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2011 INDIAN GRAND PRIX - Live Thread
Chode ^ | 10/27/2011 | Chode

Posted on 10/27/2011 7:30:10 PM PDT by Chode

2011 INDIAN GRAND PRIX

Venue: New Delhi
Date: Sunday 30 October
Lap length: 3.31 miles
Race laps: 61
2010 winner: N/A
First grand prix: 2011

Fri Sunny 30c

Sat Sunny 31c

Sun Sunny 31c


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: f1; formulaone; grandprix

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1 posted on 10/27/2011 7:30:15 PM PDT by Chode
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To: Chode; atc23; Bad~Rodeo; Betis70; bobby.223; bobt7818; BreezyDog; brf1; briankk; cld51860; ...
UP...!!!

2 posted on 10/27/2011 7:31:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Are they still having problems getting their act together for this race?


3 posted on 10/27/2011 7:34:27 PM PDT by henkster (Socialists and liberals all want jobs; they just don't want to work.)
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To: Chode
Stuff...

Jenson Button and Mark Webber will this weekend lead the tributes to Dan Wheldon after the recent tragic death of their close friend. The pair have had helmet stickers made bearing Wheldon's logo, his initials in red, white and black, while Button revealed he will wear a black armband in Sunday's inaugural Indian Grand Prix.

"I sent Jenson a text after the race in Korea and I told him I wanted to get some stickers made up for our helmets," said Webber. "I asked him if he was keen and he said he was. It's a nice little sticker because we both knew him. It's only natural he is part of us a little this weekend."

McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton will have manager Simon Fuller by his side for only the second time this season in India. Hamilton's father Anthony, who managed Lewis until March 2010, has criticised his son's new team for failing to attend races.
(Press Association)

McLaren will introduce a new front wing at the Indian Grand Prix, but technical director Paddy Lowe admits that the Woking-based team are "winding to a close with what we'll bring in terms of updates this year".
Full story: ESPNF1

Triple world champion Sir Jackie Stewart has criticised Lewis Hamilton's overtaking style, saying that "even a blind man" would not have attempted one of his overtaking manoeuvres on Felipe Massa in the 2010 Italian Grand Prix.
Full story: Motor Sport

Archive: Hamilton crashes out of the 2010 Italian GP on first lap

Ferrari's chief designer Nikolas Tombazis concedes that his team will have to consider duplicating the innovations that have helped Red Bull sweep to the constructors' title three races before the end of the season. "You can't ignore your competitors: if Red Bull wins, you can't say 'I'll just mind my own business'," he said.
Full story: Autosprint (in Italian)

The press pack have encountered several problems on their arrival at the media centre at the Indian Grand Prix. Press Association journalist Ian Parkes freed a trapped bat, while BBC presenter Jake Humphrey is concerned by two power cuts.

The Buddh International Circuit will feature two separate DRS zones.
Full story: FIA.com

President of the Indian Motor Sports Federation Vicky Chandhok believes this weekend's Indian Grand Prix represents better value for the country than the 2010 Commonwealth Games in Delhi. "I don't really see the purpose of the Commonwealth Games, with the viewership so low," he said. "The amount of money that was spent on putting up facilities that are not going to be looked after is something this country could ill afford. That was taxpayers' money, but this is private enterprise and it will be looked after."
(Press Association)

Red Bull will take to the streets of the team's hometown of Milton Keynes on 10 December to celebrate winning the drivers' and constructors' titles. The event includes a demonstration of one of the team's F1 cars.
Full story: Destination Milton Keynes

The Russian government will spend US$194.4m (£122.1m) to build the circuit for the country's first Grand Prix in Sochi in 2014.
Full story: Reuters

4 posted on 10/27/2011 7:34:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: henkster
not that i can tell... in reference to what though, track condition?
5 posted on 10/27/2011 7:38:50 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

My son said something about an Indian government shakedown that might have kept it from being televised.


