Skip to comments.Occupy Phoenix Asks: When Should You Shoot a Cop?
Posted on 10/28/2011 12:50:35 PM PDT by massmike
Welcome to Occupy Phoenix, the latest violent embarrassment to American society. This group of occupiers is asking, "When should you shoot a cop?" Pamphlets asking this question and laying out justifications for doing so were left at the Occupy Wall Street location in Phoenix, Arizona and found by a Maricopa County Sheriff Deputy.
That's right folks, according to the OWS crowd, changing society "almost always requires" killing law enforcement officers. Law enforcement officers in the Grand Canyon state have been placed on high alert and the Arizona Counter-Terrorism Information Center has published a safety memo in response to the threats of unapologetic cop killing.
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THINGS YOU WON’T BE SEEING ON MSNBC!
Obama and the Dems own this scum.
You should shoot a cop when he breaks in to your house in the middle of the night uninvited and without identifying himself.
Otherwise, in 99.99% of situations, it's probably best not to shoot a cop.
Why police wear riot gear when liberals protest.
More satanic disrespect of authority.
Something similar to that happened in Portsmouth VA, the gy is still in jail.
You only shoot a cop when you want to get into a lot of trouble and have your life pretty much changed in a bad way, forever.
If the authorities cut back on the disreputable behavior like punching people in the face, lobbing tear gas grenades into the middle of a crowd, and pepper-spraying young women, then perhaps there’d be more respect for authority.
When he’s the bad guy in a Dean Koontz novel or movie.
Uh, when you want to commit suicide by cop?
NYSlimes and NPR won’t say a word. Not a word....
I dunno. Plenty of cop haters here on FR that will give them some pointers.
When you want to die!
Yeah, like killing cops is going to win people over to their way of thinking.
On the other hand, as is proven more and more (thanks to video cameras), either the cop will be dead after the dynamic entry or you will be. There is often no third option.
Could it be that the pamphlet was planted to generate a knee-jerk reaction, in Arizona state legislators, to initiate gun control legislation, in a state that for the last 6 years (thanks to http://www.azcdl.org) has been restoring the right to bears arms in Arziona?
Ummm... I don't know, when you are tired of living?
I'm not saying this doesn't happen, but that's absolutely NO excuse for what these so called "Occupiers" are calling for. And shame on you for implying that it does.
If someone (ANYONE) is breaking in to my house in the middle of the night uninvited then there is a good chance my life is about to be “pretty much changed in a bad way, forever” anyway, so I’ll go ahead and protect myself and my family, thank you.
You make an excellent point.
I had a liberal Ann Arbor cop living next door for a while. He was a young guy and being a cop in Ann Arbor was making him a conservative in a hurry.
As he said, he didn’t have to worry about conservative neighbors retaliating against his wife or daughter.
My advice - don’t shoot the deputy; that seems to be a mitigating condition.
Nancy Pelosi wants to kill cops.
Pelosi on Occupy Wall Street Protesters: “God bless them”
In every video I saw, the crowd was pushing and pressing up close against the police line. They were intent on overwhelming the police with massive numbers and forcing them up against buildings. Or, they were throwing rocks and bottles at the police.
I was around the last time this sort of behavior took place. Every *police riot* was instigated by the hardcore cadre, who then dodged off to one side, so the less savvy crowds behind them got the brunt of the response.
There are trainings, always, beforehand, in leftist protests. People are told how to protect themselves from teargas, how to go limp, how to break out of restraints. Of course, they are not told what to do when their compadres are stampeding over them and fighting with riot squads right on top of the fallen.
The cadres know the stakes and the goals. The rest are cannon fodder. Cannot wait to see how everyone else responds to the martial law they are trying to provoke. The left hopes you blame the authorities. Then, they can commence with the Communes (similar to Soviets, meaning councils) and the Terror.
The deadbeats at Red October are handing out literature like this, but then they expect us to boo hoo about some Marine Corps reject in Oakland who took a tear gas can to the noggin?
Maybe the police ought to be distributing pamphlets detailing “When to Shoot a Hippie Parasite.”
The one Phoenix cop I knew spent a lot time at their range burning up seized ammo. They will shoot back.
Ask Jon Stewart. He disapproves of First Responders who hassle Owssies.
From that whole OWS crowd, maybe 1 out of 100 would even dare touch an eeeeevil gun? Sounds like the wrong audience to me.
May they be seized with a perpetual sneezing fit?
They need to ask Mumia Abu Jamal about when to shoot cops.
Maybe they already have.
Doesn’t this qualify as subversion? A crime?
The full text of the pamphlet is reposted at your link.
Could have been written by any of the Liberaltarian posters here at FR. In fact, it may well have been.
