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Google's Happy Veteran's Day
Google ^ | 11-11-2011 | Google

Posted on 11/11/2011 3:22:52 AM PST by Pollster1

Google remembered, which is a step in the right direction.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: google; veterans

No American flag, but at least they didn't ignore us completely.

1 posted on 11/11/2011 3:22:55 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: Pollster1

Msn has the flag.
http://www.msn.com/?st=1


2 posted on 11/11/2011 3:33:54 AM PST by expat1000
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To: Pollster1

Call me a cynic, but I think they have a different agenda. My feeling is they believe we should leave Afghanistan, Iraq was unjust, and the service members are victims of failed policy.....specifically Bush policy.


3 posted on 11/11/2011 3:34:31 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: Pollster1

Don’t worry they’ll make up for it by ignoring Pearl Harbor Day and D-Day.


4 posted on 11/11/2011 3:46:01 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Pollster1
Here's the background image at bing.com


5 posted on 11/11/2011 4:41:34 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Pollster1

The yellow ribbon is not pro-soldier. It’s YELLOW for a reason.


6 posted on 11/11/2011 4:45:30 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
The yellow ribbon is not pro-soldier. It’s YELLOW for a reason.

Agreed, but even an insult is a step up from their usual total neglect.

7 posted on 11/11/2011 5:31:17 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: bvw

What are you on about? It’s a clear reference to “Tie a Yellow Ribbon ‘round the Old Oak Tree.”

Ft. Benning, Ga, has a yellow ribbon tied around a tree on damn near every street. Go tell them it’s not pro-soldier.


8 posted on 11/11/2011 6:20:41 AM PST by Terabitten ("Don't retreat. RELOAD!!" -Sarah Palin)
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To: bvw

http://endtimepilgrim.org/yellowrib.htm


9 posted on 11/11/2011 6:25:42 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Terabitten

Young whipper snapper has no idea. Has he never seen a John Wayne movie?

It is almost an insult to our Cavalry soldiers to say it is ‘anti-soldier’ and imply the other ‘yellow’ meaning.


10 posted on 11/11/2011 6:27:19 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Terabitten

It’s not pro-soldier.


11 posted on 11/11/2011 7:20:31 AM PST by bvw
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To: mnehring

A Yellow Ribbon says “run from your duty and come home!”

That is not the tune of a true trooper.

A true trooper comes home when duty is done.


12 posted on 11/11/2011 7:23:42 AM PST by bvw
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To: mnehring

They should fly a flag, light a candle in the window, or post a blue star. Something that is respectful of the duty of the trooper gone away. The yellow ribbon is a call to abandon a scary duty because it is scary.


13 posted on 11/11/2011 7:26:19 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

No it doesn’t, never has, never will. There are three main sources of the Yellow Ribbon when it comes to the Military. 1. From the British Navy when wives put yellow scarves outside their windows to welcome home sailors (so they can see it from the ship. 2. The Yellow Ribbons where the bandannas worn by cavalry solders and they would often give them to their wives and girl friends when they went off to battle (memorialized in John Wayne’s movie She Wore a Yellow Ribbon). & 3. They were made more popular in the Iran hostage situation when people around the country put them out until the hostages were returned (part in part to the song making it popular). Since then, it has been a symbol that one has loved ones in combat and they are left out until they return. I see them all over Killeen for Ft Hood soldiers.

It has never symbolized running from your duty or cowardice, and frankly, considering the history of the relationship to US Cavalry regiments, it is an insult to even imply such.


14 posted on 11/11/2011 7:29:21 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I call as I see it. “She wore a yellow ribbon” was a movie, amigo.


15 posted on 11/11/2011 7:37:20 AM PST by bvw
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To: Pollster1
Rush hour didn't happen this morning in NJ. The commute was very light, a testament to the number of government hirelings here.
16 posted on 11/11/2011 7:40:39 AM PST by Reeses (Have you mocked a Democrat today?)
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To: bvw

There is no one so blind as one who refuses to see.

