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O.C. family returns to a violence-plagued Mexico
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER ^ | Nov. 12, 2011 | CINDY CARCAMO

Posted on 11/13/2011 8:21:17 AM PST by Pelham

Grace Castro should have joined her friends in August for her first year at Newport Beach's prestigious Sage Hill School. Instead, she's mourning the death of a schoolmate abducted from her Mexican private school by kidnappers who gouged out the teenager's eyes before killing him. Grace's life in her newly adopted home in drug-war-plagued Acapulco is a far cry from her childhood about 2,200 miles away in a yellow Craftsman house in the heart of Santa Ana. After 15 years in the United States, a family illness, unemployment and growing hostility toward illegal immigration compelled her family to make a change. Like many immigrant families in the United States, Alejandro and Berenice Castro and their eldest daughter, Michelle, lived in the country illegally; Grace, 14, and her younger sister, Alexis, 13, are U.S.-born citizens. The Castros thought a move to Acapulco would provide them with a new start, a reunion with family and was the right decision based on their circumstances. They were wrong. "This is not the Mexico I left 15 years ago," Alejandro Castro said, his eyes growing distant and misty. "It was beautiful, folkloric ... peaceful, cordial. The community was friendly. The faith was strong. It's no longer like this." They found that violence and suspicion infest the streets. Neighbors are wary of one another. And almost daily, local newspapers splash grisly photos on the front page of dismembered bodies of kidnapping victims – mirroring the family's worst fears.

LIFE IN SANTA ANA

In the damp basement they now call home, the Castro family huddled together on a couch, illuminated overhead by a single, purple-tinged fluorescent bulb, to reflect on the changes in their lives. In 1995, Alejandro and Berenice and their then-1-year-old daughter, Michelle, set up roots in Orange County after crossing the border illegally.

Alejandro...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: illegalimmigration; mexico; orangecounty; santaana

1 posted on 11/13/2011 8:21:25 AM PST by Pelham
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To: hinckley buzzard; A CA Guy; left that other site; Ken522; Regulator; Kenny Bunk; wardaddy; ...

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2 posted on 11/13/2011 8:24:36 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: Pelham
When the children are 18 they can return legally without parents.
With a fantastic education they'll get in Mexico I am sure they will return and find endless jobs willing to pay them the highest wages... NOT!
If they want to use their status as citizens at 18 to get the parents in here, they better show a LEGAL source for their money and a current job. I do not think it is beyond many to be narcos in Mexico and to then come to America with a ton of cash from Mexican banks.
IMO they then sell drugs here.
Just saying we have to watch this.
3 posted on 11/13/2011 8:27:04 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Pelham

“The turning point came when Berenice’s mother in Acapulco fell ill with cancer. It was a sign to Alejandro and Berenice that moving to Mexico to be close to family could be a solution to their problems.
The girls resisted the move and lived in denial those last few months, telling friends they’d most likely be around for the coming school year. Instead, they ended up packing in a last-minute whirlwind.
Whatever the family couldn’t sell, they gave away, leaving behind only a planter and a betta fish named Snowflake. Berenice’s sister, Karla Quezada, moved in and took over the mortgage payments.
“It was a very difficult decision and it continues to be that way,” Berenice said.
ADAPTING TO MEXICAN LIFE
In Mexico, nobody can pronounce Grace’s name. Administrators at Michelle’s private school refused to accept some of her U.S.-earned grades, forcing her back a year. Alexis can’t speak about her new life without breaking into tears.
A year later, the Castro family is still adjusting to life in Acapulco.
Grace, the middle child, is the most vocal about her new home, much to the chagrin of her mother, who grew up in Acapulco.
“If they told me we’re moving I wouldn’t even pack,” Grace said. “I’d just go.”


4 posted on 11/13/2011 8:28:09 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: Pelham
Administrators at Michelle’s private school refused to accept some of her U.S.-earned grades, forcing her back a year.
My first reaction was that this was BS.
But given the sorry state of some US schools, I'm not so sure.
5 posted on 11/13/2011 8:30:53 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Pelham

No one ever asks the question what has easy access to the United States cost Mexico?

Would Mexico be in the condition it is in today if we had locked down our borders, and made it more difficult for those that crossed illegally to stay?

The citizens of Mexico need to fix their own country. The United States can help but we can not fix it for them.


6 posted on 11/13/2011 8:30:58 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Pelham
And all of this trajedy is my problem how? I guess I'm just heartless. The story neglects the horror that illegals bestow on this country, from exotic disease to brutal crimes, liberally topped off with rampant illegal use of entitlement and charitable funds. Screw them.
7 posted on 11/13/2011 8:32:21 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Pelham
In violation for fifteen years and couldn't find the time to get right with the law. How folkloric of them.
8 posted on 11/13/2011 8:34:06 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: CIB-173RDABN

I have said here time and again that if the Mexican people would put just half the energy into fixing their country that they do into destroying ours then perhaps someday Mexico would be a Mexicans wouldn’t have to run away from.


