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Up to 20 million tons of debris from Japanís tsunami moving toward Hawaii
YahooNews ^ | 24 October 2011 | Laura Rozen

Posted on 10/24/2011 12:59:09 PM PDT by LucyT

Some 5 to 20 million tons of debris--furniture, fishing boats, refrigerators--sucked into the Pacific Ocean in the wake of Japan's March 11 earthquake and tsunami are moving rapidly across the Pacific.

Researchers from the University of Hawaii tracking the wreckage estimate it could approach the U.S. West Coast in the next three years, the UK Daily Mail reports.

"We have a rough estimate of 5 to 20 million tons of debris coming from Japan,"

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: disease; fukushima; fukushimadebris; hawaii; toxic
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1 posted on 10/24/2011 12:59:11 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

“We have a rough estimate of 5 to 20 million tons of debris coming from Japan,”

Which is nothing compared to the millions of tons of debris shipped in from China every day.


2 posted on 10/24/2011 1:01:59 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; Plummz; ...
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3 posted on 10/24/2011 1:03:18 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

wow! What will they ever do with this? Won’t this wreck the Hawaiian beaches and tourist trade to boot?


4 posted on 10/24/2011 1:03:33 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: LucyT

hmm, will the debris hit Pearl Harbor on December 7, 2011?


5 posted on 10/24/2011 1:05:45 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Beowulf9

It will become a beachcombers’ paradise.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 1:06:17 PM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: LucyT

Garage Sales!!!


7 posted on 10/24/2011 1:07:01 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Beowulf9

“Won’t this wreck the Hawaiian beaches and tourist trade to boot?”

Pfffft, I could not care less. In fact, I may enjoy hearing some of the natives whine.

This, from a hated, hoale.


8 posted on 10/24/2011 1:07:35 PM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Huskrrrr

How will me know that it is debris from Japan and not another “occupy” movement?


9 posted on 10/24/2011 1:09:07 PM PDT by Glennb51
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To: LucyT

Not to worry...the Hawaii Department of Health have lots of experience dealing with garbage.

10 posted on 10/24/2011 1:10:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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11 posted on 10/24/2011 1:12:11 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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To: brownsfan

We Michiganders love wilderness loving visitors and their money. We’re always welcoming.


12 posted on 10/24/2011 1:12:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: LucyT

How radio active is this stuff? Didn’t see anything in the article about that possibility.


13 posted on 10/24/2011 1:14:38 PM PDT by IceAge
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To: LucyT

Lord. What could be done for this? Skimmers? Then what? Burn?


14 posted on 10/24/2011 1:17:02 PM PDT by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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To: nagdt

Send obama out to turn back the tide. Maybe it will take him with it.


15 posted on 10/24/2011 1:23:32 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: 353FMG

But how do you get a house of the beach?


16 posted on 10/24/2011 1:24:05 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: 353FMG

How do you get a house off the beach?


17 posted on 10/24/2011 1:26:16 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: cripplecreek

“We Michiganders love wilderness loving visitors and their money. We’re always welcoming.”

I know... I’ve been, and will be back. Well, to the north half. When you get to southeast Michigan, it’s not so nice.


18 posted on 10/24/2011 1:26:27 PM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: LucyT

Anyone got a large cargo ship with crane I can borrow for 3 weeks? Floating gold!


19 posted on 10/24/2011 1:27:11 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: LucyT

Actually, they say it’s all going to wash up in California, which for some reason I find amusing ...

See video of massive garbabe slick at sea ...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/20-million-tons-debris-japan-tsunami-moving-toward-143640503.html


20 posted on 10/24/2011 1:31:18 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: LucyT
and tsunami are moving rapidly across the Pacific.

Well, I guess that depends on what your definition of "rapidly" is:

it could approach the U.S. West Coast in the next three years

I think I could WALK that far in 3 years.

21 posted on 10/24/2011 1:32:18 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MeganC

Somebody should drop a line to the producers of “American Pickers.”


22 posted on 10/24/2011 1:32:44 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: brownsfan
Just about anyplace outside the cities is nice but here in the southeast there isn't a lot to do aside from hunting.

Hidden Lake Gardens is a good place to spend an afternoon spring through fall in southeast Mi near Tipton.

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23 posted on 10/24/2011 1:35:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: free_life
Anyone got a large cargo ship with crane I can borrow for 3 weeks? Floating gold!

I wouldn't want to open any of those refrigerators that have been floating for years.