Numerous corrections and you still insist it simply MUST be the way you see it, not the way thousands of others throughout history have seen it.

Meaning is amorphous, but the meaning of a yellow ribbon tied around a tree is pretty clear from the historic context of the innumerable yellow ribbons put out in recognition of innumerable warriors - it is a civilian recognition that our forces are out there and we await their HONORABLE return.


17 posted on 11/11/2011 7:41:51 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: bvw

it was a movie but they based that on old tradition.


18 posted on 11/11/2011 7:50:55 AM PST by mnehring
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To: allmendream

I do not accept the history so claimed, what was linked to by mhering prior was a historical survey of a weak sort, designed to prove what it hoped could be proven.

I am telling you in my considered view that such displays produce a mindset of running away from duty rather than commitment to it.


19 posted on 11/11/2011 7:51:29 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Well your view is unconsidered and ignorant.

When I was serving in Desert Storm, my mom tied a yellow ribbon around an Oak tree on her property. She was not in any way encouraging me to shirk my duty and I, as well as innumerable other warriors serving overseas, resent what you are attempting to say the act implies.

20 posted on 11/11/2011 8:03:05 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: bvw; allmendream

You do realize that the GI BIll is nicknamed the Yellow Ribbon Program.

The US Army also has what is known as Yellow Ribbon Rooms at their bases which are support posts for family members who have loved ones stationed over seas.

But don’t let your view interfere with the reality of how our own soldiers see it. Just because Yellow only means one thing to you.

The US Army has many programs and events using the Yellow Ribbon, and none mean what you see.

http://www.army.mil/article/9216/
http://www.army.mil/article/21591/
http://www.army.mil/article/65547/
http://www.army.mil/article/23985/
http://www.army.mil/article/43947/
http://www.army.mil/article/24317/

Must be pretty sad, you drive around and see yellow ribbons and instead of feeling pride for those who are serving, you only think of cowardice.

My grandfather’s yellow bandanna is tied around the flag given to my grandmother by honor guards at his funeral.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 8:03:55 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Yeoman’s work there mnehring.


22 posted on 11/11/2011 8:17:12 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: mnehring

(1) I apologize for misspelling your handle in a prior post. Just to make sure I got it right here it is: “mnehring”.

(2) Of course the GI Bill is nicknamed the Yellow Ribbon program, being as it is the entry point for many families into statist socialism. Socialism preys on victims, and with the “help me government” attitude of the Bonus Marchers and the rise of socialism in the US the elite and the eternal victim class in any society, the GI Bill was almost predetermined outcome.

For many in the military since, military service is a ticket to the lifetime of governmental gravy. Difficult for a while, but the long term defined benefits are considered worth it.

(3) For many, if not most, flying the yellow ribbon in the years since the Iranian Hostage Crisis it has meant only one thing “Bring ‘Em Home Now!”.


24 posted on 11/11/2011 10:59:22 AM PST by bvw
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To: allmendream
Funny!

In a weird way.

You said, "Yeoman’s work there mnehring."

Did you know that a yeoman is by most common definition a freeman who must do the hard work on his own to run his own farm.

The Yeomen as a class are the ones who make up the militia, the armed citizenry. Not the paid professional military. When a YEOMAN goes to war, his family doesn't fly a yellow ribbon, they fly the stars and stripes.

25 posted on 11/11/2011 11:05:30 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

You have a problem with a paid professional military?

Do Yeomen usually go to war as conscripts or volunteers in your mind?

Once they volunteer and are paid, are then not part of a paid professional military?

Evidence shows you know next to nothing about the military traditions of American families and are thus in a rather piss poor position to say what their acts do or do not symbolize.


26 posted on 11/11/2011 11:16:36 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
The Founders and the founding generations of the America you claim to love had a great problem with a paid professional military. Have you forgotten your own nation's history?
27 posted on 11/11/2011 11:21:24 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Many had problems with a standing Army. Less so with a paid professional Navy.

I didn’t ask what our founders view was - I asked what you had against a paid professional military.

