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Happy Valley reacts to PSU Coach Joe Paterno's retirement
Centre (County PA) Daily Times ^ | 3:03pm on Nov 9, 2011 | Staff Reports

Posted on 11/09/2011 5:38:02 PM PST by re_nortex

Here's some reactions from around Centre County to news of Joe Paterno's decision to retire at the end of this season.

From Fran Fisher, who said he's "a good friend" with Joe and Sue Paterno and started in the Penn State radio network the first year Paterno became head coach: "It's a difficult thing to think that his retirement is the result of a circumstance that is not appropriate to defining his career."

(Excerpt) Read more at centredaily.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; paterno; pederastagenda; pennstate
Among the comments on the newspaper's web page:

Wow, a legend has fallen from grace. Say it ain't so Joe.

1 posted on 11/09/2011 5:38:09 PM PST by re_nortex
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To: re_nortex

It’s just mind boggling that in this day and age, someone in his position would say nothing, and then continue to be a friend to this man he knows is a pedophile.


2 posted on 11/09/2011 5:42:20 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Hildy
It’s just mind boggling that in this day and age, someone in his position would say nothing, and then continue to be a friend to this man he knows is a pedophile.

A result of defining deviancy down, I guess.

3 posted on 11/09/2011 5:50:34 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Sans-Culotte
A result of defining deviancy down, I guess.

The "New Morality" is the old immorality. The homosexual agenda embraces deviancy of all forms under the umbrella of tolerance and diversity.

4 posted on 11/09/2011 5:54:37 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: Hildy

“It’s just mind boggling that in this day and age, someone in his position would say nothing, and then continue to be a friend to this man he knows is a pedophile.”

It’s just mind-boggling that you think Paterno is a pedophile.


5 posted on 11/09/2011 5:54:56 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: Hildy

What I find amazing is that he is announcing when he is leaving Penn State. The trustees are now meeting to decide whether or not he should be fired and forced to leave immediately, not the end of the season. He, the president of the university, and others were legally obligated to report this to the police. They didn’t. They didn’t report this as a crime statistic for the campus. They were required to do so. Paterno has the arrogance to think that he can tell the trustees when he will leave. They ought to remind him who’s boss and fire him by the end of the week at the very latest.


6 posted on 11/09/2011 5:55:43 PM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: Hildy

I wonder, though, and I’m not defending Joe, but how does a 70 year old man process what Mcqueary told him, especially if he gave him a vague description of what he saw? I’d bet he looked at McQueary and thought to himself, “What the h_ll is this guy talking about?”


7 posted on 11/09/2011 6:00:24 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Considering how Joe Paterno has acted since at least 1998, I believe it is not beyond the realm of possibility. This is a guy who would not have his picture taken with a Penthouse Pet (fully clothed) upon her request in a TV studio where there paths crossed, but when notified of a 10 year old boy being raped in his showers, he shows no urgency in the least. My life experience has shown me that these holier than thou personalities usually have a dark side. Normal guy smiles and gets his picture taken in the first instance, and calls the police pronto in the second. Creepy guy does the opposite.


8 posted on 11/09/2011 6:03:57 PM PST by gusty
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To: InvisibleChurch
...if he gave him a vague description of what he saw?

According to the indictment, McQuery's description of what he saw is that the accused was engaged in anal intercourse with a boy about 10 years of age. McQuery notified JoePa the next day that this is what he witnessed, according to the indictment. Doesn't sound "vague" to me.

9 posted on 11/09/2011 6:16:14 PM PST by nfldgirl
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To: InvisibleChurch

Excuse me but as a 71 year-old male I resent the implication that Joe didn’t know what he heard and didn’t know immediately what he should do. Age had nothing to do with it. Power and protecting a reputation, his and the “program”, were what he thought of first. He couldn’t nail Sandusky without blowback and he chose not to do it.

The cover-up is sometimes worse than the act... although not in this case.

Any power structure that’s 46 years old tends to make these kind of serious errors. Joe should have blown it up 15 years ago and resigned then.


10 posted on 11/09/2011 6:19:09 PM PST by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is not enough)
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To: gusty

“...when notified of a 10 year old boy being raped in his showers, he shows no urgency in the least.”

I think that’s the rub. I do not know exactly what was said or how it was described to Mr. Paterno.
If the graduate assistant came and said, “I saw Mr. Sanduski taking a shower with a kid in the locker
room and they were horsing around in an inappropriate way” - well that is far different than if he
said “I saw Mr. Sanduski raping a kid in the shower”.

I don’t know what he “knew” or how it was communicated. I suspect we will learn more and I will
give him the benefit of the doubt until that time.