6 posted on 10/27/2011 7:52:37 PM PDT by henkster (Socialists and liberals all want jobs; they just don't want to work.)
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To: henkster
if so, that would make them very unlikely to ever have another one... i'm afraid Bernie would insist
7 posted on 10/27/2011 8:01:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Bernie has had it with a lot of these race organizers/money men.....especially the Asians it seems.


8 posted on 10/27/2011 8:20:51 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: bobby.223
no doubt
9 posted on 10/27/2011 9:24:11 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

This will be an interesting race. The track, from what I’ve seen on TV here, looks to be in good shape, and the layout is nice. What makes it more interesting is that, with the Championship sewed up, and I think the Constructor championship too, this might be an interesting venue for the teams to try some new innovations or strategies. There wouldn’t be any penalty for doing so, and the track is a good mixture of straights and technical sections that provide a nice testing ground for such things.


10 posted on 10/27/2011 11:01:53 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig
ya want on da list???
11 posted on 10/28/2011 5:10:54 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode; henkster
not that i can tell... in reference to what though, track condition?

I don't know what the reference point is, but I will bet that if it is organized well in those countries, that means the private sector managed the event. If the organization was botched up, the government controlled it.

We should not be smug about our governments not botching up the organization of events because our governments swallow huge amounts of money compared to the Asians while organizing events. That too is one form of botching up.

12 posted on 10/28/2011 5:11:14 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: Chode
2nd practice

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:25.706 33
2 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:25.794 0.088 34
3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:25.930 0.224 34
4 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.454 0.748 26
5 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:26.500 0.794 30
6 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.714 1.008 28
7 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:27.316 1.610 34
8 9 Bruno Senna Renault 1:27.498 1.792 36
9 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:27.853 2.147 35
10 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:27.868 2.162 35
11 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:27.890 2.184 37
12 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.050 2.344 34
13 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.289 2.583 36
14 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:28.552 2.846 31
15 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:28.691 2.985 29
16 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:28.708 3.002 24
17 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:29.332 3.626 39
18 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:30.241 4.535 41
19 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:31.098 5.392 38
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:31.469 5.763 32
21 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:31.804 6.098 28
22 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:32.593 6.887 12
23 23 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1:32.768 7.062 33
24 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:32.824 7.118 33

13 posted on 10/28/2011 5:21:46 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: JimWayne
very true...
14 posted on 10/28/2011 2:52:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
Q

Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:26.218 1:24.657 1:24.178 16
2 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.563 1:25.019 1:24.474 18
3 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:26.473 1:25.282 1:24.508 17
4 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:26.774 1:25.158 1:24.519 19
5 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:26.225 1:25.299 1:24.950 20
6 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.012 1:25.522 1:25.122 18
7 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:26.364 1:25.555 1:25.451 19
8 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:26.271 1:26.140 No time 19
9 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:26.608 1:26.161 No time 19
10 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:26.557 1:26.319 No time 19
11 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:26.189 1:26.319 20
12 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:26.790 1:26.337 17
13 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:26.864 1:26.503 15
14 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:26.829 1:26.537 18
15 9 Bruno Senna Renault 1:26.766 1:26.651 16
16 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:27.479 1:27.247 17
17 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.249 1:27.562 10
18 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:27.876 6
19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:28.565 13
20 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:28.752 13
21 23 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1:30.216 11
22 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:30.238 11
23 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.866 14
DNQ 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:34.046 3
Q1 107% Time 1:32.222

15 posted on 10/29/2011 6:52:13 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

For a while I wondered about Hamilton’s new helmet design (Bob Marley) and why the cameras kept focusing on it.

Heh. No woman no cry.


16 posted on 10/29/2011 11:24:51 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Moltke
with all the Rookie mistakes he's been making, including THIS weekend, i almost think he's on dope...
17 posted on 10/29/2011 12:08:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Ouch, that’s harsh! Actually, thinking back to when I was his age, I can see how he could be cut up over some trollop he’s been bedding.

But that’s today’s F1 - a bunch of whippersnappers with no real life experience.


