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And now, my time has come to ask the eternal question: Dish Network or Direct TV?
Self | 10/24/'11 | Zionist Conspirator

Posted on 10/24/2011 1:06:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

Most FReepers are not aware of this, but the past six or seven months have been full of disruptions: the biggest being our having to move from our home of 28 years to a new abode. And there is no cable out here (and analog aerials don't work any more).

So yes, I must now ask the question which other FReepers have asked on prior occasions: which is better, Dish Network or Direct TV?

I have long assumed that satellite is cheaper than cable. Well, it is cheaper, but not by nearly as much as I thought. Dish Network has the more inexpensive packages, but from what I see on their home page, some channels come only with the basic package; you move up to a more expensive package and you actually lose these channels. That seems like the exact opposite of the way things should be.

Now with Direct TV you don't give up any channels by moving up to a pricier package, but it is more expensive than Dish. And once the one year introductory price runs out, it's only about twenty dollars (if that much) less than I used to pay for cable.

Would FReepers who have experience with one or both of these two products please give me some advice? And I don't mean "TV will rot your brain and Obama uses TV signals to brainwash you subliminally." I know that already.

Are local network channels available with either product? If so, what is the difference in prices?

Thank you for whatever advice you are able to give me.


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1 posted on 10/24/2011 1:06:50 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: wideawake

I hope you don’t feel insulted if I direct a ping your way. You seem to be very well informed on almost every subject, so maybe you can give me some advice here?


2 posted on 10/24/2011 1:08:29 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

And why don’t analog aerials work anymore?

Just curious...

=8-)


3 posted on 10/24/2011 1:09:02 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
And why don’t analog aerials work anymore?

Because free TV ceased analog broadcasts over two years ago.

Besides . . . there's more cartoons on cable/satellite!

4 posted on 10/24/2011 1:12:11 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
And why don’t analog aerials work anymore?

Causin' the federales don't allow no broadcastin' 'cept digital no more.

5 posted on 10/24/2011 1:13:27 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

We have DirecTV with absolutely no complaints.

On 2 occasions I called to see if they were going to have a special on Showtime and both times I was given a 3 month trial for free.

They have great customer service and do have excellent specials especially if you can bundle telephone and internet.

My mother-in-law has Dish and she used to enjoy watching QVC to do some shopping and she doesn’t have it on Dish anymore. She wanted it and was told she would have to pay for it each month. We have so many more channels she does for about the same price.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 1:13:47 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I’ve had DirecTV (medium price package) for nearly a year and have been very happy with it. I understand that Dish was not providing some of the sports channels for a while - don’t know what the problem was.


7 posted on 10/24/2011 1:17:18 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

DirecTV has better Sports Packages, including 4 free in-car Channels for Nascar Sprint Cup races.


8 posted on 10/24/2011 1:17:34 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I have DirecTV and have been a customer of theirs since they were PrimeStar.

Apart from ever-increasing prices I have no complaints about DirecTV. I have only ever had one receiver fail since 1996 and it was replaced promptly.

However, DirecTV are apparently currently in some kind of dispute with the Fox parent company. According to ‘screen crawlers’ which ran on some stations over this past weekend, on November 1, 2011, we may lose Fox, FoxNews, Fox Sports, other Fox affiliates, Speed and several other channels.

I have received no official notice from DirecTV about this apparent dispute, but if they permanently drop the Speed Channel then I will be switching to something else in fairly short order. Televised Formula 1 car racing is the MAIN reason I even own a TV.

9 posted on 10/24/2011 1:18:27 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They probably both have advantages and disadvantages. We chose dish due to picking up local stations and hubby gets the HUNTING channel included in the basic plan.
I understand now that if I make any upgrades then I will have to pay extra for each “local” channel I now have included-WHAT A CROCK- anything to make money I guess.
I don’t watch much TV other than the British comedys for laughs on PBS. You may want to check into getting one of the new TV’s and work off of HD rabbit ears, that works great for me - I get local channels and PBS all FREE.


10 posted on 10/24/2011 1:19:10 PM PDT by conservativesister
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Digital broadcast uses analog carriers - you guys know that right?

If you went out and bought “HDTV” antennas - you got screwed.

Old “analog” antennas are “HDTV” antennas by default as-is.

