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Posted on 11/08/2011 5:30:57 AM PST by wolfman23601

Conventional wisdom is that if you don't vote, you can't complain. I have come to the conclusion that I disagree. By vote voting, you are in fact voting for none of the above. In the Virginia House, my race is between a liberal democrat and an establishment GOP puppet who has no accomplishments of his own and has never stood on his own two feet. The incumbant retired and the new candidate is a handoff ripe for more graft. In the Virginia senate, it is a liberal democrat against a restaurant owner that wants more toll roads. I simply can't vote for any of these people. Would it send a better message to cast a blank ballot or sit it out completely?


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1 posted on 11/08/2011 5:30:59 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601
I would vote with a write-in. Not voting will not send a message, since the voting percentage is incredibly low on non-Presidential election years.

I am starting to wonder what I will do in 2012 the way things are going... It's a pity.

2 posted on 11/08/2011 5:34:29 AM PST by LBG11
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To: wolfman23601

Write in someone’s name. Your own or ‘none of the above’.

If enough people feel the same way - maybe there will have to be a run-off.


3 posted on 11/08/2011 5:34:46 AM PST by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: wolfman23601
Quite frankly, we don't care what you do.
But if you don't vote, don't complain.
4 posted on 11/08/2011 5:35:51 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: wolfman23601

There’s no random libertarian you can vote for? It’s a throwaway, but like someone else said, it at least lets them know you’re there.


5 posted on 11/08/2011 5:36:34 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: wolfman23601

Unless a race is decided by one vote, your vote is meaningless anyway. I’ve never cast a meaningful vote. I could have stayed home every single time and nothing would be different.


6 posted on 11/08/2011 5:37:11 AM PST by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: wolfman23601

Write in your own name


7 posted on 11/08/2011 5:37:25 AM PST by Nifster
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To: wolfman23601
I simply can't vote for any of these people. Would it send a better message to cast a blank ballot or sit it out completely?

If you have to ask strangers, does it matter?

8 posted on 11/08/2011 5:38:30 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: wolfman23601
Would it send a better message to cast a blank ballot or sit it out completely?

I would rather see people write in the name of a conservative, even if not eligible due to write-in laws of your state.

If you are trying to send a message, be clear what the message is. Otherwise, the powers in charge of the parties make a valid claim that other don't care, since they don't vote.

9 posted on 11/08/2011 5:38:37 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: wolfman23601

You would be amazed at how few people vote in these types of elections

You COULD influence the outcome if you go to the polls and try to convince people to viote for the same write in candidate


10 posted on 11/08/2011 5:39:48 AM PST by Mr. K (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.)
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To: wolfman23601

Tantrums are for two year olds.

Your actions send no message and only empower the liberals.

Back the lesser of 2 evils and work harder for CONSERVATIVE candidates earlier in the nominating stage, next time.

If Obama is re-elected, it will be the end of our Constitutional Republic.


11 posted on 11/08/2011 5:40:39 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: wolfman23601

You could have done a write-in. It would only have been a footnote but you would have exercised a civic duty.


12 posted on 11/08/2011 5:40:58 AM PST by esoteric
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To: wolfman23601
I voted against three tax increases and marked out all the candidates to show a no vote for all candidates and fix it so no one could mark my ballot if it was blank.
13 posted on 11/08/2011 5:42:53 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: wolfman23601
“Would it send a better message to cast a blank ballot or sit it out completely?”

“Sitting it out completely” could be interpreted as being happy with the status quo. Besides, aren't there any other issues to vote on, local taxes or something?

I once voted (write in) for the local weather girl because I didn't like either of the candidates.

14 posted on 11/08/2011 5:44:30 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: wolfman23601
"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation, to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." - John Jay

"Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual - or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country." - Samuel Adams

I have determined that I will not vote for anyone who is not a Christian and a righteous one at that. I would rather cast my vote for a small party Christian candidate who has no chance of winning than for a fraud who does.

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

15 posted on 11/08/2011 5:45:52 AM PST by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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To: wolfman23601

All democrats are socialists.


16 posted on 11/08/2011 5:46:42 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: wolfman23601

No matter what, don’t turn over state and local elections to democrats.

You will be sorry.


17 posted on 11/08/2011 5:47:53 AM PST by dforest
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To: wolfman23601
These folks voted with their lives so you could vote with a ballot...