24 posted on 10/24/2011 1:38:01 PM PDT by DejaJude (Lost tagline: if found, please ping me.)
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To: IceAge
How radio active is this stuff?

Since it wasn't mentioned, it's probably highly radioactive; otherwise they would be telling everyone not to worry.

25 posted on 10/24/2011 1:54:36 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Fred Nerks

Travis Magee, you out there? Fire up the boat. I’ll bet there’s a load of dolphin under all that debris!


26 posted on 10/24/2011 1:57:20 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: LucyT

Uhhh, cars and heavy sinking objects will scrape along the pacific floor and wash up in California...doesn’t seem real to me, perhaps sticks etc..small stuff I could see..may be wrong...


27 posted on 10/24/2011 2:03:49 PM PDT by aces
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To: Beowulf9

Looks to me like it won’t hit Hawaii , just pass by to the north en route to the US West Coast .


28 posted on 10/24/2011 2:13:36 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: DejaJude
I wouldn't want to open any of those refrigerators that have been floating for years.

No gross! But those boat hulls and the fishing equipment and floats etc, many would be salvageable and sellable. Maybe even a lot of the timbers and large wood pieces. My understand is Japan imports the most expensive wood as it is highly valued in Japan.

29 posted on 10/24/2011 2:19:46 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
How do you get a house off the beach?

Apparently you missed the miniscule mainland coverage of the tsunami damage in Hawaii. There were pics of a house in Kealakakua bay that was floating away. Water surges in, drains back, pulling house off the foundation.

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30 posted on 10/24/2011 2:40:37 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: free_life

Maybe we send out to sea those two guys on Cable TV who rummage through peoples’ junk, “Pickers” , I think they call themselves. You know, those guys from Iowa who get all hopped up when they spot rusted out bicycle frames sticking out of the ground.


31 posted on 10/24/2011 10:07:06 PM PDT by AlexisHeavyMetal1981 (? Got any old oil cans ?)
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To: AlexisHeavyMetal1981; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; ...

.

> Ping

. . . . Update:

Early computer models predicted that the debris would not hit the United States for two to three years. But a Russian training ship, the STS Pallada, following a map of the computer models, hit an extended field of debris in mid-Pacific, close to Midway Island, a U.S. territory about 1,700 miles from Hawaii.

The ship’s encounter with the 1,000-mile-long mass of tsunami debris came in September — 300 miles ahead of schedule, and nearly 2,000 miles from the site of the tsunami in Japan.

The ship’s crew found a battered, 20-foot fishing boat marked “Fukushima,” the same spot in Japan that was ground zero for the tsunami.

The Pallada’s crew sailed through the debris, surrounded by everything from appliances and televisions to furniture, all of it now headed straight for Hawaii.

The first of it is expected to hit Midway Atoll this winter, then Hawaii in early 2013, and the U.S. West Coast — mainly Washington and Oregon — in early 2014.

Experts now estimate that lighter objects will wash ashore Midway’s beaches this winter.

ABC News Radio contributed to this report.

http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2318920&spid=


32 posted on 10/25/2011 2:16:05 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

33 posted on 10/25/2011 2:36:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LucyT

Sounds like they are dumping the trash and blaming the tidal wave, floating appliances?
If it is, it is..

Still sounds like timber left over from the SF OWS burning of the buds..


34 posted on 10/25/2011 2:41:06 PM PDT by aces
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To: aces
Please excuse my ignorance, but what is "timber left over from the SF OWS burning of the buds." ?
35 posted on 10/25/2011 3:14:18 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

I am sorry, please excuse my verbage...sticks left over from their cleaned pot buds..


36 posted on 10/25/2011 3:29:13 PM PDT by aces
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To: Fred Nerks

Maybe its a shipment of Hope to the occupy wall street crowd..


37 posted on 10/25/2011 3:31:30 PM PDT by aces
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To: MestaMachine

LOL!!! Part the seas and collapse them on himself....


38 posted on 10/25/2011 3:34:17 PM PDT by aces
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To: aces
Here's a close-up - MIGHT MAKE YOU THINK

Cars, whole houses and even severed feet in shoes: The vast field of debris from Japan earthquake and tsunami that's floating towards U.S. West Coast

SOURCE LINK

39 posted on 10/25/2011 3:44:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Wow what do you know, I am thinking..looks bad..we’ll see..


40 posted on 10/25/2011 3:52:57 PM PDT by aces
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To: LucyT; free_life
The ship’s crew found a battered, 20-foot fishing boat marked “Fukushima,” the same spot in Japan that was ground zero for the tsunami.

