Posted on 11/05/2011 12:58:45 AM PDT by Kevmo
Andrea Rossi says his new machine fuses nickel and hydrogen at room temperature creating almost unlimited energy .
But there is one problem - many scientists claim it defies the very laws of physics. Several high-profile demonstrations of 'cold fusion' have been proven to be hoaxes in the past - and no one can adequately explain how or why it might work .
The United States Department of Energy the U.S. Patent Office say the process is impossible because physics rules out the possibility of room-temperature nuclear fusion .
But Rossi's E-Cat machine can allegedly do it, and he says he proved it worked during tests at the University of Bologna last month .
Key: Rossi says he has produced a pattern of triple track atoms, pictured, which is at the heart of the cold fusion theory
'We have nothing to say, just to make plans that work properly and let those facts win against the scepticism.'
Sterling Allan, CEO of the alternative energy news agency Pure Energy Systems, told FoxNews.com he attended Rossis demonstration and the E-Cat is self sustaining .
'What Rossi demonstrated was 470 kilowatts of continuous output in self-sustain mode -- meaning the output was enough to keep the thing running on its own,' he said.
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He says the shielding stops the rays. He is going to have to transport it as a radioactive device.That's an interesting point. If current theory is correct, then the amount of shielding he used is totally inadequate.
If current theory is wrong, then we have no idea what Rossi's device is capable of doing. Maybe if you wire something up backwards it will blow up, taking an entire city with it. Rossi can't claim that it's safe if he can't explain how it operates.
Of course, if the water is being heated by a known but hidden electrical or chemical reaction, then the E-Cat is no more dangerous than a "normal" large boiler along with any danger unique to how he's faking his demos.
There were several people on the vortex email list who were genuinely concerned that the E-Cat (regardless of what else it was) was a poorly-designed boiler and that it might explode during the demonstration. Fortunately, it didn't actually come anywhere near to its rated power level, and could have actually produced as little as 70KW of power, based on Rossi's own data.
Did you realize that almost every 40 ft, 50ft and 60 ft box on the road already has on board strain gauges that allow state enforcement officers to run around out in the country tapping them as they seek to evade standard weigh stations.
BTW, we decided to not buy one at that time. On the other hand we were reduced to buying points for our antiquated 100 ton beam balances from a custom shop in Brazil. He's was cheap but how long was he going to be in business making antiques.
The device that computes the weight is much more important.
Whatever you say. I tried to still-frame the video to see the model number of the genset, and consequently its capacity, and couldn’t do it. The manufacturer info was just out of frame.
When I said that the genset was rated at 500 kWh, I meant 500 kW. I have a 13.5 kW genset at home, actually, and yes, the figure was taken from the other observer’s report. I can tell you that the genset shown in the video is dramatically larger than my home genset.
Try to explain away the connected genset any way you want, but it stinks to high heaven, just like everything else associated with Rossi.
Rossi used a bathroom scale to measure a 13,000 plus kg H2 vessel. Stay on topic.
Please show me the specs for a strain gauge that will read to one part in a billion as you stated AND then show that it can be put in a $50 bathroom scale. Thanks.
Sometimes I have read something twice to make sure that the person really wrote such nonsense.
The weight capacity has NOTHING to do with this technology. You stick a copper wire through a steel block, you can read the current ~ and depending how many times (1 million, 100,000 or 10) you will get different qualities of signal out of that load cell.
You use a couple of pieces of polymer with a brass foil in the center, your quality will still depend more on your chip than on the load cell/strain gauge.
If I were putting together a bathroom scale I'd buy them by the hundreds of thousands and probably pay about 25% of what you'd pay for just one. The rest of the outfit can be put together in a toy manufacturing shop in Hong Kong or Guandung. They do all that sort of thing these days.
Assuming you don't set fire to the equipment the sensitivity of this form of weighing is dependent on deformation of an electric current. Good current ~ > Good signal.
The Postal sampling scales we were buying initially cost over $1000 a pop, but as that technology became more common that price dropped into the hundreds ~ but with a Postal Scale you need multiple read-outs and a set of precision leveling screws PLUS a set of standard weights ~ and they cost some money too.
Your typical bathroom scale can be calibrated at the factory and has a need for only one read out. It's also not varying the number of measurements taken so it can give you a weight with confidence to 6 digits to the right of the decimal point. But it could if you put in the read-outs and the balance screws.
Radioactive: Emitting energy waves due to decaying atomic nuclei.
If it does not contain materials that spontaneously fission, then it is not a radioactive device. If it only emits high-energy photons when turned on, then it is no more a radioactive device than an x-ray machine is.
If it only emits high-energy photons when turned on, then it is no more a radioactive device than an x-ray machine is.You can't sell x-ray machines without extensive testing and certification. They can, and have, killed people when they were out of specifications, or when their operators or software operated them incorrectly.
Why would Rossi's device be exempt from similar rules and restrictions?
BS.
Censorship is a liberal tactic. Communist actually.
I never suggested for anyone not to post their opinion. Just to not bother reading his post if someone finds the subject at hand so worthless.
Advocating for Kevmo to not post Cold Fusion related material is censorship.
Nice regurgitation of the "hot physics" meme about cold fusion. Unfortunately, there have been quite a few replications, many very recently. And done by researchers who are completely above board and legit.
"A hoax is a deliberately fabricated falsehood made to masquerade as truth. It is distinguishable from errors in observation or judgment."
So, based on that criterion, please point out ANY true hoax involving CF. As I said, I've been following the subject for quite a few years, and I'm not aware of anything that has been a actual hoax.
It's fairly obvious from MANY experiments (not just Rossi) that CF doesn't follow the "traditional, well-established equations for this nuclear reaction". And since I've not seen any information on what the gamma spectrum of the E-Cat looks like as far as gamma energy, I know darned well you have no way to tell whether "the amount of lead shielding he claims is totally inadequate to stop those gamma rays". Rossi says "weak gammas" on the same energy order as x-rays., which don't take a gigantic amount of shielding.
Note....part of my grad school background is in nuclear science, so I have actually done shielding calculations (one of my courses was "Introduction to Nuclear Engineering", which had a section of shielding design and calculations), and know what is involved.
Nothing for the NRC to regulate, I mean. Silly me, I presumed that the machine would come with shielding.
And with a far lower mortadellity rate than tradition fission reactors.
“Advocating for Kevmo to not post Cold Fusion related material is censorship.”
Nice try at spin. I’m not advocating he not post about Cold Fusion news. I am advocating that he stop spamming FR with blog posts in the news section about Rossi’s scam.
I bet that went right over your head.
...encouraging for the cold fusion technology. Can you provide web links in connection with these successful replications?
Still looking forward to long term positive results from the cold fusion demonstrations.
Search on {"George Miley" cold fusion}, {"Brian Ahern" cold fusion} and {"Edmund Storms" cold fusion} (omitting the curly brackets, of course). Also "Brillouin Energy". Some of these are much lower energy than Rossi is getting, but others are in the same ballpark. Also Sergio Focardi's old partner Piantelli has just released information for results rivalling Rossi's.
“Please post the source for the claim of gammas, as it is highly significant.”
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/VillaMonthegamma.pdf
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