11 posted on 11/09/2011 6:25:37 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

A naked 60 year old man and a naked 10 year old boy horsing around in the football locker room showers at 9:30PM on a Friday night I believe reaches the threshold for a 911 call.


12 posted on 11/09/2011 6:32:37 PM PST by gusty
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I think that’s the rub. I do not know exactly what was said or how it was described to Mr. Paterno. If the graduate assistant came and said, “I saw Mr. Sanduski taking a shower with a kid in the locker room and they were horsing around in an inappropriate way” - well that is far different than if he said “I saw Mr. Sanduski raping a kid in the shower”.

Good thought. Nothing bad about a 54 year old man horseing around with a ten year old in an inappropriate way in the middle of the night in Joe's locker room. Happens all the time. Now good night. We can all go back to bed.

13 posted on 11/09/2011 6:33:33 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: InvisibleChurch
I wonder, though, and I’m not defending Joe, but how does a 70 year old man process what Mcqueary told him, especially if he gave him a vague description of what he saw? I’d bet he looked at McQueary and thought to himself, “What the h_ll is this guy talking about?”

I am 65 and I will tell you how I would process it.

Son, please tell me slowly exactly what you saw and I will take notes. Next, we call 911 to report the rape.

14 posted on 11/09/2011 6:37:06 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
Well, like I said, I will wait for details about what was communicated.

Here is what his statement said...

"As my grand jury testimony stated, I was informed in 2002 by an assistant coach that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of our locker room facility. It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As Coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at that time, I referred the matter to university administrators.

Since grand jury testimony is under oath, the consequences of lying are a felony charge.
I'm sure Paterno knew that. So, unless he lied under oath intentionally, I will take him at his word
until more info comes out.

You are free to do whatever you wish.

15 posted on 11/09/2011 6:39:02 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: JeanLM

You are so right. Some of Joe’s defenders act like JoePa was a middle age guy in 1860’s and 1870’s instead of the 1960’s and 70’s.


16 posted on 11/09/2011 6:43:06 PM PST by gusty
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You are free to do whatever you wish.

I am free to read the report and notice that you left out the part about where Paterno testified 'fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a boy'.

17 posted on 11/09/2011 6:47:21 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Are you also aware that a few years ago Joe was involved in a 'road rage' incident. He told the police and reporters he never got out of the car. Later (having forgot what he told the police) he told a group that he got out of the car. Better to take Joe's words with a grain of salt. Maybe the guy is lying or maybe he is just senile.

BTW, did you catch the part where Joe said "if the charges are true .."? Give me a break. Joe knows.

18 posted on 11/09/2011 6:50:48 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: JeanLM

I guess maybe my father wouldnt have figured it out. Im sorry I upset you.


19 posted on 11/09/2011 6:55:50 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Did you miss Joe’s statement:

“I wish I had done more.”

No sense saying Joe did all was required when Joe is saying publicly that he did not.


20 posted on 11/09/2011 6:56:09 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Mean Maryjean

Ok. Thanks.


21 posted on 11/09/2011 6:56:31 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: re_nortex

I was just thinking today about JoePa, when informed of Sandusky’s sodomizing a kid in the team shower; and his doing “the minumum” by informing his immediate superior, the AD, and then seemingly taking a multi-year siesta in regard to the matter. From what we’ve learned, he never once even inquired of ANYONE regarding the matter. Nor did he ever sit Sandusky down, look him in the eye and say, “Jerry, you low-lifed bastard! What should I make of the rumors I hear about you abusing young boys right here on campus?”

But it seems like God usually gives a person one last chance to “do the right thing” and clear their name. JoePa’s one last chance popped up just a few years ago, when it was all over the Central Pennsylvania media that some individuals had contacted authorities and accused Jerry Sandusky of sexual assault, etc., and that Sandusky was under investigation.

That was JoePa’s cue to wake the he!! up, go to the authorities with what he had known for years, and try to cooperate in the investigation instead of hiding in the shadows and seemingly hoping it would all just go away.
Bi-i-i-i-ig mistake!

Mark 4:22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.

And THAT, to my mind, is where JeoPa blew his last chance to at least come off APPEARING as though he gave a crap! So henceforth his legacy will be pretty much THIS SCANDAL.


22 posted on 11/09/2011 6:59:10 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: WestSylvanian
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I AGREE one-hundred percent !!!!


These arrogant NCAA-Mafioso "sports operations" are LARGELY a steaming pile of "Barack Hussein Obama" ...


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23 posted on 11/09/2011 7:00:18 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: InvisibleChurch

I want to know why McQueary didn’t beat Sandusky into a coma when he processed what he was seeing.