Do you think America can and should do without one?

Do you think in modern warfare an amateur force would be sufficient to protect and defend these United States?


28 posted on 11/11/2011 11:24:14 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Every American should have serious reservations about any paid professional military, especially if -- as you yourself suggested by inference -- it becomes a family tradition. THAT is the what the Founders themselves would advise.

THAT is what our Nation's Founders had to fight both as part of and against. Some of greatest military officers of the Revolution had been part of the British military in the wars prior to the Revolution. So great was their fully understandable fear of a standing military, that the Articles of Confederation did not have the ability to raise one of any consequence.

Out of that post Revolutionary experience, under the Articles of Confederation, the founding generation learned that we needed a standing professional army and navy, but even then it was always kept small, lean and even at times impoverished. THAT is our heritage, and it is so for good reason.

29 posted on 11/11/2011 11:38:57 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Well your inherent anti- U.S. military stance has left you woefully unprepared to say what an American military tradition does or does not mean.

Your ignorance is obviously only matched by your intransigence in insisting upon your meaning despite numerous well sourced corrections.

30 posted on 11/11/2011 11:43:28 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: bvw

Being separated by two oceans doesn’t mean what it used to.


31 posted on 11/11/2011 11:45:12 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: allmendream
Tyrants have no problems at all with professional military. For one example Kadafy, the recently deceased was big on a professional military. And on our own shores, far from Tripoli:
As part of their Joining Forces initiative, first lady Michelle Obama and Jill Biden will serve as grand marshals for the Sprint Cup Series season-finale Ford 400 at Homestead-Miami Speedway. NASCAR, Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden will recognize service members and military families from the local community in pre-race ceremonies and at a special BBQ lunch and will also invite a military family to join them as they lead the pre-race ceremony and offer the command for drivers to start their engines.
Answer me! Just who do the tyrants most desire and compete for the support of?

Citizens or Professional Military?

What does this NASCAR news blurb today tell us?

32 posted on 11/11/2011 1:02:54 PM PST by bvw
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To: dfwgator

We were never separated by two oceans as our pre-nationhood and early nationhood wars in Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean show. As well as the Indian Wars.


33 posted on 11/11/2011 1:05:34 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
You have a big problem with our professional military.

Your subsequent rants have little to do with you being absolutely 100% wrong about what a yellow ribbon means.

But your anti-military stance helps to explain your abject ignorance on the subject quite well.

34 posted on 11/11/2011 1:22:00 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
I am going to explain your own subconscious to you. Someone has to. Looks like I pulled the short straw.

You have used the phrase "abject ignorance" again and again. The use of that phrase seems to be the pinnacle, the apex, the acme, that is the ultimate argument you have.

You are hung up on it. I'll tell you now (right now, listen!) what your subconscious means by it.

You mean you object to what I have said. You find it objectional simply and only because it does not fit the facts as your would like them to be, magically.

You object to facts differing from what you would like the world and history to have been. And you subconsciously recognize that making such a personal choice keeps you ignorant. Object ignorance.

Your subconscious understands exactly what you are doing and has commented upon it.

Sorry, FRiend, but I can accept no fees for this charity. Your subconscious will thank me.

35 posted on 11/11/2011 2:05:38 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
When a man who knows something comes across a child who thinks he knows something but is wrong and comes upon his opinion through misconception and total lack of knowledge - the man must insist that the child's opinion is based upon ABJECT IGNORANCE.

You had the opportunity to learn what people in the military think of yellow ribbons, and what their family members mean when they put out yellow ribbons, what Military Bases mean when they put out yellow ribbons - but you chose to wallow in your own ignorance rather than learn.

What can be said of such abject and willful ignorance?

That I have a total lack of respect for it, as well as your shitty anti U.S. military attitude.

The rest of the nation chose to thank me for my service today.

You chose this day to besmirch the military and their families and to continue on in abject ignorance.

Hell of a choice there child.

36 posted on 11/11/2011 2:38:07 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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