...you should be ashamed of yourself.

18 posted on 11/08/2011 5:49:13 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: wolfman23601

I’m in Virginia and I will most certainly be voting.

Because we are a constitutional republic does not mean you are always going to have great choices. More often than not, a 2 party system like ours will result in 2 seriously flawed candidates. You can either vote or sit out and shut up since you did nothing to make a difference one way or the other. Stop crying because the choices aren’t satisfying enough for you.

At stake in the Virginia election is our Senate. If we control the Senate then McDonnell will be able to force through a more conservative agenda. Sitting out and whining is utterly stupid.

Get it OUT of you’re head that there are going to be a Reagan-like candidates on the ballot very often - if ever again in your lifetime. More often than not your choice is going to be the lesser of 2 evils. That’s just how 2 party systems work. Winning back the state Senate today is a very big deal for the future of Virginia. If you refuse to help make a difference, then please shut up till you get your act together and vote.


19 posted on 11/08/2011 5:49:22 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: wolfman23601
There is an argument to be made for choking down the excrement sandwich and casting a party line vote.

You must consider the bigger picture of legislative control. Yeah, the RINO candidate who might side with the RATs 8 times out of 10 makes you want to scream but s/he still carries an R by their name. Would his or her presence change the balance of power in their chamber? Make a difference in gathering a quorum?

Imagine if Jumpin' Jim Jeffords didn't change control of the US Senate, if there were enough R's in Texas or Wisconsin that the D's could all head out of dodge but a quorum could still be mustered. Imagine if control of the Supreme Court was at risk ...

Plenty of good reasons to choke the sandwich down, remembering that you like bread even if the filling leaves a bad taste in your mouth. (But if none of the above apply, M. Mouse is a perrenial write-in vote getter).

The time to fight the RINO battle is in the primary and there are greater concerns in the general. Mangia.

20 posted on 11/08/2011 5:49:31 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Thanks... I think I’ll cast the blank ballot. Unfortunately, there aren’t any third party candidates or ballot initiatives this year. I am in SE Virginia and it is a good ole boy network of politicians. The republicans are easily going to win both races, but frankly, there is no difference between the parties at this level.


21 posted on 11/08/2011 5:49:45 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601
I understand your frustration, we've all been there. I don't know how much you worked up to this point, but you have simply got to keep on trying.

Too late for this election, but double your efforts for the next one, and network with others to quadruple the effort.

I and my group have handed out flyers, gone door-to-door, rented space at county and state fairs, sponsored speakers, sponsored radio ads, shown videos to the general public, and more.

You can't just give up.

22 posted on 11/08/2011 5:49:59 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: wolfman23601
You won't be alone for long. Looking around here of FR the vile 'backstabbing', rumor mongering, hate filled slandering crowd.

And though that group maybe small they are indicative of a good portion of the Republican Party as a whole and they have all but assured us that we will not have a viable candidate come next November and 'Bammy' will be allowed to finish his plan of destruction of this Great Nation. But even knowing that I refuse to go to the polls once again and vote for someone because I am against the other guy more than the guy I am voting for.

This line from one of my all time favorite movie comes to mind: "Well you may not know this, but there's things that gnaw at a man worse than dying."

And I am tried of the gnawing I am getting from voting for a Half-caste 'Demopulians' or a 'Repocrates'.
23 posted on 11/08/2011 5:52:36 AM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Longbow1969

Is McDonnell trying to push a conservative agenda? All I am seeing are toll roads and high speed rail. He has done a great job selling the state for jobs with companies moving in, but I am not convinced he has a conservative legislative agenda.


24 posted on 11/08/2011 5:53:51 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601
If nothing else, you might consider voting for whichever candidate will do the least damage until you get a candidate you like.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

25 posted on 11/08/2011 5:55:21 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Huck

“Unless a race is decided by one vote, your vote is meaningless anyway. I’ve never cast a meaningful vote. I could have stayed home every single time and nothing would be different”

That is a horrible attitude to have, every vote does count and imagine if everyone thought the same way? A big problem with the election of 2008 was that people stayed home instead of going to the polls.

We are lucky to live in a nation that protects our right to vote.


26 posted on 11/08/2011 5:55:28 AM PST by LBG11
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To: Longbow1969

Concur. Legislating is a team sport, and with a GOP majority in the state senate, the Governor’s reforms will fare better.

