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AP source: Big East to invite Boise St, 5 others
AP ^ | 11/1/11 | RALPH D. RUSSO

Posted on 11/01/2011 7:20:47 PM PDT by Redmen4ever

PHILADELPHIA (AP)—The Big East is ready to start adding members...

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KEYWORDS: bcs; bigeast; boisestate; westvirginia
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The sticky wicket in the deal is that the Big 12 needs West Virginia to retain 10 teams and its big t.v. contract. But, West Virginia is contractually obligated to remain in the Big East for 27 months following the date it notifies the conference it's leaving. So, West Virginia is suing.

Possibly, the Big 12 could make an offer to the Big East sufficient for that conference to waive the waiting period, make the law suit go away, and be able to fulfill the terms of their t.v. contract.

The Big East would of course have to replace West Virginia for which there are several options.

The real beauty of this proposal is that Big East football would be greatly improved. It will lose one top twenty-five team (West Virginia), but pick up four top 25 teams (Boise State, Houston and SMU).

By picking off the best teams in the Mountain West and CUSA, it will solidify its position as the sixth best conference, whereas today it's maybe in a tie for that spot with the Mountain West and CUSA.

And, with twelve teams, it can host a football championship game at Yankee Stadium, a perfect complement to its basketball championship tournament in Madison Square Garden.

In terms of t.v. markets, it will lose Pittsburgh and Syracuse, but pick up Houston, Dallas and Orlando.

1 posted on 11/01/2011 7:20:51 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever

nebraska, oklahoma, colorado etc no longer produce good teams.


2 posted on 11/01/2011 7:25:12 PM PDT by ken21
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Boise St’s come a long way. Surprised the Big 12 doesn’t poach Houston.


3 posted on 11/01/2011 7:28:27 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Redmen4ever
These realignments are a mess. I like it better when conferences were geographically aligned. The last time I checked Boise is not in the East, or am I missing something.

All the conferences are trying to increase in size so as to have conference championship games. The SEC, ACC, Big 10 (with 12 teams), Big 12 (with 10 teams), PAC-12 (or is it 14, I lost count) now have championship games. Now the ACC wants to go to 16 teams, madness. What's happening here? No good is gonna come out of this.
4 posted on 11/01/2011 7:29:10 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Redmen4ever

The Big-not-so-East. Very Dumb


5 posted on 11/01/2011 7:29:40 PM PDT by frogjerk (Today is already the tomorrow which the bad economist yesterday urged us to ignore. - HAZLITT)
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Big East to invite Boise St. . . .

Well, I guess Boise is east of the Pacific.

That's a Really Big East.

6 posted on 11/01/2011 7:30:15 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Boise will be Boise.)
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To: truthguy
All the conferences are trying to increase in size so as to have conference championship games. The SEC, ACC, Big 10 (with 12 teams), Big 12 (with 10 teams), PAC-12 (or is it 14, I lost count) now have championship games. Now the ACC wants to go to 16 teams, madness. What's happening here? No good is gonna come out of this.

It's like the government, more cash, more lunacy.

7 posted on 11/01/2011 7:30:46 PM PDT by frogjerk (Today is already the tomorrow which the bad economist yesterday urged us to ignore. - HAZLITT)
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East is East, and West is East, and sometimes the twain shall meet.

Let's see, does the Big Ten have twelve teams now and the Big Twelve ten? I'm so confused.

8 posted on 11/01/2011 7:33:26 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Boise will be Boise.)
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But, the three teams that they would pick up from C-USA are not great basketball teams.

Have you ever heard of a Boise State Basketball team.

This BCS business is just insane.

9 posted on 11/01/2011 7:36:18 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: truthguy

I would hope the big east would insist on Boise removing that ridiculous blue rug from their stadium....


10 posted on 11/01/2011 7:36:51 PM PDT by cherry
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If the Big East adds Boise State and Cougar High (Houston) it will need to change its name. Big East will make as much sense as the 12-team Big 10 or the 10 team Big 12.

I would think that it would make more sense for Houston and SMU to be interested in joining the Big 12. TCU has already committed. With Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Houston and SMU, the Southern Conference of the Big 12 would resemble the old Southwest Conference.

The Big East is fine as a basketball conference, but has been one of the country’s least stable football conferences with BC, Virginia Tech, Miami, Pitt and Syracuse all bailing and Connecticut wanting out.

11 posted on 11/01/2011 7:37:00 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Redmen4ever

If you are not watching ESPN2, Toledo is leading Northern Illinois 60-56 with four minutes left. Yes, I am talking football.