=8-)


11 posted on 10/24/2011 1:19:10 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Dish : I don’t understand the losing channels thing ,, they all start with a base and build??? Dish has higher receiver fees which will really add up if you have 3 or more sets.. Dish has better porn ,,, Dish has worse customer service , local channels included

DTV : better sports (NFLpromo going on) , better receivers and lower receiver fees , I’m freepmailing you my account number so you can get $100 off ... local channels included

Antenna : FREE !! Your “analog” antenna works just fine ,, but you need TV’s with digital tuners. You will get the best HD from a good antenna , better than cable , better than satellite , they all compress the HD where with an antenna it’s 100%


12 posted on 10/24/2011 1:19:29 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I don't think there is much difference unless you're a sports fan. If you are, make sure the teams you want to watch are available on the service you choose.

Either one is more of a hassle than cable, but if cable isn't an option that doesn't matter.

By the time you get the same programming you had with cable, you'll be spending about the same price as cable. Getting the local channels used to be a problem in some areas, but I don't know if that's still true.

If you live in the snow belt, make sure you can reach the dish to brush off the snow. Otherwise, you might not get reception until spring!

What are you doing for Internet access? I hope you have DSL, because satellite-based Internet is terrible. If my only choice was satellite-based Internet or dialup, I would probably pick dialup.

Good luck!

13 posted on 10/24/2011 1:20:03 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Direct TV all the way. No one I know who has Dish is happy with their service, they keep cutting channels and raising prices.


14 posted on 10/24/2011 1:21:19 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Zionist Conspirator

For what it is worth - my brother has had both. He says Direct TV.


15 posted on 10/24/2011 1:21:43 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Helen Thomas - the older, smarter, prettier version of HRC.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I’ve used both, and much prefer DirecTV. I think their guide is much better, and their customer support if better. Other than that, the pricing is pretty comparable for both.


16 posted on 10/24/2011 1:22:06 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: WayneS

Those ‘you may lose’ crawlers come up once a year or so when they are in contract renewals. I think they are to get customers to put pressure on Fox to help DirectTV’s negotiation position.


17 posted on 10/24/2011 1:23:37 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I had DirecTV for several years. Customer service was polite, professional, and responsive. Signal quality was very good EXCEPT when the weather turned nasty. Heavy rain between your dish and the bird up there over the equator will disrupt the signal.

No experience with Dish.

Currently using an old “analog” antenna on top of my very own 30’ tower to receive digital signals from Washington, DC and Baltimordor.

Heavy rain interferes with that, too.


18 posted on 10/24/2011 1:25:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

>>>Because free TV ceased analog broadcasts over two years ago.

OTA digital TV signals can be picked up nearly everywhere, with the 4 networks & PBS all likely sending multiple streams - and the same antennae that you think are useless are exactly what you’d need for OTA TV reception... and it’s still free to pluck out of the air.


19 posted on 10/24/2011 1:25:37 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: mnehring

Direct TV all the way. No one I know who has Dish is happy with their service, they keep cutting channels and raising prices.
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Yeah , Charlie Ergin (dishnet CEO) is way too tight ,, needs to upgrade his custserv A LOT ... DirecTV has always had better receivers because they allowed multiple companies to produce them (and naturally compete) , where dishnet made their own exclusively for at least 10 years.. I think Dishnet is raising prices because of a failed satellite that is out of position costing them BIG $$$ ... Echo9 maybe?


20 posted on 10/24/2011 1:28:01 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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Can anybody tell me which has the faster Internet? I am sure they’re both fine for TV and telephone quality, but I want speed on Internet, so I can watch FR take f o r e v e r to load a page.


21 posted on 10/24/2011 1:28:44 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

OTA HDTV (free) + Internet (HULU (free) + NETFLIX ($8/mo) + You Tube (free) is more choice than you’ll perhaps have free time to watch.


22 posted on 10/24/2011 1:32:28 PM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

We are happy with dish. Ask any question you want. We have all the channels.


23 posted on 10/24/2011 1:32:44 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I had dish and it was fine. I think either would be ok except for heavy weather. Also espn and dish are fighting so if your a sports nut you might want to check the sports status of both


24 posted on 10/24/2011 1:33:08 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I’m just going to say one more thing about OTA transmission ... if you tried using a “regular” antenna when locals were simulcasting digital and analog and were dissatisfied then you need to look again ... especially if you were using one of those horrible digital to analog converter boxes .... when analog went away the signal for digital was bumped up in most cases ... I don’t have a good outdoor antenna right now but with a cheesy indoor set of rabbit ears I get really nice reception on the locals.


