Skip to comments.Italian scientist claims he has achieved 'cold fusion'
Posted on 11/05/2011 12:58:45 AM PDT by Kevmo
Andrea Rossi says his new machine fuses nickel and hydrogen at room temperature creating almost unlimited energy .
But there is one problem - many scientists claim it defies the very laws of physics. Several high-profile demonstrations of 'cold fusion' have been proven to be hoaxes in the past - and no one can adequately explain how or why it might work .
The United States Department of Energy the U.S. Patent Office say the process is impossible because physics rules out the possibility of room-temperature nuclear fusion .
But Rossi's E-Cat machine can allegedly do it, and he says he proved it worked during tests at the University of Bologna last month .
Key: Rossi says he has produced a pattern of triple track atoms, pictured, which is at the heart of the cold fusion theory
'We have nothing to say, just to make plans that work properly and let those facts win against the scepticism.'
Sterling Allan, CEO of the alternative energy news agency Pure Energy Systems, told FoxNews.com he attended Rossis demonstration and the E-Cat is self sustaining .
'What Rossi demonstrated was 470 kilowatts of continuous output in self-sustain mode -- meaning the output was enough to keep the thing running on its own,' he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Not an issue. Nuclear regulators are concerned with radioactive substances. There’s nothing for them to regulate here. Neither the reactants (Hydrogen, Nickel) or the product (Copper and according to analysis but not the patent, Iron) are radioactive. Gamma radiation is electromagnetic, so there’s nothing to see there, so to speak.
124Sn (weight 123.9052739) + 63Cu (weight 62.9295975) might produce 187Au (weight 186.964568), but the mass of the input atoms (186.8348714) is less than the mass of the output by 0.1296966 amu, which means you would need an input energy of 121 MeV to make it happen.
The nickel-to-copper reaction, OTOH, appears like it would have a net output energy of at least 6 MeV (my math on this thread)
How can we be sure of that? Rossi's number one fan says Rossi's demos are non-scientific and that he sucks (Kevmo's word) at giving them. And have they come out with a reason why the output was only at half rating? Perhaps the generator wasn't big enough.
Or you must assume that they were incompetent fools.
Shills and nutballs is more like it.
They are all probably getting money from Rossi.
There have? Let’s see the references ~
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This is a less than serious site!
They have this theory that it is ONLY through heavy proton or neutron bombardment that you can get fusion ~ real fusion ~ something you can stick your fingers in.
I have been quite startled at the number of people who claim to be trained in the Four Fundamental Forces of the Universe who did not read about The Weak Nuclear Force and "tunneling" ~ an otherwise commonly understood phenomenon that occurs because matter is energy, and visa versa!
Seriously guys, the smart people have been working over their descriptions of the Four Forces and how they work for decades and there are easy to understand websites that can readily enlighten almost anyone who can read.
I have a retarded friend I'm going to pass the Weak Force stuff past and see if he can deal with it. My guess is he can.
Edison found plenty of customers for his lightbulbs. That was in a time before Einstein had a chance to pontificate.
Gamma radiation is electromagnetic, so theres nothing to see there, so to speak.Really?!?
Using the traditional, well-established equations for this nuclear reaction, Rossi's E-Cat ought to be putting out enough gamma radiation to kill everyone in the room in a matter of hours, or even minutes. And, the amount of lead shielding he claims to be using is totally inadequate to stop those gamma rays.
Rossi himself claims that his device works by "unknown nuclear reactions" (from his patent application), so he can't explain how it works, or how safe or unsafe it is.
If his device really is a nuclear reactor (as Rossi claims) and no one, including Rossi, understands how it works, it is reckless to allow them to be sold as though they are ordinary boilers. In the U.S., at least, you can't even sell ordinary 1MW boilers without government permits.
Of course, if Rossi's device doesn't really do what Rossi claims, then there is no reason he would be worried about getting certification for his "Mr. Fusion".
If, so, that is the only thing he hasn't faked ...
“If you assume that everyone else is as uninformed and gullible as you are, then I suppose you would assume that they would be as easily fooled. But in fact, there is no reason to suppose that the observers and participants in this demonstration were either uneducated incompetents, fools, or knaves.”
Five convictions for fraud.
IF you arent interested in the subject or the inventor then find another thread to squat on.I'm very interested in the subject. It isn't every day that you get to see a major scam unfolding before your very eyes.
Kevmo is a big INTRADE player.
As Kevmo says of Rossi’s test data ... it must be a typo.
(In reference to the 13,000+ kg H2 container that was weighed to an accuracy of about 1/4 gram on a bathroom scale that was calibrated by two people that knew their weight.)
Kevmo is a big-time INTRADE player who has a long history of spamming for his trading.
Kevmo is also a promoter in the homeopathic medicine scam.
Mortadella is cold fusion of a sort too, and the Italians already achieved that.
It is also theroretically possible that your post was the result of random sequences of electron pulses and not actually written by a person. But one must consider the odds of that happening.
You didn't see the video!
In conventional reactions the energy is released in one large bang. Think of a rock falling through air to a concrete sidewalk. The rock hits the sidewalk in one large bang. Now in Rossi's
contraption reactor, it is more like a rock falling through water. Energy is released slowing as the rock falls so there is no hard gamma. Only soft gammas which are easily shielded.
I was at a county fair back in the 70's. This guy in a booth was play a scam and the suckers were literaly pushing each other out of the way in order to get their money in. I remember seeing one dude with his wallet in one hand trying to give the guy money as the dudes wife had him by the other arm trying to pull him away!
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