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Was Jack the Ripper a prominent London abortionist? Well, maybe
LifeSiteNews ^ | 11-3-11 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 11/03/2011 9:45:21 PM PDT by ReformationFan

It’s one of the most notorious unsolved mysteries in history: who was Jack the Ripper, the Victorian serial killer who surgically disemboweled five prostitutes in the fall of 1888?

According to claims that are currently getting a great deal of media attention in Britain, he may be none other than prominent surgeon Sir John Williams – who, in addition to serving as Queen Victoria’s surgeon in London, was also a well-known abortionist.

In a new book, Sir John’s great-great-great-great nephew, Tony Williams, presents evidence for Sir John’s guilt, including his discovery of a six-inch surgical knife among his ancestor’s possessions that he believes was the murder weapon.

The knife was found along with three glass slides that, according to tests performed on them, contain smears of a uterus.

“The person who carried out the killings had significant medical knowledge and Sir John was an accomplished surgeon,” said Williams, pointing out that he “routinely performed abortions on women.”

There is also evidence that Sir John – who was known as “Uncle Jack” by his relatives - was acquainted with at least one of the prostitutes: he may have performed an abortion on one of them, Mary Ann Nicholls, three years prior to the murders.

(Excerpt) Read more at lifesitenews.com ...


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionist; abortions; britain; crime; england; godsgravesglyphs; jacktheripper; london; murderer; prolife; uk; victoria
It certainly would explain a lot.
1 posted on 11/03/2011 9:45:23 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

I read over 40 years ago that these were probably botched abortions.


2 posted on 11/03/2011 10:09:53 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

A botched abortion doesn’t explain what happened to Mary Kelly. Also there’s a lot of dispute over whether or not Jack the Ripper had extensive medical knowledge.


3 posted on 11/03/2011 10:23:57 PM PDT by JMS
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To: ReformationFan

whoever did it was a Freemason, from the clues (as warnings to other masons) left at the scene.


4 posted on 11/03/2011 10:31:27 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: JMS
there’s a lot of dispute over whether or not Jack the Ripper had extensive medical knowledge.

Indeed. so what does this make, suspect number one hundred and...

5 posted on 11/03/2011 10:34:14 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Ah, the old Hope-a-Dope.)
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To: ReformationFan
In a new book, Sir John’s great-great-great-great nephew, Tony Williams, presents evidence for Sir John’s guilt, including his discovery of a six-inch surgical knife among his ancestor’s possessions that he believes was the murder weapon.

A surgeon had a knife. How unusual. /s

6 posted on 11/03/2011 10:38:03 PM PDT by Huntress ("Politicians exploit economic illiteracy." --Walter Williams)
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To: Huntress

Oh don’t get me started on this one....


7 posted on 11/03/2011 11:04:32 PM PDT by gman992 ("I'm a conservative. I'm just a happy conservative.")
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To: gman992

We will never know for sure but the Jack the Ripper story is interesting to me because my ancestors lived in that area during the time of his reign of terror.


8 posted on 11/03/2011 11:37:23 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Not even close.


9 posted on 11/04/2011 12:08:16 AM PDT by stormer
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To: ReformationFan

Abortionists could care less about women - they don’t hate them violently. Jack left these women like fully gutted deer.

He wasn’t after money, undesireables reduction (not enough victims) or stealing souls from God. He was just psycho hateful.

This relative needs to get a life - his own.


10 posted on 11/04/2011 12:31:26 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: gman992

Exactly what I was thinking.. I’ll just say this wasn’t the guy.


11 posted on 11/04/2011 1:48:34 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: ReformationFan

Already solved;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKGicNPeKtw


12 posted on 11/04/2011 1:54:46 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: ReformationFan

Not sure if this is a new book. I could swear I read ‘Uncle Jack’ a couple of years ago. The book is utterly unconvincing. Almost as unconvincing as Patricia Cornwell’s atrocious attempt to finger the artist Walter Sickert as Jack.