12 posted on 11/01/2011 7:39:28 PM PDT by bwc2221
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“Houston and SMU to be interested in joining the Big 12. TCU has already committed. With Texas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Houston and SMU, the Southern Conference of the Big 12 would resemble the old Southwest Conference”

This would be so awesome. I hope it happens.

Pity A+M bailed, they’d get squashed.


13 posted on 11/01/2011 7:40:54 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: truthguy
The last time I checked Boise is not in the East, or am I missing something.

I would think it would be hard for Boise St. to maintain top 25 form for too many years.

14 posted on 11/01/2011 7:42:01 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (999er for Cain.)
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To: truthguy

I agree. Missouri is planning to move from the Big 12, where it is competitive (in football) to the SEC, where it will be a doormat. Colorado is the new whipping boy for the PAC 12.


15 posted on 11/01/2011 7:42:23 PM PDT by bwc2221
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“And, with twelve teams, it can host a football championship game at Yankee Stadium, a perfect complement to its basketball championship tournament in Madison Square Garden.”

The Meadowlands would make far more sense. Ever watch a football game in a baseball park? The sightlines suck

16 posted on 11/01/2011 7:46:47 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Redmen4ever

Should have gone with Southern Miss — competitive in the three major sports, but I know the TV market is too small. It’s a shame, because they have fine programs.


17 posted on 11/01/2011 7:50:20 PM PDT by cincinnati65 (We've been taken for a ride - by Wall Street and Washington DC - Welcome to Amerika!)
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Big 12 wants bigger schools. SMU and Houston wont’ happen. They need more national contenders, not bush leaguers.


18 posted on 11/01/2011 7:51:55 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: bwc2221

Or a baseball game in a football stadium (i.e. Metrodome)


19 posted on 11/01/2011 7:53:30 PM PDT by OrioleFan
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To: truthguy

Yeah. There is not one person or team to blame. Everyone is to blame. My area bracing to take a hit when Missouri runs off to the SEC. The Big 12 was supposed to implode. But the Pac-10 realized adding some of the best teams in the conference was not good for some of the teams there so they had a revolt and chose not the accept. That lead to saving the conference. But, Missouri found a cushy deal with SEC while the conference was to implode. Long story they are leaving.

So now the big 12 which at one time was looking to have some teams join the Big east is now trying to remain alive by piking off Big east schools. West Virginia just filed a lawsuit to leave the Big East. As you probably know.

Well now the Kansas City metro is bracing for changes. The Kansas side is thinking about picking off the basketball tournament. See officials unsure of keeping the tourney in KC if the Missouri team leaves.

Missouri started all this in a way because they wanted to leave in 09. Tried joining the Big Ten. That began two years of problems over revenue sharing and team threatening to leave.


20 posted on 11/01/2011 7:57:26 PM PDT by Mozilla
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I’m a fan of the big ten conference. What I would really like to see is minnesota kicked out, and syracuse added. Then I think I would drop one of the illinois teams(the one that isn’t as good I forget which one that is) and add notre dame. I know I know...good luck getting notre dame to sign onto any conference.


21 posted on 11/01/2011 7:59:38 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Charles Henrickson

Me, too, Reverend! The big (East) question is why they insist anymore on naming conferences according to number or geography? That’s instantly limiting. Why not, say, the Knute Rockne Conference, or the Liberty Conference, or some such? The Painful Groin Pull Conference? Sky’s the limit!


22 posted on 11/01/2011 8:02:01 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: ken21

don’t know what you’re smokin...both nebraska, oklahoma and oklahoma state are in the top 10


23 posted on 11/01/2011 8:03:34 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: JennysCool

how bout the “we’re the best and you suck” conference?


24 posted on 11/01/2011 8:06:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

is that good?

they used to dominate college football.


25 posted on 11/01/2011 8:11:56 PM PDT by ken21
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To: ken21

the season ain’t over yet


26 posted on 11/01/2011 8:14:00 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: truthguy

The Big 10 took a long time to go to 12. I think they did fine. Penn State was a indy at the time, and Nebraska left a Big 12 conference where there was a lot of dissension because of Texas wanting a special deal for its own t.v. network.


27 posted on 11/01/2011 8:15:55 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: mamelukesabre

ESSSS EEEE SEEEE


28 posted on 11/01/2011 8:18:41 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Boise State would be a football only school. Possibly it would re-join the WAC for other sports. Ditto with Air Force.