25 posted on 10/24/2011 1:33:51 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Zionist Conspirator

We went from Dish to DirecTV and are now back with Dish. Seems a little less pricey and my experience with the techie side has been good. Also, the two-TV DVR is a nice feature except when your children are recording two shows at a time, neither of which you give a rat’s rear about watching in real time. Then you gotta retreat to the inner sanctum and watch on the old TV.

Colonel, USAFR


26 posted on 10/24/2011 1:35:12 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

>>> she used to enjoy watching QVC to do some shopping and she doesn’t have it on Dish anymore

QVC is available in the Top 120 Dish package and above.
Dish also doesn’t charge extra for setups in two rooms.

http://www.dishnetwork.com/packages/detail.aspx?pack=AT100


27 posted on 10/24/2011 1:35:20 PM PDT by tlb
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To: Johnny B.

We have dish because of that exact reason. You can get “local” sports channels in places where you don’t live, to follow college teams elsewhere.


28 posted on 10/24/2011 1:35:36 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I’ve had DirecTV for many years now and zero complaints. Signal is strong and consistent (even in clouds/bad weather), I get the locals, etc.

Paying around $90/month for expanded basic and three receivers.

Another poster above mentioned internet through the satellite companies. As far as I understand, you can’t get it through Dish/DirecTV. You would have to go HughesNet and get a seperate dish antenna for that. I inquired a few years ago and that’s what I was told.


29 posted on 10/24/2011 1:35:36 PM PDT by JoenTX (?)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I’ve had cable, Dish and DirecTV, although it’s been some time since I was a DirecTV subscriber. I’m currently Dish.

By and large, Dish is good. It’s cheaper than DirecTV by a significant margin (and the price is now locked through 2013, I think). Dish has the Blockbuster streaming and DVD rental that comes with your subscription, which is a nice feature that is absent from DirecTV.

Dish also has a Slingbox receiver that will let you watch live TV, through your satellite, from any computer. I don’t know if DirecTv has a similar feature, but it’s nice to be able to watch your satellite dish on your iPad sitting in an airport. Makes the day go a lot quicker.

Channels are comparable. Until a couple of months ago, Dish didn’t have MLB Network. I thought this was a significant flaw, but it recently was added. I’m not aware of any major channels (other than Sunday Ticket) that are available on DirecTV and not on Dish.

These are the factors that put me into the Dish camp a year ago. Dish hasn’t been perfect—I get a lot more outages than I used to when I was a subscriber 5 years ago—but it’s been OK.


30 posted on 10/24/2011 1:35:50 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: DTA

Excellent point...I use Blockbuster on occasion and sales from Walmart...but your point is spot on:

OTA+Hulu+DVD+Youtube = 99% Already

Occasionally I turn on my Free Ku Band satellite...but with Galaxy 10 shutdown and the slim pickings on AMC satellites - it stays off most of the time.

=8-)


31 posted on 10/24/2011 1:36:08 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I had DirecTV for almost ten years without any problems. Of course, there were several times I was watching a very interesting program and it started to rain- and I never got to see the end. This happened very rarely, though. Then they had the NFL games special for free for all new subscribers. I emailed and requested the same special. They told me no. But they did say to call a phone number if I was still unhappy. Anyway, I switched to cable and called and cancelled my DIrecTV. It was only then they started sweetening the deal if I wouldn’t cancel. It was only after I was adamant I was gonna cancel that they offered me the NFL package. That aggravated me a bit, so I still cancelled and kept the cable. I would never go with DISH, though.


32 posted on 10/24/2011 1:36:35 PM PDT by Krankor (Electrical banana Is gonna be a sudden craze Electrical banana Is bound to be the very next phase)
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To: tlb
Dish also doesn’t charge extra for setups in two rooms.

True unless they are both HDTVs. Then it's extra.

