Skip to comments.J. Edgar -- The Film Falls For KGB Disinformation (Was the famous FBI director really gay?)
Posted on 11/09/2011 7:27:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
The rumor that J. Edgar Hoover was gay is repeated in the new biopic J. Edgar opening this week. And herein lies a useful lesson worth noting: Hoover's alleged homosexuality was contrived by the KGB in the 1960s.
Despite the volumes of revelations about the true nature of the Soviet Union during the Cold War, even clear-thinking Americans cannot embrace the reality that one of the KGB's key functions was to run disinformation programs to undermine leaders and institutions in the West, especially the United States - what the spy agency called the "main adversary
In the 1960s Service A and Directorate K were the key departments dedicated to destabilizing Western nations. A large apparatus recruited agents to infiltrate government agencies, the arts, the film community, academia, think tanks and activist groups with the mission to recruit gullible leftists to the worldwide socialist revolution. One stunning example was using Phillip Agee, a former CIA officer, to publish names of active CIA officers and agents.
Another campaign sought to pin the JFK assassination on HL Hunt and other Texas oilmen, and later the CIA. There was an organized campaign to discredit Martin Luther King, Jr. after he repudiated Soviet communism, and later to manufacture the conspiracy theory that the CIA introduced AIDS into the black community.
The attack by Service A on the FBI director began with forged letters connecting him the John Birch Society and leaked forged letters to columnist Drew Pearson accusing Hoover of pressing a State Department employee to turn over information on suspected leftists.
But the scheme to characterize Hoover as a homosexual was so successful it has remained in the American memory, becoming an accepted fact expressed in books, films, on campus and on television as a confirmed fact.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
“Hoover’s alleged homosexuality was contrived by the KGB in the 1960s.”
Yeah, I’m sure the KGB also contrived the facts that Hoover never married, never dated a woman seriously, lived with his mother until she died, and had an ever-present male companion that he took vacations with.
Wasn’t it Madame Lansky to make this claim?
There were more books than AGEE’s.
One after another “books” came out to discredit the CIA.
In 73 they did everything they could to destroy the CIA with the Church Commission.
They failed but the same bunch at work then is now running the Obama Administration and oops right out of the gate they went after the CIA.
The FBI was on their target list too, but Hoover had to much on them.
Once a commie always a commie.
Had an old Irish uncle who would fit above description. Definitely not Gay. He was also a drinker. Usually several pints after work at the mill. He probably realized no woman (except his Mom) would accept such behavior. Don't be so influenced by our present day-and-age. In other eras, people were more simple, and not so obsessed by sex, and there was no media that shoved it in their faces.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
hmmm.. must be the KGB getting back together
According to him, Hoover was an absolute work-a-holic who had no time for any social or personal involvements of any kind.
The FBI was Hoover's life and his mistress.
nonsense....Hoover was gay....
I liked the Ernest Borgnine Hoover.
Well at least in that case, playing Hoover wasn't a stretch for Leo DiCaprio.
I won’t be watching this hollyweird revision of history.
I think Susan Rosenstiel got a story out to the NYT and the NYT had to retract the story (hidden in the back pages) or something like that.
Decent link here:
The Ernest Borgnine movie really is good.
"We're not Gay! You're Gay! Shut Up!"
Sure, that may have been more common in times past, but the fact is that people back then who knew Hoover were always speculating about him, whether or not the KGB decided jump in and push the rumors. I think the KGB just tried to take advantage, they didn’t create the suspicions.
Doesn’t that pic look just a tad phony to you?
I agree with your assessment. Somewhere I had read of a classic explanation for that state of being. Simply put, the person is so involved in their own world and certainly with people who are wedded to a career - description is apt. That being a "Professional Bachelor".
The lovely lady who is also a pianist and who did so well in the Bush administration fits that description. I bear in mind the wise saying that "one cannot disprove a smear". Not completely true in every case, but there is just no hard and fast rule to crush a smear. That is why the lefties use smears.
Nope. Eliza Doolittle changed all that after he became “Accustomed to Her Face”.
Wow! Now the whole thing is ringing through my head, having seen the whole performance. Ah,innocent (well almost)pre gay times, when homosexual was homosexual and people knew. Never dared make false accusations or face retribution.
"Say what you want about J. Edgar Hoover, but when he was around, nobody messed with the F.B.I.....and he looked better in a dress than Janet Reno!"
Oh yeah, and Hoover was as queer as a three dollar bill.
You mean the beard he is currently dating.
If you say so. I don’t know - but I do know he seems to run around after absurdly hot women. Not that there is anything wrong with that! ;)
Then there was the KGB rumour that Rock Hudson and Liberace were “gay”, when both of them were married! To wymyn!
Gay? Don't think so. (And this was before Doris became a virgin!)
J. Edgar appears to have been a proto-computer hacker, you know, fanboy.
“I knew Doris Day before she was a virgin” Oscar Levant
as a 3 dollar bill! lol.
You didn't need the KGB to ask such questions and give the expected answers, and it's not like the Soviets were Hoover's only enemies.
If there is a "conspiracy" here, you can chalk it up to the Mafia, and it's not really a conspiracy, just one of those rumors that spread and spread.
Mafiosi said they had photos of Hoover in a dress and by now a lot of people believe they did.
I don't know what Hoover got up to in the bedroom, but it's more likely that no such photos existed than that the Mafia had them.
Incidently, the film also insinuates that Hoover couldn't blackmail Roosevlelt with a suggestive letter from his wife to her lesbian lover, because Roosevelt knew about the relationship, and was cool with it. It also has a wiretap of President Kennedy having sex with "as East German Communist," and AG Bobby Kennedy more interested persuing Martin Luther King than further prosecution of Communist infiltrators.
Look, it is high time people on this website come to terms with the fact that libertarians and conservatives are different KINDS of Republicans. Federal law enforcement is not popular among libertarians.
As the son of a retired FBI agent, I am glad I did not see this movie with my father, as we originally planned. I am going to talk him and my mother into seeing the Margaret Thatcher biopic instead. Maybe it will get into her alleged affair with Ronald Reagan.
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