Posted on 11/08/2011 9:47:40 PM PST by GunPkrBkr
Initiative - 26 - Definition of Person - Ballot Issue November 09, 2011 - 12:30AM ET Person at Fertilization Mississippi - 1681 of 1876 Precincts Reporting - 90% Name Votes Vote % No 425,945 58% Yes 305,542 42%
Initiative - 27 - Voter Identification - Ballot Issue November 09, 2011 - 12:30AM ET Photo and Exemptions Mississippi - 1680 of 1876 Precincts Reporting - 90% Name Votes Vote % Yes 452,145 62% No 276,656 38%
Initiative - 31 - Eminent Domain - Ballot Issue November 09, 2011 - 12:30AM ET Exceptions to Limits Mississippi - 1680 of 1876 Precincts Reporting - 90% Name Votes Vote Yes 537,107 73% No 196,643 27%
Very good though that Voter ID and Eminent Domain passed. Overall, I think it was a very good day in politics.
So we have 20 percent of the folks who support voter ID who didn’t support the personhood amendment.
We need half of these folks to come over. Doable. Pity it didn’t pass.
I have read that the measure did not make any exception for rape or incest. Also, there was some question on the legality of invitro fertilization under the new law.
Even the local Catholic Bishop was against it.
http://www.mississippicatholic.com/categories/diocese/2011/102811/priesthood.html
Nonsense.
The most prolife generations are those 30 or under, and those who are over 65.
It’s the boomer generation that’s just killing us right now, both literally and figuratively. They been killing us for the last 20 years and they ain’t gonna stop.
“I join with Catholic bishops in several other states in not endorsing personhood petitions to be circulated in our Catholic parishes. We have committed ourselves to working for a federal amendment and feel the push for a state amendment could ultimately harm our efforts to overturn Roe v. Wade.”
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Please. If you’re going to lie about something, don’t lie about something so transparent.
The Great Awakening of the 19th Century was wide sweeping and enduring for many generations, converting virtually whole towns in some instances, and shutting down establishments of ill repute. It is my opinion that no generation still living, or having lives in the past 50 years, has witnessed this type of move of God. It will seem like a nuclear bomb to us if God ever wills this again.
I was pretty much shocked when I read that story. Looks like to me that there needs to be some cleaning house amoung the Bishops.
Why? All they are saying that it needs to be done nationally not statewise.
I agree that the boomer generation is a serious problem, but don't forget that the GI or so-called Greatest Generation were strong supporters of the massive welfare state programs begun under LBJ. The forerunners of the sexual revolution were GI generation people, like Hugh Hefner and Helen Gurley Brown, or from the Silent Generation (1890-1910) like Alfred Kinsey and Margaret Sanger.
The gist of the problem is that every successive American generation since the late 19th Century has drifted further from the Christian faith and traditional morality. The weakening of the family, especially of fatherly authority, and the abandonment of sound education of youth have contributed to the increased degeneration of American society, as well as the rest of the West. Of the GOP Presidential candidates, only Bachmann and Santorum recognize that the problems of America are fundamentally moral in nature. Yet they are somewhat weak on specifics as to the fiscal and economic areas that can be addressed in the short run. Those candidates with strong proposals to reduce taxes and spending, notably Perry, Cain, and Paul, do not adequately address the moral issues.
There is relatively little a President can immediately do to curb immorality, but he has the "bully pulpit" to espouse the Christian faith and traditional morality.
“It was that “prolife” generation that overwhelmingly voted in favor of Obama three years ago.”
And it’s that same generation that has seen nothing done by a Republican majority and a Republican president to end abortion.
The Republicans need to actually do something if they want to be seen as a credible force in favor of the right to life.
BTW, Obama drew most of his votes from the boomer crowd. Yes, a higher proportion of younger folks voted for him, but there are way more boomer voters.
“I agree that the boomer generation is a serious problem, but don’t forget that the GI or so-called Greatest Generation were strong supporters of the massive welfare state programs”
They aren’t the ones responsible for aborting their children. That falls on the boomers. I’m a survivor and all of my generation that made it this far are survivors to parents that aborted our brothers and sisters.