18 posted on 10/29/2011 4:07:55 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Moltke
why, did he get dumped???
19 posted on 10/29/2011 5:00:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Yeah, looks like it. I don’t follow the tabloid mush, but I take a look at the Daily Mail page, and Nicole something-or-other just dumped him.

Hence, I guess, all the allusions to him ‘going through a rough time’ etc. And, of course, the helmet design.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 5:59:55 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Moltke
but Marley??? it's beyond me...
21 posted on 10/30/2011 6:27:12 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Moltke
but Marley??? it's beyond me...
22 posted on 10/30/2011 6:28:14 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode
Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Pts
1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 60 1:30:35.002 1 25
2 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 60 +8.4 secs 4 18
3 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 60 +24.3 secs 3 15
4 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 60 +25.5 secs 2 12
5 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 60 +65.4 secs 11 10
6 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 60 +66.8 secs 7 8
7 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 60 +84.1 secs 5 6
8 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 59 +1 Lap 10 4
9 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 59 +1 Lap 8 2
10 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 59 +1 Lap 20 1
11 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 59 +1 Lap 16
12 9 Bruno Senna Renault 59 +1 Lap 14
13 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 59 +1 Lap 12
14 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 58 +2 Laps 18
15 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 58 +2 Laps 15
16 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 57 +3 Laps 21
17 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 57 +3 Laps 23
18 23 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 57 +3 Laps 22
19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 55 +5 Laps 19
Ret 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 32 +28 Laps 6
Ret 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 24 Technical 9
Ret 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 12 Gearbox 13
Ret 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2 Accident damage 24
Ret 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 0 Accident damage 17

23 posted on 10/30/2011 6:28:41 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Like I said - “No Woman No Cry”. One of Marley’s biggest hits. Hamilton is sending a message to his ex - and the world at large. Brundle and Coulthard briefly mentioned the Marley design in the BBC race commentary but didn’t follow through with the meaning. I wonder why. Did they not figure it out (they were mumbling something about a Marley tribute - what, 30 years after the guy died?) or were they going easy on Hamilton?

Anyway, back to the race, did Massa damage his front suspension on purpose? It sure looked that way to me.

He broke the right front suspension on one of those raised orange curbs yesterday in qualifying. And after he gets the penalty for the incident with Hamilton (heh, Hamilton again) in the race today he hits one of those first right front and then in the following turn left front - bang! and goodbye! He was AIMING for those suckers knowing what would happen! I wonder whether Massa will be driving for Ferrari next season...


24 posted on 10/30/2011 1:27:11 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Moltke
now i get the No woman no cry, and it kinda look like Massa was aiming for them to me tooo... guess you're right and he might be gone next year
25 posted on 10/30/2011 3:43:02 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Little Pig

The race itself seemed to go pretty smoothly. Nice layout but that haze/smoke was distracting. My wife tells me it’s very common around Delhi, similar to parts of China.


26 posted on 10/30/2011 3:49:51 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: steve86

So Baraq’s claim he stopped the oceans from rising and the earth began to heal may be contingent on the (sh1tty) atmosphere in Indian and China?

Who knew?


27 posted on 10/30/2011 3:53:20 PM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: steve86

Yes. My wife tells me that’s a common phenomenon for this time of year in Delhi. However, the race commentator’s comments were heartening, in that this is apparently one of the best tracks in the series (something supported by the drivers), and the fact that the event itself went so smoothly, and the facility was in such good shape (unlike the Commonwealth Games) that this is likely to become a favorite on the race calendar in the future. I missed being able to be there this year, though several other family members were able to attend, but I’ll be there next year for sure.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 7:17:33 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig

My wife is from Mumbai but doesn’t look like I’ll ever make it there (or to an F1 event, for that matter). Oh well, looking forward to visiting the new Oregon Raceway Park next spring (not too far away) and there’s always the Mt. Everest webcam http://www.evk2cnr.org/WebCams/PyramidOne/everest-webcam.html


29 posted on 10/30/2011 8:13:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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