Posted on 11/03/2011 1:41:48 PM PDT by mgstarr
Note to tourists visting New York: Don't be caught out without your ID, or you could be caught in the city's penal system for days, if the recent experience of 21-year-old college student Samantha Zucker is anything to go by.
Actually, Zucker, barely qualifies as an out-of-towner, since she hails from the Westchester town of Ardmore. And the underlying charge that led to her tour in jail was a minor trespassing citation, dismissed by a presiding judge in no time.
But no matter: A vigilant NYPD officer deemed her a sufficient threat to public safety to have her handcuffed and jailed in two different cells across the length of Manhattan.
The whole ordeal began with a trip to Riverside Park [snip] she spent a long day on Oct. 21 scouting out prospective employment scenarios in New York's sprawling fashion industry. After pounding the pavement, she dropped off her bags at her West Harlem hotel. From there, she and fellow student Alex Fischer decided to stroll over to Riverside Park, to gaze out on the Hudson.
[snip]
Zucker and Fischer explained that they hadn't known of the park's curfew, and turned around to leave. By then, however, another NYPD car appeared, and the officer driving it announced he was citing them for trespassing, and demanded their IDs. Fischer produced his driver's license and was let go--but Zucker had left her identification back at the hotel, two blocks away. She apologized, and told the officer that she could have Fischer or another friend fetch it.
But no dice. "He said it was too late for that, I should have thought of it earlier," she told Dwyer. At that point, as Dwyer writes, the wheels of justice locked grimly into gear; Zucker was handcuffed and led into a surreal maze of detention:
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I demand you show me your papers!
At least one was not summarily shot for not having papers.
Yet.
I’d certainly contact the nearest lawyer to see how this can be rectified.
She could have lost her job, if she has one, and this can also have an undue effect on her college grades.
If you get popped for something and can’t or won’t show
ID to the nice officer, the nice officer can indeed conduct
your sweet backside to the hoosegow.
That’s pretty much how it works anywhere, not just Fun City.
-PJ
Why should this be a suprise. The cops can hold ANYONE for up to 48 hours without charges.
Can’t seem to find an Ardmore NY.
-PJ
Crack reporting, I'd guess.
-PJ
“If you get popped for something and can’t or won’t show
ID to the nice officer, the nice officer can indeed conduct
your sweet backside to the hoosegow.”
I think you just have to identify yourself as in name, rank and serial number unless you’re engaged in motorizing.
I would say not guilty.
What if you don't HAVE ID?
The Dems make a big deal about not needing ID to vote, but here we have a case where not having ID means you spend a couple of days in jail?
And the law requiring “papers” is where, now?
That’s pretty much how it works anywhere, not just Fun City.
You mean fascist city? No, that's not "pretty much how it works anywhere."
It's total bullshit. I don't have to be carrying an ID to walk around this country in public. There was no reasonable cause for the arrest, except the cop being a Tyrannical asshole.
Additionally, the ID could apparently have been retrieved within a few short minutes, being only two blocks away. Too much bother for a NYPD cop, I guess.
Better to waste huge amounts of time and public resources ferrying this "criminal" back and forth across town for a couple of days, and then having a judge with some sense summarily dismiss the charge.
It astounds me what some people are willing to submit to, all in the holy name of "law and order." It's downright un-American.
Butt crack reporting I’d say.
Twice, she said, the officer told her not to call him by a specific foul term.Methinks the officer got the impression that this white suburban girl called him a name, and didn't like being "disrespected".“I said, ‘Sir, I never used that word.’ ”
No doubt he was hearing things: the unspoken truth about his unspeakable actions.
It’s my understanding that the cop has to have cause to lock you up. He just cannot lock up a person because it’s Tuesday.
The only legitimate thing I can think of in this situation is that a crime might have been committed in the area and, because the girl couldn’t show I’d, the cop might have held her until her identity could be ascertained.
Having said that, I think the proper procedure in this situation is that the cop should have brought her in and allowed her to phone somebody to get her I’d and the whole thing could have been cleared up that night.
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