Well, there is an “OWS” mentality here or there on Free Republic that reflexively buys into the media inaccuracies and sensationalism. They take the bait hook, line, and sinker just as the Leftist intended.
Yeah, just like the Tea Party rallies. Oh, wait...
I wonder if this is not a stunt pulled by a provocateur. The powers to be fear the small gov Tea Party because it will reduce crony capitalism, but OWS is hitting a raw nerve based on hatred and anger at bankers and the rich (powers to be). When you threaten the rich and their families, they do not sit idly by. How ruthless is the PTB class, the EU PTB used to rag on Turkey for having a power military political class. Get rid of it before you can enter EU was the demand. When Greece was shaky on passing austerity to pay the bank losses, the EU hinted to the Greek military that if they pulled a coup and re establish order thru a military junta, Greece can still stay in the EU. When real power is threaten all laws and liberties can be suspended by them and no ruthless act is impossible. I say pamphlet is a plant.
Yes, there is. Many of the “single politics” issues I see going on at the OWS “rallies” I see here (other issues of course, whether folks don’t like some stance of Cain (and I have seen NO indication that any dislike is racial), or Romney, or Perry, or whomever).
That is great. I would like to see a hard fought nomination contest, and above all that we get the best possible candidate.
But... the day (in fact the hour) after the nomination is delivered, I would like to see all conservatives get behind whoever the nominee is, and do their utmost to support him or her to get Obama ought of office.
The MSM will try to aggravate these pre-convention divisions.
Don’t fall for it.
“ought” should be “out” (long week!)
Oddly enough, I think they have a point. To explain.
Prior to the 1970s, police operated under what could be called “Old West” rules for gun use. This meant that guns remained in holsters, and when they were removed from holsters, it meant that someone was going to be shot, with a good chance they would be killed. And backing up this rule was the *certainty*, in the law, that someone who murdered a police officer would be executed, swiftly and judiciously.
But in the 1970s, two things happened. The first was that the death penalty was thrown out by a liberal Supreme Court. The second was that several police officers were assassinated by radicals in the US.
The response to this was the nationwide promulgation of SWAT rules by police departments, who were encouraged to do so by the federal government. This meant frequently guns were brandished and paramilitary weaponry became common among even small police forces.
Since that time, however, there has been a major increase in police powers, authority and a concomitant decline in responsibility for excessive use of force. Constitutional protections, especially since 911, have been eroded to meaninglessness.
And there is a national unwillingness to reverse this situation, moving the nation into a progressively police state, with federal police agencies, power, and a willingness to use force now in between 50 to 100 agencies. Fully funded and then some by RICO wealth seizures.
This has to end, and end dramatically. There is no legitimacy to the creation of this national police and security/intelligence apparatus nightmare, which is stripping away citizens rights at just a blinding pace today.
But this DOES NOT mean killing police officers.
What it does mean is three things: demilitarization of law enforcement officers throughout the US; the reduction of federal police authority to just several agencies: the FBI, the US Marshals Service, the US Treasury Department, and a few others; and the restoration of civil rights which have been taken away since Prohibition.
And in exchange, the restoration of a quick and certain death penalty for anyone convicted of killing a law enforcement officer. Which means strictly limiting the involvement of federal appellate judges from hearing such cases.
Most of the Patriot Act, which is mostly used against ordinary crime, not terrorism, should be discarded. The TSA should be fully privatized, funded by airports and airlines, giving them the level of security that *they* want.
And there needs to be a federal privacy and database act, severely limiting the circumstances under which federal agencies and even private corporations and individuals can obtain and preserve personal information about individuals.
What if the cop is part of the Gestapo? Is that different from when the cop is part of the Mounties? Or maybe your local school guard?
If resistance to a tyrannical government is justified, killing almost any government official, cop or whatever, is probably justified.
If an unjust or illegal action by a cop can be addressed satisfactorily by the justice system, then killing a cop is probably not justified.
The problem comes when not killing the cop is likely to result in serious injury or death to yourself or a loved one. When it comes down to the cop or you, the choice is obvious. Better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.
Occupy Phoenix, the latest violent embarrassment to American society.
And the answer is for the two minutes while an "Occupy XXX" protestor is pouring excrement and blood on the cop, so the cop can use that as a defense against brutality charges when he *then* uses his nightstick on the Commie provocateur.
BTW, when shooting these vermin, aim at the head, that’s the part that’s rotten beyond value.
No one said you shouldn’t.
Yep. But, I’ve been called a bootlicker or worse, for just stating the opinion that cops are - for the greatest part - just regular guys doing a lousy job. The color blue seems to bring out the worst in some FReepers.
That looks like an admonition to me.
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