We’ll never know who he really was.


13 posted on 11/04/2011 2:52:45 AM PDT by Tredegar
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To: Tredegar
Almost as unconvincing as Patricia Cornwell’s atrocious attempt to finger the artist Walter Sickert as Jack.

I'm about half way through her book right now.

Whether Sickert was the Ripper or not, the mutilations the Ripper performed on these women certainly didn't require him being a surgeon.

14 posted on 11/04/2011 4:09:30 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

You’re quite right Vinnie. The problem with Cornwell is she started with a solution, and tried to cobble together (VERY dubious) evidence to fit her theory, rather than the other way around. Still not sure how Cornwell has the gall to dodge the fact that Sickert appears to have been in France during the murders. Prepare to be disappointed with that book.

Sickert and the nonsensical ‘Royal Conspiracy’ drive me up the wall. The case is fascinating enough without the need for fantasy.


15 posted on 11/05/2011 1:07:47 AM PDT by Tredegar
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To: ReformationFan; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

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Thanks ReformationFan. These often get added, but seldom pinged because they're of modern history, but this is imho sufficienctly fascinating. :')

He was actually seen in the vicinity of one of the murders, and that proximity was previously seen as evidence that the Duke of Clarence was Jack the Ripper. :')

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


16 posted on 11/05/2011 5:51:27 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: kelly4c
my ancestors lived in that area during the time of his reign of terror.

...and you haven't come forward to name them as suspects yet???

17 posted on 11/05/2011 6:05:16 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Ping!


18 posted on 11/05/2011 6:14:34 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: ReformationFan

Interesting show on National Geographic channel today which had some modern forensic pathologists, forenensic pyschiatrists, etc. examine the case.

The leader turned his attention to reports of some similar cases that occurred in NYC after the Whitechapel murders stopped—on the thory that serial killers don’t stop voluntarily. A German seaman was caught and confessed to the NYC crimes and the rest of the show focused on proving the German was possibly in London at the time and was the Ripper.

This conclusion conveniently bypassed the parricipants earlier conclusions that someone without medical training of some kind couldn’t possibly have performed the mutilation and precise removal of organs in the dark and in a short time.

The show also revealed that at least 103 people have been named as suspects as the Ripper in various books and treatises. Ripper books, tv shows and theories continue to be the most popular form of ‘true crime’ genres.


19 posted on 11/05/2011 1:45:44 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: wildbill; ReformationFan
Ripper books, tv shows and theories continue to be the most popular form of ‘true crime’ genres.

I think the Ripper stories have always remained popular due to the fact that many of the suspects have direct links to the British royal family and were prominent in Victorian England. Additionally, the Ripper was the first publicized serial killer.

20 posted on 11/05/2011 5:55:26 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
Abortionists could care less about women - they don’t hate them violently. Jack left these women like fully gutted deer.

If the women died from complications from an abortion, an autopsy might discover the cause and point police to looking for an abortionist doctor -- unless the body was so mutilated that no such autopsy finding could be done.

I'm not saying I believe the story, but it seems as plausible as many explanations I've heard.

21 posted on 11/05/2011 6:00:52 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: Tredegar

“Still not sure how Cornwell has the gall to dodge the fact that Sickert appears to have been in France during the murders.”

That and the fact that if the Ripper wrote all those letters to the police as alleged by Cornwall he wouldn’t have enough time to be out a-rippin’!

(there were over 600 letters know today, from all sorts of postal places; London, France, Sweden, Germany, USA...)


22 posted on 11/19/2011 9:06:59 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: kelly4c

“...my ancestors lived in that area during the time of his reign of terror”

any stories passed down in your family?


23 posted on 12/15/2011 10:01:59 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: kelly4c

Same here. The Kosminski suspect was even in the workhouse during the same year as one of my ancestors from the area. Her husband, my great X? grandfather ran a lodging house in the East end.


24 posted on 09/09/2014 12:44:25 AM PDT by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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