luck @ http://forums.xsreviews.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5792

Probably ran into the same issue I was thinking ... no USB drivers loaded before XP wanted a swap file.


10 posted on 10/19/2011 8:30:04 AM PDT by NeverEVERKerry (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Red Badger
It depends on the OS version that you have. If the computer is "kinda old", probably not.

Microsoft introduced ReadyBoost in Windows Vista, to do exactly what you suggest. It automatically uses a solid state memory device as a cache.

The feature is also in Windows 7. I use it in a laptop that has the 32-bit version.

You need a fast SSD card or USB drive. And, it's strictly used for read caching. If you write data to the disk and it's cached, future reads will find it. But, if you remove the SSD device at any time, Windows simply switches back to the disk.

11 posted on 10/19/2011 8:30:43 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Texas Fossil

I have an older computer too, I got rid of MacCaffey and started using the Microsoft Security Essentials that came on my computer (which was also FREE). I cannot believe how much faster my computer is now!!!

I’ve had no security problems yet - but boy, I sure did with MacCaffey - got a bad thing on there that kept popping up porn sites on my desktop - all the while my MacCaffey scans were showing no problems!

My computer runs like it did when it was new now.


12 posted on 10/19/2011 8:43:31 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Red Badger

Buy a larger, faster hard drive and clone your current drive to it.


13 posted on 10/19/2011 8:46:20 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter Hobbit)
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To: Red Badger

If it gets a drive letter you could move your swap file over there. But why would you want to? It’ll be slower than a HDD location, with less room to expand if necessary.


14 posted on 10/19/2011 8:47:22 AM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Red Badger

are you logged in?


15 posted on 10/19/2011 8:48:25 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Red Badger

Dear Mods,

Could we have a computer help forum?
I hate to see these vanities when I check in for news and updates.

OP: No. If you feel your computer is slow, learn how to mange it, get a new one, or get a cheap Mac. Those are your only options. (its true).


16 posted on 10/19/2011 8:50:44 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
I hate to see these vanities when I check

We all have our little peeves, don't we? I have worked hard to exercise my right index finger so I can quickly scroll past the many, many threads which hold no interest for me.

Hope this helps.

17 posted on 10/19/2011 8:59:50 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: don-o
I have worked hard to exercise my right index finger

Desktop finger push-ups... WHEW! It tires me out just thinking about it!

; )

18 posted on 10/19/2011 9:07:08 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Download CCleaner and see what is starting up with your computer every time it boots up, it is also great at eliminating huge caches and repairing registry errors, and of course best of all, its free.
filehippo.com has a download for it


19 posted on 10/19/2011 9:16:44 AM PDT by thesaleboat
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To: Red Badger

No. card readers are invariably USB, even if wired internally. Get more RAM and get it over with. If your hard drive is ~40g/60g, upgrade to a newer disk... while the spin speed is the same, the write method has improved in the say... ~120g + drives, and you will notice a significant increase (10% or so), which will greatly improve swapfile access speeds...

If it has less than 1g of RAM, getting over the 1g mark will make it a whole new machine (you will be astounded), and getting anything more (up to 3g) will only make it mo’bedda... but XP NEEDS 1g of Ram to run properly IMHO.

Rclick My compter => Properties. On the resulting dialog, the amount of RAM will be listed near the bottom... The CPU is usually there too - might be nice to tell us those two things.


20 posted on 10/19/2011 9:17:47 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: don-o

I know. But when I have seen threads about a FReeper asking for help with Windows ME, and now THIS, it just makes me want to pull my brain out, have a look, and see if its been bruised or something. This is incomprehensible. I would love to help, because I can, but at some point I just must refuse.

As other helpful FRiends have said:

1) More RAM
2) New computer + more RAM
3) Superman bicycle repair won’t help you, nor does he want to.
4) Duesenberg


21 posted on 10/19/2011 10:13:19 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: alicewonders

Yep, I have cleaned up a lot of computers (old & new), and most of the time the problem is not a virus, trojan or root kit, but an adware infection.

One of the most common parasites is the “weatherbug”. Talk about a scam.

Of course there are all the games that have adware as part of the install too.


22 posted on 10/19/2011 10:41:47 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: roamer_1; don-o
Desktop finger push-ups... WHEW! It tires me out just thinking about it! ; )

To be honest, the finger push-ups (clicks) aren't too bad, but I really hate the reverse crunches my index finger has to do with the wheel!

(I did find sommat neat - if I 'click' the wheel, the cursor turns into a bomb-sight and I can fly all around the page looking for targets!)


23 posted on 10/19/2011 10:57:12 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Red Badger

It’s not possible using WindowsXP without creating a BartPE or other pre-install environment before each boot because you have to load the USB drivers before you load windows.
Alternatively, you can learn Windows scripting and create a boot snap-in script to create the cache on each boot.

Both are a PITA and not worth it because SD cards are painfully slow as cache drives.

My suggestion would be to buy a cheap WesternDigital Caviar Blue Drive and use the following free tool to clone your drive: http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119


24 posted on 10/19/2011 11:08:37 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Nonsense Unlimited
You’d be better off increasing the amount of system RAM (if you can) than to use an external bus device.

AMEN!
GtG

25 posted on 10/19/2011 11:14:09 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: brityank; don-o
To be honest, the finger push-ups (clicks) aren't too bad, but I really hate the reverse crunches my index finger has to do with the wheel!

HA!

But it just seems to be SO much work! : ((

(I did find sommat neat - if I 'click' the wheel, the cursor turns into a bomb-sight and I can fly all around the page looking for targets!)

Air Force surplus? (This is where you might reply, "Why yes, I am"):P

26 posted on 10/19/2011 4:55:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: brityank; don-o
To be honest, the finger push-ups (clicks) aren't too bad, but I really hate the reverse crunches my index finger has to do with the wheel!

HA!

But it just seems to be SO much work! : ((

(I did find sommat neat - if I 'click' the wheel, the cursor turns into a bomb-sight and I can fly all around the page looking for targets!)

Air Force surplus? (This is where you might reply, "Why yes, I am"):P

27 posted on 10/19/2011 4:55:49 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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