24 posted on 11/09/2011 7:01:25 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (OccupyMinefield, you communist filth!)
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To: NewinTexsas

I suppose i was caught up in wishful thinking. Theres no reason to suggest that a fellow in his position wouldnt have been educated as to what to do when certain things happen. I was thinking of persons from an earlier generation who didnt grow up with the internet, those who might have been “sheltered” from the crap you can find with modern technology. Thats all, really.


25 posted on 11/09/2011 7:02:09 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: re_nortex

defining his career.....yeah that’s the ticket. He’s now among the ranks of Brett Favre and Tiger Woods. Their records are not what will be remembered, how they blew in the end will be.


26 posted on 11/09/2011 7:06:36 PM PST by MomwithHope (Wake up America we are at war with militant Islam and progressives - 2 fronts.)
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To: re_nortex

defining his career.....yeah that’s the ticket. He’s now among the ranks of Brett Favre and Tiger Woods. Their records are not what will be remembered, how they blew in the end will be.


27 posted on 11/09/2011 7:07:04 PM PST by MomwithHope (Wake up America we are at war with militant Islam and progressives - 2 fronts.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

A common misconception is that prior generations were just naive babes in the woods. They were not. For centuries people were very aware of all the vices we are aware of. That frail 85 year old guy you see on the street might have fought his way across the Rhine, and probably had a hell of an R & R in Paris when he was in his twenties.


28 posted on 11/09/2011 7:08:20 PM PST by gusty
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To: SirLurkedalot

i suppose he wanted to keep his job


29 posted on 11/09/2011 7:12:39 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: InvisibleChurch
I suppose i was caught up in wishful thinking. Theres no reason to suggest that a fellow in his position wouldnt have been educated as to what to do when certain things happen.

Thanks for the honesty. PSU used to be my favorite team (except for the SEC).

30 posted on 11/09/2011 7:12:51 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: gusty

understood . thanks


31 posted on 11/09/2011 7:13:46 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: Tucker39

At Penn State under Paterno–child rape was just collateral damage……


32 posted on 11/09/2011 7:19:51 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (It's not racism..... it's probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Life is full of choices, I guess.

This whole thing makes me ill.

FReegards,
SirL


33 posted on 11/09/2011 7:29:53 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (OccupyMinefield, you communist filth!)
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To: re_nortex

Apparently, the retirement begins right now.


34 posted on 11/09/2011 7:31:14 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: SirLurkedalot

It’s stunning, isn’t it? In a matter of days a kingdom crumbles to the ground.


35 posted on 11/09/2011 7:33:28 PM PST by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: dfwgator
Apparently, the retirement begins right now.

Or as Chaz Noll would put it, "...he's getting on to his life's work."

Do you think this is the biggest sports story of the year? Decade?

36 posted on 11/09/2011 7:35:39 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex
. Only a few very courageous blacks have spoken out about this.

Greatest sports scandal, ever, since the Black Sox.

37 posted on 11/09/2011 7:37:37 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: re_nortex

Ooops, highlighted the wrong line from another thread.


38 posted on 11/09/2011 7:38:51 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Tucker39

And then there was the disappearance of Gricar who was on this case....this is the tip of the iceberg.


39 posted on 11/09/2011 7:40:01 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: dfwgator

HE’S FIRED AND GOOD RIDDANCE, EVIL PREVAILS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING! WHAT HE DID AMOUNTED TO NOTHING FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
HE IS A SELF SERVING NARCISSIST !

WHAT HAPPENED AT PENN STATE IS A MICROCOSM FOR WHAT IS WORNG WITH THIS COUNTRY. GOOD MEN DOING NOTHING WHILE EVIL RUNS RAMPANT!

GET YOUR ASBESTOS SUIT READY, IT’S HOT WHERE YOUR GOING JOE!


40 posted on 11/09/2011 7:45:27 PM PST by TsonicTsunami08
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To: InvisibleChurch
It sure is....Paterno and Spanier just got canned, BTW.

McCoward is on a leave of absence and probably won't be seen on a sideline anytime soon.

My heart weeps for those poor kids.

41 posted on 11/09/2011 7:47:24 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (OccupyMinefield, you communist filth!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
In a matter of days a kingdom crumbles to the ground.

What's noteworthy is that all of this comes merely days after Joe Paterno was lionized after winning game #409. He was the toast of the town (and much of the nation) after beating the Illini 10-7 to pass Eddie Robinson for most victories.

The Philadelphia Daily News front page shown on ESPN a bit ago phrased it: END OF THE LION.

42 posted on 11/09/2011 9:37:48 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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