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Sandusky is not the only one from Penn State that Ray Gricar declined to prosecute... (Vanity)
dailylocal.com ^ | 11/12/11 | Me

Posted on 11/12/2011 5:25:52 PM PST by Boogieman

I was looking for some information on the Sandusky case and stumbled upon this tidbit, which may be irrelevant, but I thought it was interesting. According to this news story, Jerry Sandusky was not the only person affiliated with Penn State that DA Ray Gricar declined to prosecute for a sexual offense.

"As evidence that Gricar had the guts to not prosecute someone contrary to popular opinion, Buehner recalled the case of Scott Paxson, a star defensive tackle accused of raping a woman at his campus apartment in December 2004.

Gricar was criticized for not prosecuting that case. His successor, Michael Madeira, charged Paxson 15 months later with aggravated indecent assault and indecent assault but dropped the charges in the midst of Paxson's trial in September 2006. Paxson, who maintained his innocence, pleaded guilty to summary disorderly conduct — akin to a traffic ticket — and paid a $300 fine."

Now, it's probably the case that there was not enough evidence to make the charges stick, or Gricar thought it was a false accusation. Still, considering the recent theorizing about Gricar's refusal to file charges against Sandusky in 1998, I thought this information might be of interest.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: gricar; pedstate; pennstate; psu; sandusky

1 posted on 11/12/2011 5:25:55 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Msybe Gricar was part of some kind of pedo-ring?


2 posted on 11/12/2011 5:34:49 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Boogieman

Gricar isn’t around to answer these questimns. Maybe the folks whose names end in vowels have a lot of influence at Pedophile ST U


3 posted on 11/12/2011 5:37:10 PM PST by Figment
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To: Boogieman

What a nest of pedophile vipers.


4 posted on 11/12/2011 5:37:16 PM PST by samtheman
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Stop Goofing Off And Donate


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5 posted on 11/12/2011 5:39:08 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Boogieman

Has anyone ever checked out the Rio d’J phone book for the missing district attny?


6 posted on 11/12/2011 5:48:14 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: GeronL

I don’t think so, but I am wondering if maybe there was some coercion exerted against him by somebody. The more I read about his disappearance, the more things point to the notion that he faked his death to disappear. If it was because someone was blackmailing him in 1998 though, it wouldn’t make much sense for him to wait 7 years to disappear. This case happened just months before he disappeared, so it’s tantalizing to wonder if maybe there was a blackmailer, who showed up again make demands on Gricar, and that was the last straw.


7 posted on 11/12/2011 6:03:47 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: nkycincinnatikid

That’s what I’m thinking too. Of course, being a DA, it would be extraordinarily easy for him to get the vital records of someone that was deceased and create a new identity, so I doubt he is listed under his real name, wherever he may be.


8 posted on 11/12/2011 6:06:38 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Figment

I can’t find any information linking them, but I did find, coincidentally, there was a mafia caporegime in the Gambino/Gotti family named Joe Paterno!


9 posted on 11/12/2011 6:10:48 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Figment
Gricar isn’t around to answer these questimns. Maybe the folks whose names end in vowels have a lot of influence at Pedophile ST U

Ray Gricar brother Roy also "suicided". Pittsburgh DA Robert Duggan; similar fate. The "guys" are very much all throughout PA; with the typical many connections inside government (classic). Big time mess; fixes, etc., at every turn, looks like it's been that way over 100 years based on my little reading.

IMHO...

The "guys" would not care about deviance at the college - or the college itself - as it does not affect their own family directly. They just like football ! And Joe is the perfect coach, so all is well for so many years.

Sandusky is just a little perv running his racket, "the boys" aren't too inclined to get that involved. Joe says he's ok, PSU knows they just have to keep a lid on it. I don't think "the boys" would think much about the PSU "brand" being bad for their business/the State of PA. PSU to them would be just a hobby, football, and Sandusky would just be some pervy dude that they laugh about.