33 posted on 10/24/2011 1:37:17 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Because free TV ceased analog broadcasts over two years ago.
Yes, but they broadcast free digital TV now. If you have a digital TV (if not, why not?!?) or a converter box, you can still receive free TV. Typically, each station broadcasts several channels, so you may have 3-4 times as many channels available as before (although most of them aren't worth watching).

As mentioned in another comment, there is no such thing as a "digital" antenna. The only considerations are VHF vs UHF. Almost all digital channels are UHF, so you can often get by with a small UHF antenna. If a station you want to watch is on the VHF band, then you need a big VHF antenna. If your house already has a TV antenna (even an old one), you might want to try it out. You may get good reception without doing anything.

34 posted on 10/24/2011 1:38:38 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Neither:

KILL YOUR TELEVISION

35 posted on 10/24/2011 1:43:35 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
Already posted, Troll.
36 posted on 10/24/2011 1:43:34 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Neidermeyer

Here in SF Bay Area I use my old figure-8 Terk up in the attic.

I pull in -10.0dB LO and -5.0dB HI...

Boosted with 12.0dB AMP and split through a 4-way at 7.5dB loss...

I get -5.0dB LO and 0.00dB HI at my wall ports.

The only stations I can get are in the 2- range, 4- range and 5- range.

Neighbor across the street with his outdoor tree-style antenna gets what I can’t.

At least my boy gets his 54-4 PBS kids - my wife gets her 1-XX Vietnamese radio broadcast...so house is happy.

Watched Saints versus Colts on 11-1 last night so I can’t complain either.

=8-)


37 posted on 10/24/2011 1:43:49 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Had DirecTV for years and their service sucked -- this was back in the 90's. Went to DISH many years ago and we have loved every minute of it. Very little interruption, even in bad weather. Upgraded to DISH HD 2 years ago and have been delighted.

My son has had DIRECTv for the past 3 years and he hated it. At first, no local channels ... then he could get them but had to pay extra. Lots of problems with DVR and very little assistance from DIRECv.

Last month he switched to DISH and has been so happy with them on the phone and the guy who came and did the installation. Service has been dependable so far.

I'd recommend DISH without hesitation. Their website is great ... you can do live chat if you have a problem and don't want to do it on the phone. You are able to totally control your account online and pay very easily.

38 posted on 10/24/2011 1:44:24 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Johnny B.
“If you live in the snow belt, make sure you can reach the dish to brush off the snow. Otherwise, you might not get reception until spring!”

YES! Dish on the roof is not good during winter. Rain is also an issue. You lose signal during heavy downpours or heavy storm clouds between your antenna and satellite. Just something you have to deal with.

39 posted on 10/24/2011 1:44:24 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

You want DirecTV. It has better programming than Dish. If you’ve had real cable tv in the past you’re going to be mighty disappointed with either one. Rain fade always happens at the worst possible time. Snow on the LNB means no picture. I truly dislike the policies of DirecTV, and if the programming packages were equal I wouldn’t be their customer. However, since cable tv will never come to my house I have to do the best I can. Hope this helps. Oh, and be sure to get a DVR. You’ll love it.


40 posted on 10/24/2011 1:44:52 PM PDT by CaraMiaR (Excuse me, I have to adjust my aluminium hat.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I have been using Dish TV for the last 5 years.As far as programming go’s its not bad.Its Not inexpensive but I suppose thats all dependant on how many movie channels you have on it.

One thin I do dislike about it is the number of what I call trash channels.Channels that I have absolutely NO Use for such as all of the Hispanic Programming Channels,ESPN’s Iterations 1-Infinity.All of the Shopping channels.

Unfortunately they will Not give youa cheaper Price or allow you to get rid of that Garbage.

Still even with those issues I’d rather keep Dish TV than use any cable system.


41 posted on 10/24/2011 1:45:26 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
DirectTV.

I can watch the Penguins on Root Network, and the NHL Network and Versus.

42 posted on 10/24/2011 1:46:23 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Have had Direct TV for many years and all over the state of Texas. Have the expanded choice because I don’t watch FOX news but do watch the FOX Business channel. Programs for kids are great - also watch all the reruns of NCIS and Criminal Minds on ION. We get a coupon for a free movie about every other month and have watched some of the PPV channels for three months free.


43 posted on 10/24/2011 1:46:44 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: martin_fierro
"To: =8 mrrabbit 8=
Already posted, Troll."

