Skip to comments.The Day the Engineers Turned Against California HSR
Posted on 11/04/2011 1:51:22 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
On Tuesday, the California High-Speed Rail Authority laid down their cards in the form of a new business plan for the proposed line, and its cards are not good the system is now projected to cost $98 billion in year-of-expenditure dollars, which, taking into account inflation, is about twice the $33 billion figure given in 2008.* But despite the price hike, not many peoples opinions on the project seem to have changed those who were for it are still for it, while those opposed are even more set against it.
Everyone, that is, except the engineers. I dont mean actual engineers, but rather the technical transit activists that Alon Levy has identified before. Technical transit activists stand in opposition to the politicals, which include most mainstream transit advocates and the majority of transit blogs, especially the (relatively) well-financed ones. They tend to be the most boosterish, and view funding rather than competence as the main obstacle to good transit. The technicals, on the other hand, often come from math and hard science backgrounds (Alon is a math PhD and Richard Mlynarik is a pedigreed hacker), and are much pickier about which projects they support.
And after Tuesdays announcement, it seems, Californias high-speed rail line is no longer something technicals support.
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Even leaving aside the questionable viability of the proposed HSR system for California, the sheer amounts of waste in the proposal is shocking.
“I dont mean actual engineers,...”.
“Actual Engineers” = with an Engineering degree AND a Professional Engineer’s License, or the locomotive operators?
Most State laws require licensure of anyone holding themselves forth as an “Engineer” (not the train-operator type)
Good to know that "technicals" engineers are the criminals in the Public Transportation unions.
What a great place to build High Speed railroad tunnels; our own Earth Quake Central in the City the Waits to Die.
A stupid waste of money in a city that believes in the continuous improvement of their stupidity.
How come there was nothing said about the cost of fighting the environmental activist in court over the Desert Tortes and the Black Winged Flirting Warbler.
No state licensure required for Software Engineers... :)
Here’s one for the kids:
1) $98B at 5% interest for 30 years, how much is that monthly payment?
2) If there are 37M people in California, how much would that cost EVERY SINGLE PERSON every year in extra taxes?
3) If only people who pay CA income tax are counted, how much would it cost each of those taxpayers every single year, in addition to what they already pay?
I, for one would be all for the idea IF they turned the project over, lock stock & barrel, to Taggart Transcontinental & let Dagney run things.