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Giant sequoia falls, raising questions about what to do next
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 29, 2011 | Bettina Boxall

Posted on 10/29/2011 12:26:50 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife


The giant sequoia lies across the popular Trail of 100 Giants at Sequoia National Forest, Calif. No one was hurt when it fell. (Sequoia National Forest / September 30, 2011)

Along the Sierra Nevada's famed Trail of 100 Giants, the mammoth sequoia had stood sentry since King Arthur's knights gathered at the Round Table.

It witnessed the arrival of the first European settlers and the flurry of miners in search of gold. The onset of the Medieval Warm Period and the passing of the Little Ice Age. It stood, unperturbed, through the Great War and the one that followed.

Then a month ago, as a handful of amazed tourists looked on, it toppled — crushing a bridge over a small stream and blocking the path.

Now, the U.S. Forest Service must decide what to do.

Slice a big hole in the 300-foot-long roadblock? Go around it? Over it? Under it?

When you're dealing with a 1,500-year-old sequoia in a national monument, the questions aren't just logistical. They're environmental, emotive and potentially legal.

Officials closed the popular tourist trail, cleared the debris and solicited ideas from the public on how to deal with the fallen giant — actually two trees fused at the base.

Among the 30 or so suggestions: Reroute the trail. Tunnel under the trunks. Carve steps and build a bridge over them. Sell what would be one heck of a lot of firewood.

"This has not happened in the Sequoia National Forest before," said public affairs officer Denise Alonzo, explaining the indecision.........

In considering its options, the Forest Service wants to keep the paved path accessible to the disabled and make sure nothing is done to damage the root systems of surrounding trees, Alonzo said........

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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1 posted on 10/29/2011 12:26:53 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's a idea for them...

CUT THE F*&KING THING UP!!!

Man, we have become a country of absolute idiots!!

2 posted on 10/29/2011 12:28:28 PM PDT by Fedupwithit ("Live free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - Gen. John Stark)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How about sell it for lumber and send the proceeds to the treasury.


3 posted on 10/29/2011 12:29:00 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Fedupwithit

Actually, you sound like the idiot.


4 posted on 10/29/2011 12:30:20 PM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I say, bore a big ol’hole in it and make it a natural bridge/tunnel that people can just stroll through.


5 posted on 10/29/2011 12:30:20 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I didn’t hear a thing.


6 posted on 10/29/2011 12:30:57 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s dead, Jim!


7 posted on 10/29/2011 12:32:16 PM PDT by fanfan (This is not my Father's Canada.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Make some steps, a tunnel, some nice planks and burn the rest in the wood stove.


8 posted on 10/29/2011 12:32:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: DManA

This is California.. why, oh why, do I get the idea that some idiot will actually want to have a public funeral? The death of a tree.. boo hoo hoo.


9 posted on 10/29/2011 12:32:34 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: I cannot think of a name

Yes, but you are still wrong...


10 posted on 10/29/2011 12:33:13 PM PDT by null and void (MSGT Dean Hopkins USMC (ret) WWII-Korea-Vietnam 11/9/1925-10/22/2011 My hero, my Dad)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Take lateral slices and analyze for climate change and carbon content over the course of the ages.

And check to see if King Arthur and the Knights get a decent burial, since this tree witnessed their lives.

Oh, and change that sign from "100 Giants" to "99 Giants", pronto.

11 posted on 10/29/2011 12:33:15 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: gimme1ibertee

That way people can stop and count the rings.


12 posted on 10/29/2011 12:33:18 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: DManA

Make some REAL money by selling to the public one inch square pieces sealed in Lucite. The liberal weinies especially the greens will pay plenty. All money goes t the trsury for debt reduction.


13 posted on 10/29/2011 12:34:14 PM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They would call this "lumber" in a rational world.
14 posted on 10/29/2011 12:34:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: Fedupwithit
The giant sequoia lies across the popular Trail of 100 Giants at Sequoia National Forest, Calif.

Let's form a drum circle, hold hands, and weep for Mother Gaia's lost child.

15 posted on 10/29/2011 12:34:26 PM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BTW, how do you cut and split a 17 foot diameter tree?


16 posted on 10/29/2011 12:35:53 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: Fedupwithit

...and use the wood to make a table and chairs and sell it for a million dollars.


17 posted on 10/29/2011 12:35:58 PM PDT by donna (Americans now owe more on student loans than on credit cards.)
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To: Fedupwithit

Only the federal govt could dither and wring their hands over a dead tree.


18 posted on 10/29/2011 12:36:33 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It witnessed?

It didn't witness anything,it's a tree.

19 posted on 10/29/2011 12:37:03 PM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cut it up but not just for lumber. Sell it online at auctions and in tourist shops as a piece of natural history. Proceeds go to reducing our debt.
Some pieces could be made into furniture or other items and because of the historic value priced accordingly.


20 posted on 10/29/2011 12:37:55 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt The Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s a dead tree. Dead trees are lumber. Make a nice picnic table out of it and send it to OWS so they can have something new to cry about...or eat lunch on. Their choice.


21 posted on 10/29/2011 12:38:05 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hollow out a section and open “Bob's Sequoia Burgers.”
22 posted on 10/29/2011 12:39:12 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Did anyone hear it fall?