9 posted on 11/13/2011 8:35:00 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Pelham

Obviously, this article was based in pure emotion, and little in the way of facts.

If Mexico was such a paradise 15 years ago, then why did they enter the US illegally? Wouldn’t they have preferred the paradise?

I once read a very persuasive opinion piece about the effects on Mexico of allowing illegal immigration to continue unchecked. The opinion was that our leniency towards illegal immigration allows the Mexican government to remain corrupt, by acting as a pressure valve. If we were more proactive about reducing illegal immigration, those unhappy citizens would be pressuring their government to clean up its act. The result would be a better Mexico.


10 posted on 11/13/2011 8:36:47 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

The corruption in Mexico is so ingrained in the population that I am not sure it could ever be changed. Every public official has their hand out and when they get paid off, their wives come out and ask for money. That is business as usual.


11 posted on 11/13/2011 8:37:05 AM PST by Ditter
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Their are arguments both ways about this, and probably some truth both sides: Mexico loses human capital because some of its most ambitious citizens emigrate (legally and illegally) to the US, but these immigrants remit large amounts of capital back to Mexico - if you travel in rural Mexico you can pretty much figure out from things like which house has a new roof which families are receiving such remittances.

In some very fundamental ways this exchange makes sense, demographically the US is going to have an increasing need for young immigrants, and at the family level many Mexicans are starved for capital, though of course the way in which this exchange currently occurs occurs is ill-conceived and poor managed.

But even with all the current problems the US is much better off than the parts of Europe which had the look to Islamic countries for the same labor force - many Mexican immigrants may be poorly educated and have some values that create problems integrating into American society, but the cultural gap is much narrower than for Islamic immigrants in Western European countries.

And on the whole they want to integrate; for example Mexican immigrants are learning English at a faster rate than most previous immigrant groups.


12 posted on 11/13/2011 8:42:33 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Pelham
In 1995 they "moved to" Orange County, one of the most expensive places in America?

I recall seeing some of the first Mexicanized places in Santa Ana and Costa Mesa a couple of years before that. 'Bout twisted my head off as I snapped back to look: the Mestizo colors on a building, purple and green, the rundown stucco.

Blew my mind to see it there. Not the Orange County of Walt Disney and Knotts Berry Farm.

Would be great if they really did leave, but this is a dream. Only a few will go. The rest will hang on desperately, draining California of welfare money, doing anything to stay - until the freebies run out. Which will be never, because they will be voting to keep them going.

And they will teach their children to be Mexicans. And so perpetuate the extortion, the intimidation, the nightmare that is Mexico.

And so California will become that place. The once beautiful and serene jewel in the American crown, Southern California...now the California Nightmare, not the California Dream.

13 posted on 11/13/2011 8:46:53 AM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Pelham

Perry’s and Newt’s natural constituents.


14 posted on 11/13/2011 8:50:01 AM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: exDemMom

Mexico is only a paradise for the elites, like the family that Jeb Bush married into. It’s the class that many of our national politicians associated with when they effectively decided to dissolve the border.


15 posted on 11/13/2011 8:50:45 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
demographically the US is going to have an increasing need for young immigrants

Bunk. We need to re-criminalize abortion and stop making it difficult for Americans to have children because of taxes and mass immgration.

The Americans have no need for the castoff children of Mexico.

If the American populace were to shrink naturally because of fewer children, what of it? There is no "need" for "young immigrants", especially with massive unemployment.

America was built for the Americans and "their posterity" as it points out in the Declaration. Not Mexico and its posterity...that's their problem, and they have land and resources to make it. They don't need or deserve ours.

16 posted on 11/13/2011 8:51:39 AM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Regulator

That transformation has happened to large parts of north Orange County. Average American neighborhoods change over quickly. Mexico has a strong culture and assimilation is optional.


17 posted on 11/13/2011 8:56:39 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“No one ever asks the question what has easy access to the United States cost Mexico?”

One cost is Mexican laborers abandoning the wife back in Mexico and taking a new one up here. The new wife has a kid and then the illegal alien parents have themselves an anchor baby, the ticket to a regular jackpot of taxpayer provided money.


18 posted on 11/13/2011 9:00:52 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

I had that exact same thought.


19 posted on 11/13/2011 9:20:27 AM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: Pelham
"It was beautiful, folkloric ... peaceful, cordial. The community was friendly. The faith was strong."

So you left the paradise of Mexico for the racist U.S.? What noble people, leaving behind the wonder of their native land to show us gringos "The Way."

20 posted on 11/13/2011 9:27:39 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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Grace, 14, and her younger sister, Alexis, 13, are U.S.-born citizens

The are Mexican citizens not USC's.

21 posted on 11/13/2011 9:31:00 AM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Pelham

It’s their country, they need to rise up and do something about it. That’s what we did back in 1776.


22 posted on 11/13/2011 9:33:18 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Pelham
Mexico has a strong culture and assimilation is optional

Well put. Most Americans can't understand the intensity of conviction that underpins Mexican culture. And assimilation is viewed as selling out, where the individual is termed a vendido, which is synonymous with "traitor".