That's freaky - how did you do that..............?

44 posted on 10/24/2011 1:47:47 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

Oops...”I can get” = I can’t get”

=8-(


45 posted on 10/24/2011 1:47:55 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I have Dish Network and have had it for years. The first time we signed up my wife refused to sign up for a two year contract. They waived the normal two year contract and set up the dish. We have moved a number of times since and get a new antenna each time. We have never had a problem. When you get set up the Technician will set you up for your local stations.

We have also had Sat. Internet service with Hughsnet when we lived in Tx. Both Sat TV and Sat Internet are worth it if you have the $$ to spend for them, especially if there is no near future of cable coming to your area.


46 posted on 10/24/2011 1:48:43 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: mnehring

“I think they are to get customers to put pressure on Fox to help DirectTV’s negotiation position.”

I think it’s the other way around. It appeared embedded in the FX channel feed when I saw it rather than overlaid by DTV. Like FOX wants its viewers to pressure DTV to pay the higher content fees Fox wants. And Dish is running commercials about it trying to suck customers away from DTV.


47 posted on 10/24/2011 1:49:46 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I've had both. I recommend DIRECTV.
Reason: Better format. You're able to set up the guide the way you want it.

There's no need to talk about clear picture, because all satellite TV services have a clear picture.
But late night call, talk to a real person service is a consideration, and Directv is much better than Dish TV.
But the main reason is the computer format, the ability to search movies.
If you like to watch movies on demand for free, then Dish has more of that for free, but I haven't tried Directv HBO online or Directv Watch Online, yet.
I'm not much for sports packages, but directv has online sports, also.
If you know someone who has Directv, ask them for the $100.00 discount slip from their account bill, and you both get $100.00 each off.
Read more about their technology.

48 posted on 10/24/2011 1:51:01 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

we’ve had DirecTV for about ten years. While their customer service people have lime jello for brains (one told my wife that we should ditch a certain brand of battery because it wouldn’t work inthe remote, and we were on the phone for five and a half hours trying to get a new install in my wood shop), it has been hassle free. In a severe storm you might lose signal for a bit, but on the whole they fill the bill. We live in a major snow belt and contrary to another commenter, we have never had to brush snow off the dish to restore reception. Local stations reception is not a problem here in Central NY and the sports selection is top notch — when they aren’t finessed by Time Warner. sd


49 posted on 10/24/2011 1:51:34 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I have less than 8 month to go on my Directtv contract and I will be switching back to Dish. I switched when Dish was in contract dispute with the Fox channels and I kick my own butt everytime I turn the set on.

I have the full blown everything Pak and they are just now getting some of the channels in HD that Dish offered. They don’t carry the local channels in HD in my area (Dish did) and even told me that they were not available. If you are able to receive HD over the air you cannot hook it directly into non primary DirectTV equipment. It can only be hooked in to the Whole Home DVR using a box that is the size of a friggin DVD player.

Their DVR funtionality sucks compared to DISH, their remote controls have a built in 3 second delay before anything happens, often causing you change the channel or something else because of this delay and then they have this stupid “bong” that you hear if it is something that the receiver can’t do. Their channel guide sucks too. Say you want to watch ESPN on Direct channel 206. You punch in 205 by mistake. After the delay,you hear the bong, it will say channel unavailable. On Dish, it will change to the nearest channel that is available or in this case it will either go to 206 or 204.

On non primary receivers you cannot set a future show to record but you can set a an autotune. On the main Whole Home DVR you can set shows to record but you cannot set an autotune.

With Dish you can get 4 independent DVRs or in my case 2 single DVRs and one 2 dual tuner DVR. With the over the air connection directly inot each unit which would display on the guide. Also with the dual tuner connected to the over the air channels you could record 3 (2 Dish channels and one over the air) shows at one time, altough you had to be watching one of them. By plugging in the over the air your actual dish receiver acts as another antenna and will pull in additional channels...

IWas told on the phone that they would disconnect and ship back all of my Dish equipment which was a lie, they lied about carrying more HD then Dish, Not only did they lie about my local channels they then argued with me that they were not available in HD even though I was watching them (conected directly to my set)! Thier customer service sucks.

DirectTV Sucks!


50 posted on 10/24/2011 2:00:19 PM PDT by shotgun
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