You are right that some in the silent generation taught them poorly, but everyone needs to make his or her own decisions. We can’t, at the end of the day, go and say, yes, they said I should abort, but I made the choice to listen to them and go and abort my children.
“The gist of the problem is that every successive American generation since the late 19th Century has drifted further from the Christian faith and traditional morality.”
Again, if you poll the question as to whether unborn children ought to have the right to live, the two generations most likely to say yes, are the survivors and those who are older than the boomers. That to me speaks volumes.
“The weakening of the family, especially of fatherly authority, and the abandonment of sound education of youth have contributed to the increased degeneration of American society, as well as the rest of the West.”
Without question. This plays a huge role in things. Huge. People talk about how race is a problem, but I have heard few say that the fact that white illegitimacy is up to 30 percent is a big reason why this nation is in trouble. Race is far less of a factor than broken families.
“Of the GOP Presidential candidates, only Bachmann and Santorum recognize that the problems of America are fundamentally moral in nature.”
I’d argue that Cain does as well.
...welllll, because abortion could have been ended in Mississippi, right then, right there, period. Catholic Bishops are supposed to be against abortion. Now abortion continues in Mississippi.
This could have been the start of a nation-wide movement to outlaw abortion, but thanks to the Catholic Church in Mississippi (and others), it was killed shortly after its conception.
This Bishop's logic is how politicians think. He is supposed to be a man of God.
“welllll, because abortion could have been ended in Mississippi, right then, right there, period.”
Why? R. v Wade still exists. The abortion clinics would immediately sue and the current administration would protect them. As they did in South Dakota.
Yes, it would have helped, but abortions are not going to end, anywhere, in America until Roe goes the way of the dumpster.
“Catholic Bishops are supposed to be against abortion. Now abortion continues in Mississippi.”
Which is why you lied and said they were opposed to this bill? Your source said that the Bishops said that this bill was only a first step, and that action needed to be taken nationally to overturn Roe.
That sounds like a prolife position to me.
“This could have been the start of a nation-wide movement to outlaw abortion, but thanks to the Catholic Church in Mississippi (and others), it was killed shortly after its conception.”
Bullshit. Sorry. You’d rather bash the only folks fighting for you rather then call out the 20 percent of people who are ‘fiscally conservative’, and yet not socially conservative. 60 percent are conservative in Mississippi, and if only half of the fiscal conservatives had voted with the social conservatives, the bill would have passed.
“This Bishop’s logic is how politicians think. He is supposed to be a man of God.”
He is, which is why he called on people to stand for a national bill to overturn Roe.
You are lying, as usual. What church do you belong to?
“PCA Presbyterian”
Says it all. No wonder you hate the Catholics so much.
I was disappointed in that Bishop when I read this article.
As you read in my profile page, I am also a gun rights activist. Concealed carry was rare 25 years ago. Today, because of the actions of the States, not the federal government, you can obtain a permit in all but one state. I see ending abortion using the same method.
This is what I took from the article: “I join with Catholic bishops in several other states in not endorsing personhood petitions to be circulated in our Catholic parishes”. The petition was to get the initiative onto the ballot. If he was against petitions, then he was against the initiative to end abortion in Miss.
As to your other points, you are too angry, abusive and just plain incorrect for me to respond point by point, so I won't.
Have a good life.
“This is what I took from the article: “I join with Catholic bishops in several other states in not endorsing personhood petitions to be circulated in our Catholic parishes”.
And you conveniently omit the second half where he says this must be a national initiative in order to be effective.
Sheesh.
I’m angry because I hate liars who report falsehoods. Especially here on FR.
FUTURE OF PERSONHOOD
We have 38 states that have wrongful death laws, that protect the unborn child as a person. That movement has been tremendously successful on all fronts. Tennessee upgraded their fetal homicide law this year, and North Carolina passed one for the first time. These laws continue to grow, year by year, and state by state.
Blackmun myth
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/228252/blackmun-myth/clarke-d-forsythe?pg=1
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