More importantly, even a moderate Republican will pull the entire caucus to the Right. And put one more RAT off the public payroll.


27 posted on 11/08/2011 5:56:25 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: wolfman23601

Those are the only offices on your ballot?

We live in Fairfax in a district so blue the GOP hasn’t even fielded candidates for the County Supervisor or School Board. BUT there are other positions, i.e., Sheriff, School Board at large, Water and Soil Conservation. And there is a school bond.

And, even if your only GOP choice is a “RINO,” his/her seat could spell the difference between the Dems retaining their majority in the Senate or the R’s taking over. Whether or not an individual R is more liberal than you’d like, the majority position strengthens the conservatives who would take over committee chairmanships and the agenda, and Gov. McDonnell.

If you don’t like the choice, why not become involved enough that you can be a candidate in the next cycle?


28 posted on 11/08/2011 5:56:29 AM PST by EDINVA (We Can't Wait, either)
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To: Longbow1969

Well said, Longbow. Exactly right.

TC


29 posted on 11/08/2011 6:00:54 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: wolfman23601

Sometimes you have to follow your own beliefs. I did not vote in the last election for president because I believed that McCain would have compromised us into the same position that Zero finds him self in today and we would be blamed. I believe today that I was right.I won’t do it this election because the country has seen what the dims are actually like. If they elect the dims again they deserve what they get!!!


30 posted on 11/08/2011 6:01:44 AM PST by ontap
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To: wolfman23601

I’m proud to go to the polls today, and to support the candidate(s) who will support Governor McDonald. Today I’m only voting for a Board of Supervisor, and Sheriff. It’s still important enough, and I want to exercise my right. It’s your civic duty man, do it!


31 posted on 11/08/2011 6:02:29 AM PST by derSchurfer (When the Rule of Law is ignored good citizens will take the law into their own hands.)
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To: wolfman23601

You tell them! Make the people of VA pay.


32 posted on 11/08/2011 6:03:07 AM PST by Mike Darancette (999er for Cain.)
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To: EDINVA

Just those two and sheriff... and I am totally unqualified to cast an informative vote for sheriff. I suppose I would vote for the incumbant as I know of no problems and the election is not partisan. Our school board and city council elections are held in May.


33 posted on 11/08/2011 6:03:20 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: G Larry
"If Obama is re-elected, it will be the end of our Constitutional Republic."

The Constitutional Republic ended the FIRST time obama was elected and illegally installed in the whitehouse.

34 posted on 11/08/2011 6:05:53 AM PST by Godebert
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To: wolfman23601

You are an idiot!


35 posted on 11/08/2011 6:10:40 AM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: wolfman23601

You can write in a different person to vote for. Better than not voting at all. Vote for yourself. :)

Most of all, don’t let this happen again. Organize a district Tea Party and put up decent candidates with an agenda you and your neighbors are concerned about. Our Republic is not a spectator’s arena, right?! Take over the State’s GOP machinery.


36 posted on 11/08/2011 6:11:10 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: LBG11
That is a horrible attitude to have, every vote does count

Every vote counts, but an individual vote totally inconsequential. That's why exit polling works with 5-10% reporting.

and imagine if everyone thought the same way?

First, they don't. Second, if they did, then there would be a lot less votes, and one vote might count. But probably not. Statistically, the additional volume of votes merely follows the statistical trend apparant after 5% have voted.

A big problem with the election of 2008 was that people stayed home instead of going to the polls.

Not here in NJ. I had no cause to bother. One vote wasn't going to make any difference at all.

37 posted on 11/08/2011 6:14:57 AM PST by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: wolfman23601

Bill Clinton set the stage for not voting. He said by people voting for him they were giving him a “mandate”. Well, that is exactly how politicians see winning, a mandate. If I cannot support that candidate I will not vote for them. If the Republican party wants my vote they had best produce a candidate that is not the least of two evils.


38 posted on 11/08/2011 6:16:56 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: wolfman23601
If nothing else, do a write-in vote for Mickey Mouse. Or, my favorite, Joe Conservative.

It's only my belief, but an awful lot of folks have sacrificed an awful lot in the past 240 years or so in order that we may responsibly manage our own government. I will at least go through the motions if but only to make the statement that I am involved in the process.