Sandusky has the cojones to wave his client list around ? Insists on not being prosecuted ? Relies on Joe's good word ? All along nobody at PSU including Joe wants to open that can of worms publicly; but if only Sandusky will go down, why not cut him lose to save "the progam" ? Dunno...

Joe should have cut him lose years ago; was it Joe's loyalty to his player from way back in the 60's (Sandusky) that sunk the ship ?
10 posted on 11/12/2011 6:19:02 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Boogieman
I think he took off...the fact that he erases/destroyed his computers is very telling....

don't know if anything is related, but if you had a horrible crime to hide, wouldn't you want a slick cya district attorney on your case?.....makes everything so much easier...

11 posted on 11/12/2011 7:32:24 PM PST by cherry
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To: Boogieman

Who knows. He is obviously not around to defend his actions or inactions.


12 posted on 11/12/2011 8:57:46 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: cherry

One would think that in this day of the Internet a great deal could be determined without the actual hard drive. They apparently figured out what some of the last searches from his computer were (ie ‘how to destroy a hard drive’)

Almost as if this published summary of his last searches is an intentional misdirection.


13 posted on 11/12/2011 9:26:46 PM PST by Rippin
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To: Rippin

“They apparently figured out what some of the last searches from his computer were (ie ‘how to destroy a hard drive’)”

No, that info came from his home computer, not the DA’s office laptop.


14 posted on 11/12/2011 9:38:35 PM PST by miele man
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To: Boogieman

“Now, it’s probably the case that there was not enough evidence to make the charges stick...”

Well, I guess that was the case, since the next guy did take it to trial only to have things fall apart with the accused only copping to a minor charge and paying a fine.

It looks like Gricar had made the right call, or certainly a defensible one.


15 posted on 11/12/2011 11:15:11 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Boogieman
Thats the life of a DA, sometimes you choose not to prosecute based on the (lack of) facts. No matter what you "feel" about the alleged perp.

I just sat on a jury in a DUI case. After 7 hours of excruciating testimony, we the jury found the defendant Not Guilty (relatively quickly), and left the court wondering, why the hell the DA decided to try the case? It was a huge waste of money and time. The prosecution didn't look surprised or even very disappointed about the verdict either. It was like everyone was going through the motions...

16 posted on 11/13/2011 2:59:11 AM PST by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: Boogieman

There is also the PSU whitewash of Michael Mann whose “hockey stick” graph served the cause of climate change.

It seems to me there is a pattern of supporting showboats and casting ethics aside.


17 posted on 11/13/2011 4:11:04 AM PST by finnsheep
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To: miele man

I probably didn’t explain my thought very well. We seem to be able to figure out quite a bit about what was coming to and going from computers these days. It is hard to believe we can’t figure out what was coming to and leaving from the DAs business computer. All email trails completely destroyed? All attachments gone?


18 posted on 11/13/2011 5:01:18 AM PST by Rippin
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To: maggief

FYI ;)


19 posted on 11/13/2011 5:43:49 AM PST by BossLady
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To: Paradox
I just sat on a jury in a DUI case. After 7 hours of excruciating testimony, we the jury found the defendant Not Guilty (relatively quickly), and left the court wondering, why the hell the DA decided to try the case? It was a huge waste of money and time. The prosecution didn't look surprised or even very disappointed about the verdict either. It was like everyone was going through the motions...

It could be the defendant was 'connected' and the DA didn't want a conviction. This happens all the time when a cop commits a crime and the DA manipulates the grand jury proceedings so that there is no indictment issued. The DA gets his desired result and at the same time says it was the grand jury that disn't see enough evidence for an indictment.

20 posted on 11/13/2011 6:08:55 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: finnsheep
There is also the PSU whitewash of Michael Mann whose “hockey stick” graph served the cause of climate change.

Any graph that has a "hockey stick" is fraudulent.

21 posted on 11/13/2011 6:10:31 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: BossLady; Boogieman; Protect the Bill of Rights; abb

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Paterno dealing with more instability in Penn State program
Duluth News-Tribune (MN) - Wednesday, September 10, 2003
Author: ASSOCIATED PRESS: AP
There’s the sex talk and the booze talk and the gambling talk and the agents talk. And somehow, for some players, they don’t seem to do any good.