Free, have you got a Geiger counter before you start to salvage this?

41 posted on 10/25/2011 3:53:10 PM PDT by DejaJude (Lost tagline: if found, please ping me.)
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To: Fred Nerks
How many jobs will this floating dump create in California?

...at taxpayer expense.

42 posted on 10/25/2011 4:00:05 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: Fred Nerks

From the link:

But even more grisly are the predictions of U.S. oceanographer Curtis Ebbesmeyer, who is expecting human feet, still in their shoes, to wash up on the West Coast within three years.

‘I’m expecting parts of houses, whole boats and feet in sneakers to wash up,’ Mr Ebbesmeyer, a Seattle oceanographer who has spent decades tracking flotsam, told MailOnline.

Several thousand bodies were washed out to sea following the disaster and while most of the limbs will come apart and break down in the water, feet encased in shoes will float, Mr Ebbesmeyer said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1374520/Japan-earthquake-tsunami-debris-floating-US-West-Coast.html#ixzz1bqLwbgvK


43 posted on 10/25/2011 5:48:30 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Fred Nerks

By year 2 or 3, much of that will have sunk to the bottom of the ocean. I question the map showing it will still be as large by year 7. Something else, how is it possible to gain debris? There wasn’t that much lost on day one of the tsunami but by the time it reaches CA, there’s enough debris to cover half the US - I don’t think so.


44 posted on 10/25/2011 6:11:52 PM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: bgill
I do believe that graphic seems to exaggerate - how-ever, something like 200,000 houses were swept out to sea, and if you add that to the numerous other sources of flotsam, the quantity must be considerable.


45 posted on 10/25/2011 6:29:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: LucyT

...and several thousand bodies...he’s right about the feet and sneakers, we have had exactly that float up onto our beaches; from the bodies of drowning victims.


46 posted on 10/25/2011 6:34:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

As others have said, the pickings might prove profitable.


47 posted on 10/25/2011 6:50:37 PM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: DejaJude

Tracked you down to wish you HAPPY 6th FReeper ANNIVERSARY;)

(and I forget where I left my car keys)!!!!!!!!!!!


48 posted on 10/26/2011 4:27:44 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature.)
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To: sodpoodle
Thanks sodpoodle. I'll ping you from the FReepathon thread in a bit. (and while your looking for your keys, keep an eye out for my tagline) :)
49 posted on 10/26/2011 7:41:13 AM PDT by DejaJude (Lost tagline: if found, please ping me.)
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To: LucyT

I received this email in response an email I sent alerting NOAA to some debris I found on a beach in Oregon recently that looks to be Japanese in origin.
-J.H


Thank you for contacting us and for your interest and vigilance for Japan tsunami marine debris. As you have probably seen, there is quite a bit of information out there regarding Japan tsunami marine debris, some of it is misleading or not explained properly. We have a web page up on our site with updated information on Japan tsunami marine debris. Any help you can provide in getting our web page and information out there would be greatly appreciated
http://marinedebris.noaa.gov/info/japanfaqs.html.

As you know, it is very difficult to discern debris from the Japan tsunami event. Movement of Japan tsunami marine debris across the North Pacific Ocean this quickly is unlikely, but not outside the realm of possibility. We are working with numerous modelers to figure this out, as well as other partners to see if we can source-identify the debris that has been reported. Our findings will be published on our website, listed above.

If you are interested (and walk your local beach with some frequency), the NOAA Marine Debris Program (MDP) has developed the attached Shoreline Survey Field Guide in order to evaluate and monitor the types and abundance of marine debris at a shoreline site. Effective monitoring of changes in environmental conditions, such as the abundance of marine debris, requires a good deal of forethought.

Monitoring projects should have clearly stated objectives and use agreed-upon methods and field measurements to allow for comparability of data with previous research and that conducted in other areas. Quality marine debris monitoring data can be used to assess spatial and temporal trends and measure the effectiveness of strategies to address the issue.

An electronic data sheet is provided to assist in your data analysis efforts. At this time the MDP does not have the capacity to regularly analyze monitoring data coming in from various groups. We are planning to conduct periodic calls for data; if you are interested in being included in data calls, please send an email to MD.monitoring@noaa.gov.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Best wishes for safe and informative shoreline surveys!

Neal Parry
NOAA Marine Debris


50 posted on 01/31/2012 4:59:54 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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