39 posted on 11/08/2011 6:17:59 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals vote like clowns walking thru a minefield, oblivious to the consequences.)
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To: LBG11
A breakdown of the MATH:

For those of us who live in New York State, the situation is far worse. Last time around, about 6.5 million votes were cast for major party candidates in New York state and 63 percent of them went to Al Gore. Assuming an electorate of similar size with a similar bias, my chance of casting the deciding vote in New York is about one in 10 to the 200,708th power. I have a better chance of winning the Powerball jackpot 7,400 times in a row than of affecting the election's outcome. Which makes it pretty hard to see why I should vote.

The traditional reply begins with the phrase "But if everyone thought like that ... ." To which the correct rejoinder is: So what? Everyone doesn't think like that. They continue to vote by the millions and tens of millions.

Even for the most passionate partisan, it's hard to argue that voting is a good use of your time. Instead of waiting in line to vote, you could wait in line to buy a lottery ticket, hoping to win $100 million and use it to advance your causes—and all with an almost indescribably greater chance of success than you'd have in the voting booth.

source: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2004/09/dont_vote.html

40 posted on 11/08/2011 6:23:52 AM PST by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: wolfman23601

Choosing not to decide is choosing none the less.


41 posted on 11/08/2011 6:24:18 AM PST by mnehring
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To: wolfman23601

Sometimes, for lack of better alternatives, you have to vote based on hope even against your better judgment. Over the years, about a half dozen times, people I voted for turned out to be better in office than I expected them to be. And, if elected, the establishment GOP type may prove to be better than you expect and he will no doubt be better than the alternative.


42 posted on 11/08/2011 6:24:53 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: wolfman23601
It's important to make it to the polls, get your card, fill in nothing, (writing a note that this is a null-vote ON PURPOSE) in case chad-counters get it), and submit it.

Not showing up means you are one of many. Submitting a null vote shows something else entirely.

43 posted on 11/08/2011 6:29:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (I guess some Occupiers are more 99% than other Occupiers.)
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To: wolfman23601

Shame on you — the thought of not voting should never enter your mind. Think of all the men and women who died to ensure that you can continue to have the privilege!!!

Exercise your franchise; if not — don’t complain.

Besides, a puppet is better than a Demoncrat any day and twice on Sundays. :D

Get out there and vote!!

Hoss


44 posted on 11/08/2011 6:33:08 AM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: wolfman23601

They are gonna redraw the congressional lines. If I were you I’d bite the bullet and vote RINO on that one issue alone.

If you wanna make a “statement” voting for a third candidate on the ballot is the only way. Sitting out, casting a blank ballot or voting for a write in candidate that isn’t actually running (or doesn’t exist eg Mickey Mouse, I don’t know about VA but in my state you have to be a registered write in candidate and I caused them problems when I wrote in “Dick Nixon” for city treasurer once) would barley be noticed.

If there are only the Republican and the dem running then you are out of luck and might as well just stay home if there is truly nothing on the ballot you want to vote on.


45 posted on 11/08/2011 6:38:22 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: wolfman23601
Voting is not about your right to complain or not. It is the. RESPONSAIBILITY of every citizen over 18 to cast their vote. Sitting it out is a coward's vote.

I am dying from a lung disease, but will crawl over broken glass to vote. This is what my husband fought for. This is what my children who are active duty go to work for every day. I suggest that you find your nearest Veterns cemetery and pay a visit. it will change your attitude.

46 posted on 11/08/2011 6:38:59 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: wolfman23601
Gee, you could have had a TEA Party candidate on that ballot.

Waiting until election day to complain is not even a decent whine.

47 posted on 11/08/2011 6:40:02 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: HossB86

Not so sure about that. Around here, the same group of cronies pull the puppet strings for both parties. Sometimes it is a democrat, sometimes it is a republican, but it is the same group... AKA “Shadow Government” that pours in the cash, gets the kickbacks, and their candidate wins every single time. I am more apt to vote for the democrat without connections than the republican puppet at this point.


48 posted on 11/08/2011 6:40:11 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Joe 6-pack

THAN YOU!!


49 posted on 11/08/2011 6:40:56 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: wolfman23601

This is how BHO got into office...
a lot of folks voted “None of the Above”.
Just sayin’...


50 posted on 11/08/2011 6:44:31 AM PST by matginzac
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