It's one big gang, held together by intimidation and extortion.

And the gang has a juicy target, just to the North.

23 posted on 11/13/2011 9:36:26 AM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: GodfearingTexan

I’m supposed to feel badly? Why don’t the mexicans stay in their own country and fix it? Many years ago we spent several weeks-long trips driving all over Mexico from the border to Yucatan to Acapulco. I wouldn’t do that today. If the mexicans hadn’t irresponsibly abandoned their communities and country to the drug cartels and the corrupt politicians by illegally coming to the USA, maybe Mexico would be a better place now.


24 posted on 11/13/2011 9:39:52 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: hal ogen

I agree. They have lots of natural resources, just like the U.S., as well as practically no “enemies” of the traditional sort. The current establishment isn’t going to do anything because they’re the problem. It will require a revolution. But a revolution requires planning and organizing. The attention garnered in the process will give the cartels (and corrupt govt officials) the ability to destroy them.


25 posted on 11/13/2011 9:46:01 AM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: Pelham

increasing hostility to illegal immigrants?

meanwhile the press will NEVER compare our draconian laws to the ones in, say, Mexico


26 posted on 11/13/2011 10:06:47 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Pelham
The culture in Mexico has become so barbaric that it makes Afghanistan and Iraq look down right stable.

Even if you factor out the drugs and the drug cartels, your still left with a culture that embraces mass murder, kidnappings, bribery, extortion, child sex slavery, human trafficking, and terrorism.

If Mexico was an African or Middle Eastern nation, the rest of the world would be screaming for something to be done about it. As it is, Mexico seems to be immune from having to answer for any kind of crime, no matter how heinous. If Iran was guilty of half the stuff that is going on in Mexico RIGHT NOW, the U.S., Israel, and possibly even the French would have went in there years ago.

So, what do we do? We leave our borders wide open so that all the violence can spill over into the U.S. and since Phoenix is now the kidnapping capitol of North America, it's hard to say that the problems down south of the border aren't having an adverse impact on American lives and Phoenix is just one example of many.

Unfortunately political correctness and fear being labeled a racist trumps even the most vile human rights violation. Maybe one day after someone sneaks across the southern border and hits and American city with some kind of WMD will our politicians stop lying to us about the situation and do something about it, but I doubt even that will give Democrats or Republicans the slightest courage to deal with the issues south of the border. As an American General once said: "There are three nations that have the ability to take down America and they are Russia, China, and Mexico."

27 posted on 11/13/2011 10:35:22 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Pelham
The culture in Mexico has become so barbaric that it makes Afghanistan and Iraq look down right stable.

Even if you factor out the drugs and the drug cartels, your still left with a culture that embraces mass murder, kidnappings, bribery, extortion, child sex slavery, human trafficking, and terrorism.

If Mexico was an African or Middle Eastern nation, the rest of the world would be screaming for something to be done about it. As it is, Mexico seems to be immune from having to answer for any kind of crime, no matter how heinous. If Iran was guilty of half the stuff that is going on in Mexico RIGHT NOW, the U.S., Israel, and possibly even the French would have went in there years ago.

So, what do we do? We leave our borders wide open so that all the violence can spill over into the U.S. and since Phoenix is now the kidnapping capitol of North America, it's hard to say that the problems down south of the border aren't having an adverse impact on American lives and Phoenix is just one example of many.

Unfortunately political correctness and fear being labeled a racist trumps even the most vile human rights violation. Maybe one day after someone sneaks across the southern border and hits and American city with some kind of WMD will our politicians stop lying to us about the situation and do something about it, but I doubt even that will give Democrats or Republicans the slightest courage to deal with the issues south of the border. As an American General once said: "There are three nations that have the ability to take down America and they are Russia, China, and Mexico."

28 posted on 11/13/2011 10:38:32 AM PST by Carbonsteel
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"This is not the Mexico I left 15 years ago," Alejandro Castro said, his eyes growing distant and misty. "It was beautiful, folkloric ... peaceful, cordial. The community was friendly. The faith was strong."

So why did you leave, Alejandro? If you wanted to emigrate, why not do so legally?

29 posted on 11/13/2011 10:45:54 AM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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O.C. family returns to a violence-plagued Mexico

After 15 years in the United States ...

growing hostility toward illegal immigration ...

like many [illegal] immigrant families in the United States, ...

reunion with family was the right decision ...

He was wrong. [to invade the USA in the first place]

"This is not the Mexico I left 15 years ago,"

Cry me a flippin' river. Instead of invading a superior nation, and turning it into a third-world cesspool like their homeland, these commies could have stayed in their own country and voted in their own form of a constitutional government, and shaped their own nation into one that is habitable.

Like every other former Spanish or Portuguese colony, most being very rich in natural resources, the incestuous combination of corruption, communism, and Catholicism has been an ongoing disaster.

30 posted on 11/13/2011 10:56:09 AM PST by meadsjn
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