The big advantage to Boise State is joining a conference that has AQ status. Of course, the big advantage to the Big East is that Boise State would help it retain AQ status.


29 posted on 11/01/2011 8:18:51 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Charles Henrickson

The rumor is that while the football program will go to the Big East Conference, the rest of the athletic program is seeing membership in the Big WEST Conference (Long Beach State, Pacific, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, etc.)


30 posted on 11/01/2011 8:22:07 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: mamelukesabre

Works for me!


31 posted on 11/01/2011 8:22:07 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: BenKenobi

BWAHAHAHA

whatever. LSU and alabama are going down! In two weeks neither one will be in the top 5.


32 posted on 11/01/2011 8:24:14 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

At least both are the best team in their respective states, unlike the Sooners. :)

Watching Texas Tech win on the road was cathartic.


33 posted on 11/01/2011 8:28:28 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: bwc2221

The Big East has been kind of a stepping stone conference, hasn’t it? I wouldn’t be surprised if this continues in the future. Clearly, the flagships of our country’s state university systems are fine schools. North Carolina, Michigan, Texas, Arizona. These are great schools. And, the top privates, like Stanford and Notre Dame. Them too. But, this is America, and over time other schools will percolate up. Florida is, today, a very big state. No wonder Miami (a private) moved up, via the Big East, to the ACC. Now we have South Florida and Central Florida (publics) building fine sports programs. Let a thousand flower blossom.


34 posted on 11/01/2011 8:29:51 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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texas?...blech

It aint a football team unless their stadium gets snow every season.


35 posted on 11/01/2011 8:34:21 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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36 posted on 11/01/2011 8:36:46 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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Well I like Boise, all the TX teams and chaos.

So I’ll be rooting against Stanford and Okie State.

Who’s your team?


37 posted on 11/01/2011 8:42:19 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: JennysCool
The Painful Groin Pull Conference?

Would the champion of the Painful Groin Pull Conference play in the Ci-truss Bowl?

38 posted on 11/01/2011 8:44:25 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Below the Sun Belt.)
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To: BenKenobi

The situation in the Big 12 is a bit in flux largely because Texas got a special deal for its own television network. Geographically, Houston and SMU to the Big 12 makes sense. However, the scuttlebutt is that Texas would object to giving Houston the appearance of parity and the Big 12 just entered the Dallas-Ft. Worth market with TCU. SMU is indicated to formally accept the offer on Friday. However, I don’t see any such report with regard to Houston.


39 posted on 11/01/2011 8:50:24 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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TCU in and Nebraska out is a plus for me. I like TCU.

Why is everyone’s nose out of joint about the Longhorns network? There’s nothing stopping them from signing similar deals. Especially the Sooners.


40 posted on 11/01/2011 8:54:52 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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It is amazing how good is the SEC. Five national titles in a row. Some of those games were not even competitive. This year we could see two SEC teams in the BCS Championship Game. And wasn’t “The Blind Side” one of the best movies of recent years?


41 posted on 11/01/2011 8:59:18 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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I’d rather see chaos reign and an SEC - Boise title game.

That’s why I want stanford and Okie St to go down.


42 posted on 11/01/2011 9:03:26 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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How about an all (future) Big East National Championship Game of Houston and Boise State?


43 posted on 11/01/2011 9:13:52 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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We’ve had TCU vs BSU. That’s kinda lame.

I’d rather see LSU vs BSU for the National championship.


44 posted on 11/01/2011 9:15:38 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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Teasips are afraid of Houston


45 posted on 11/01/2011 9:20:22 PM PDT by 38special (For real...)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Ha! And ouch!


46 posted on 11/01/2011 10:15:27 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: BenKenobi

I have nostalgia for all the old big 8 conference teams except colorado.
I like any team that likes to run the ball and expertly implements the option play and doesn’t rely on a few star players for success. I think that narrows it down to about ZERO teams nowdays with one honorable mention...Huskers.


47 posted on 11/02/2011 9:04:02 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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Remind me, how are the Huskers doing in the Junior conference.


48 posted on 11/02/2011 12:00:58 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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Junior conference? haha!

they’re rated number 9 in the nation, funny guy. One loss so far and most likely will finish the season, win whatever conference championship game there might be, and play a bowl game with no more losses. I think they will probably end up something like #5 in the nation. Maybe a little better if the right teams suffer an upset between now and then.


49 posted on 11/02/2011 1:41:04 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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So what you are saying if they do everything right they could, just absolutely might be as good as Boise? Wow. Phenomenal. :p


50 posted on 11/02/2011 2:46:46 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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