Leading into his biggest game so far this year — a prime-time television game at Nebraska on Saturday night — Penn State coach Joe Paterno had to answer questions Tuesday about more off-the-field incidents, this time involving a record-setting punter and a backup defensive lineman.

“Sometimes they drive me nuts,” Paterno said of his players. “Sometimes I think they’re great.”

Scott Paxson , who recorded Penn State’s only sack in last week’s 27-14 loss to Boston College, faces a preliminary hearing today on charges of criminal mischief and receiving stolen property. Police said they caught him riding a stolen bicycle.

And just hours after Jeremy Kapinos broke a freshman record by averaging 48.7 yards on six punts against Boston College — Penn State’s previous freshman record was 43.2 yards — he was charged with disorderly conduct and cited for underage drinking after university police responded to reports of a fight.

Both players remain on Penn State’s depth chart; Paterno wouldn’t say whether either would be held out of Saturday’s game for disciplinary reasons, although he said Paxson might not play for health reasons.

“I’m trying to be fair, that’s all I’ve got to do. You want me to say something now that I don’t know if I can say anything about,” Paterno said. “I’ve heard one side of the story. I’ve got to hear the other side of the story.”

Already it’s been a turbulent year:

* Just before practices began, Centre County (Pa.) District Attorney Ray Gricar announced he would not file charges against members of the football team in a fight that sent two Penn State wrestlers to the hospital. Gricar said neither the football players nor the wrestlers fully cooperated with the investigation.

* Nickel back Anwar Phillips was acquitted on sexual assault charges Aug. 26 and began practicing with the team just four days before Penn State’s opening game. Paterno was widely criticized for allowing Phillips to play in the Capital One Bowl last year after Phillips had been temporarily expelled.

* E.Z. Smith, one of just two veterans returning on the offensive line, was cited twice in one week this summer for underage drinking outside his on-campus apartment.

(snip)


22 posted on 11/13/2011 7:40:32 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

http://www.centredaily.com/2011/02/25/2544143/index-of-the-theories-february.html

Index of the Theories, February 2011
State College - Centre Daily Tim
Posted: 9:15am on Feb 25, 2011

The following is an index of theories about what happened to Former Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar
(snip)


23 posted on 11/13/2011 8:00:57 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: maggief

Regarding Roy:

“..The coroner later ruled Roy Gricar’s death a suicide by drowning. He reportedly had been fired from his job as a private contractor at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in the days leading up to his death and had suffered from bipolar disorder....”

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/25/case-of-missing-pa-district-attorney-ray-gricar-baffles-police/


24 posted on 11/13/2011 8:05:18 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: maggief

More about RAY (not Roy):

http://www.nampn.org/cases/gricar_ray.html
Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance
Missing Since: April 15, 2005 from Bellefonte, Pennsylvania
Classification: Endangered Missing
Date of Birth: October 9, 1945
Age: 59
Height: 6’0”
Weight: 170-172 lbs.
Hair Color: Brown/Gray
Eye Color: Green
Race: White
Gender: Male

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AKA: “Ray F. Gricar”, “Ray Lange”, “Ray Gray”


I am assuming the AKAs are names he might have used for reasons of privacy and security?


25 posted on 11/13/2011 8:11:54 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: maggief

http://sites.google.com/site/raygricar/home


26 posted on 11/13/2011 8:05:29 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: jocon307
"...the next guy did take it to trial only to have things fall apart...It looks like Gricar had made the right call..."

Or the "next guy" got leaned on and told he didn't want to end up like Gricar...

27 posted on 11/13/2011 8:11:08 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“Or the “next guy” got leaned on and told he didn’t want to end up like Gricar... “

I very much doubt Gricar got “disappeared” over this case.


28 posted on 11/13/2011 9:46:14 PM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307

I don’t think we’ll ever know one way or the other, so as long as you were offering one theory as to why the case collapsed, I was merely suggesting another.


29 posted on 11/13/2011 9:52:57 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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