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Still Wondering If Liszt Was Any Good
NYT ^ | 10/21/2011 | Kenneth Hamilton

Posted on 10/21/2011 3:17:12 PM PDT by Borges

On Oct. 22, 1811, Franz Liszt was born in the Hungarian (now Austrian) village of Raiding. His bicentenary follows hard on the heels of Chopin’s, last year, and anticipates Wagner’s and Verdi’s, in 2013.

But whereas no one really doubts the greatness of Wagner or Verdi, and Chopin seems universally beloved, things are not so straightforward with Liszt. He was, to be sure, an unrivaled performer (“A god for pianists” in Berlioz’s words), a man of unusually catholic artistic interests and the 19th century’s nearest approach to a Hollywood superstar. But although he is surely significant enough to celebrate, the question whether his music is actually any good has never really gone away.

It probably never will. Liszt, like his music, was constructed of paradoxes, as he well knew. “Half Gypsy, half Franciscan monk,” he called himself; another contemporary called him “Mephistopheles disguised as a priest.” But if his life was to some extent a touring soap opera played out publicly on various European stages, what the more prudish Mendelssohn described as a “constant oscillation between scandal and apotheosis,” it was at least a drama with a sympathetic protagonist. And for all his worldly success, Liszt didn’t have a particularly easy ride.

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KEYWORDS: clasicalmusic; classicalmusic; franzliszt; liszt
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1 posted on 10/21/2011 3:17:16 PM PDT by Borges
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To: .30Carbine; 1cewolf; 1rudeboy; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 31R1O; ADemocratNoMore; afraidfortherepublic; ...

Classical Ping


2 posted on 10/21/2011 3:19:16 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

No question about. 2nd Hungarian Rhapsody.


3 posted on 10/21/2011 3:22:58 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Borges

Franz Liszt’s Liebestraum No.3 is my favorite classical piano tune. I like the version by Arthur Rubinstein.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 3:25:34 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Borges

So, they’re saying he’s not on the A-Liszt?


5 posted on 10/21/2011 3:26:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Borges

"Eh, what's up, Doc? Who...? Franz Liszt? Never heard of him... Wrong number."

6 posted on 10/21/2011 3:28:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AndyJackson

Take your pick;

The Cat Concerto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NXo7pr8iRM

Or

Bugs Bunny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYM84n-2Sas


7 posted on 10/21/2011 3:33:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Borges

As a pianist, I don’t think he has the raw genius of a Chopin or the power of Beethoven, but he has to rank high in the pantheon.


8 posted on 10/21/2011 3:36:53 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Borges

All of the Hungarian Rhapsodies are wonderful, IMHO. Even if Franz DID derive some of his melodies from existing Gypsy tunes (So did Brahms! LOL)
My favorite version of The Hungarian Rhapsody #2 is the Tome and Jerry Version, and also the Bugs Bunny version! };-)

Les Preludes is nice too, as well as Liebestraum #3.

I grew up with the orchestral version of Hungarian Rhapsody #2, but as a pianist, I now listen to them all for solo piano.


9 posted on 10/21/2011 3:47:46 PM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: Borges

Are you saying he wouldn’t be on your liszt?


10 posted on 10/21/2011 3:48:31 PM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Borges

Sorry I’m late, I’m bach from chopin at Frye’s for a better oven, but I boughton shoes, mann!


11 posted on 10/21/2011 3:49:50 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: left that other site

He didn’t hide the fact that he derived those melodies. It was considered an act of homage to that culture.


12 posted on 10/21/2011 3:50:40 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

That is true. He was very proud of his heritage. In fact, he rhapsodized over it! LOL!


13 posted on 10/21/2011 3:52:52 PM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: AndyJackson
absolutely...
14 posted on 10/21/2011 3:55:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Just happened to play Les Preludes in iTunes last night.

Of course that led to other other things.

Rick


15 posted on 10/21/2011 4:22:12 PM PDT by RickGee
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To: RickGee
another wonderful piece used in cinema... Flash Gordon theme also iirc
16 posted on 10/21/2011 4:28:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Borges

I’ll give him a liszten.


17 posted on 10/21/2011 4:29:41 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: Borges

A first rate second rate composer.


18 posted on 10/21/2011 4:35:46 PM PDT by oldsicilian
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To: AndyJackson
Trauervorspeil und Trauermarsch played by Lazar Berman in 1979 at Carnegie Hall was just awesome.

The Beethoven Symphony transcriptions are pretty amazing too. Katsaris plays on the recordings I have. Symphony No. 7 is my favorite.

ML/NJ

19 posted on 10/21/2011 4:46:09 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Borges; mickie
IMO, the NYT critique was rather unnecessarily negative.

I like it when my classical station regularly plays one or two piano or orchestral pieces by this wonderful composer.

My musical life without him would be quite listzless and lacking paprika.

Leni

20 posted on 10/21/2011 4:54:28 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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