23 posted on 10/29/2011 12:39:13 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: DManA
The primary problem with these really big ones is when they fall the wood fractures all over the place making them unsuitable for lumber.

Now, the solution ~ a handicapped accessibility ramp with a quarter mile approach (given the height and all).

BTW, I've been there to this very site and have taken pictures where this one fell ~ 7 years ago!

24 posted on 10/29/2011 12:39:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The onset of the Medieval Warm Period and the passing of the Little Ice Age. It stood, unperturbed, through the Great War and the one that followed.

Then along came man-made global warming and...

/sarc, of course.

25 posted on 10/29/2011 12:40:11 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood. Seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cut a slice out of it the width of the trail, repair the trail, and display the slice at the visitor center to show the age of the trees in the park.


26 posted on 10/29/2011 12:40:37 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: jwalsh07

27 posted on 10/29/2011 12:41:37 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Fedupwithit

“we have become a country of absolute idiots!! “

We have least have a couple of states full of them it seems.

These people are beyond satire.


28 posted on 10/29/2011 12:41:37 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jwalsh07
BTW, how do you cut and split a 17 foot diameter tree?
Like this?
29 posted on 10/29/2011 12:41:39 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: muawiyah

WOW! That was a close call [ggggg]

Everyone should see these trees. They are so awesome. You can’t really believe what you’re looking at when you first see them.


30 posted on 10/29/2011 12:41:59 PM PDT by DManA
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To: muawiyah

“I’ve been there to this very site and have taken pictures where this one fell”.

Okay, fess up, Muawiyah! What did you do to that poor, innocent tree? /s


31 posted on 10/29/2011 12:42:30 PM PDT by momtothree
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The onset of the Medieval Warm Period and the passing of the Little Ice Age.

You mean the "Me Generation" really didn't invent "climate change" all by itself as they are claiming?

32 posted on 10/29/2011 12:43:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
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33 posted on 10/29/2011 12:44:34 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Fedupwithit

Gonna have to have a multi million dollar impact study before they can spend 30 million to remove it....

Have chainsaw can travel .....:o)


34 posted on 10/29/2011 12:44:41 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

auction it off.


35 posted on 10/29/2011 12:44:46 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: momtothree
Notice the writer has already anthropomorphised it with this sentence. It witnessed the arrival of the first European settlers... These giant trees die this way because they have a relatively shallow root system. They can live longer than almost any other life form on earth but for this one achilles heel. It is the reason some of the biggest are now fenced off from the public because too much tramping about around their base might create instability.
36 posted on 10/29/2011 12:45:05 PM PDT by xp38
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To: jwalsh07

37 posted on 10/29/2011 12:45:50 PM PDT by WSGilcrest (/s)
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To: Johnny B.
Thank you for the link. I had to bring one of the photos over here. The team of horses is a nice touch. (LARGER)


38 posted on 10/29/2011 12:46:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: FourPeas

So my 18inch chain saw and splitting axe along with my 60 year old back ain’t getting the job done? :-D


39 posted on 10/29/2011 12:46:36 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: DManA

It has been to big for a mill for a long time.


40 posted on 10/29/2011 12:46:56 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: Johnny B.

Nice link, thanks!


41 posted on 10/29/2011 12:47:33 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: jwalsh07

With a 10 foot chainsaw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdgMcbNwZ3o&feature=related


42 posted on 10/29/2011 12:48:32 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

We have a winner!


43 posted on 10/29/2011 12:48:32 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: mdittmar

You guys are really gonna piss off Frodo, Sam, Pippin, and
Meriadoc, not to mention Gandalf, he is really a great respector of the Noble Ents..


44 posted on 10/29/2011 12:49:53 PM PDT by late bloomer ( Neglegere homo pone aulaeum. semi-retired warlord)
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To: WSGilcrest

Granddaughter says I should get one of those. BTW she is the granddaughter that stacks my wood in the shed as I cut and split so she has skin in the game.


45 posted on 10/29/2011 12:49:55 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (t)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Patio furniture.


46 posted on 10/29/2011 12:50:26 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 101voodoo
"Make some REAL money by selling to the public one inch square pieces sealed in Lucite. The liberal weinies especially the greens will pay plenty. All money goes t the trsury for debt reduction. "

Cut it up for lumber, build some exclusive houses with it and sell the 'special' houses.

47 posted on 10/29/2011 12:51:14 PM PDT by blam
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
the mammoth sequoia had stood sentry since King Arthur's knights gathered at the Round Table.

Um...with Arthur, the round table and the knights being mostly fictional...when exactly was that?

48 posted on 10/29/2011 12:51:56 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Attacking Wall Street because you're jobless is like burning down Whole Foods because you're hungry.)
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To: jwalsh07

A wire saw could be used to cut it into managable sections, however I do like the above suggestion of selling little cubes of it. At ten bucks a pop you could make some serious bank.


49 posted on 10/29/2011 12:52:05 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: jwalsh07

Lookin’ at the weather, today’s probably a good day to have her haul some into the house.


50 posted on 10/29/2011 12:52:12 PM PDT by WSGilcrest (/s)
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