Posted on 11/13/2011 5:25:57 PM PST by Swordmaker
Living in China and reporting on gadgets, we get to see our fair share of unofficial merchandise from Chinese manufacturers. These ‘knock-offs’ can range from fake iPad 2 smart covers, to complete replicas of iPhones of even MacBooks!
Sometimes though a Chinese made gadget crops up which combines the ancient Chinese art of the knock off with a complete lack of consideration for the law and copyright infringements, and this ‘Commemorative’ Steve Jobs Android tablet is a perfect example!
Not only have Shenzhen Lingyun, the company behind this 7-inch Android tablet, made a tablet which resembles the look of the iPhone 4 and 4S, but they have gone the whole hog and place the image of the late Steve Jobs on the screen and are marketing it as a ‘Commemorative Steve Jobs Android Tablet’!
Not only is the idea of a ‘Commemorative Steve Jobs Android Tablet’ an oxymoron, but it is also pretty disrespectful to the memory of the Apple founder!
The tablet itself is a fairy normal 7-inch Android tablet, which can be found branded as the LY-F-4S, features a PV210 processor, 512M memory, 4G storage, built-in Bluetooth, WiFi, front facing camera.
In the past we have also come across an unofficial ‘Angry Birds’ version of the Wopad V7 Android tablet, and we have heard rumors of a ‘Plants Vs. Zombies’ model heading for stores soon too!
Heh... That’s okay, I will carry on... My sister would appreciate your concern though...
Okay...heh. Let all here go buy according to your facts.
Twice as much as the commorative Bill Gates tablet.
I’d guess that if you have a pristine tablet, it will be worth a lot more (maybe 10 times) than you pay for it today.. (if you keep it in that shape for another 30 years)...
That of course depends on if our economy does not collapse as the Greeks and Italians have... Considering the state of our politics, not a good bet...
If he’s trying to draw me out, he’s not doing a very good job of it, as there’s little bait to be had.
You’re free to cross-check. Given that the Internet is the greatest repository of information in human history, it should be quick and trivial for you. Enjoy!
I use a huge range of computers and other devices, some from Apple, most not. I choose them based on the fit to function (I try to select based on the task I need to do), not the logo, and usually not the price either.
So I've got an LG stupidphone; a couple of MP3 players (an iPod Touch and a Samsung); some HP computers and some Apple computers and a Fujitsu computer and a Sony Vaio; I got an iPad a few weeks ago; my monitors and DVD gear are all Samsung; my hard drives are Glyph. Each unit was purchased based on a need that the particular choice satisfied better than any other product on the market at the time.
So are the Apple products "more expensive"? Nope, not at all, if you're buying primarily on functionality, with price secondary.
If you're buying strictly on price, shop at Walmart. De-prioritize (or don't consider at all) things like functionality, robustness, service, useful lifetime, or resale value. Only consider initial purchase price. In -that- world, Apple gear is more expensive.
There are certainly a lot of crazed Apple enthusiasts out there. They drive me crazy because they're unable to see past the logo. Then again, there are a bunch of anti-Apple folks who can't see past it either.
But really, the past three or so years, the Apple enthusiasts are actually in the minority of Apple customers. Check that out.
Mercy, you folks are sensitive...
I’m not trying to do anything...(much less put down Apple). Have been in the Computer business all my life (way before you were probably born).
Apple has some great products! Isn’t that enough that I say that?
I am just saying that 1) They are expensive and propriety and 2) They are expensive...
No, they have no thumb on the pulse of today’s technology. It is moving way too fast for Apple or anyone else to stay in a leading position. What they do have is a brand name and decent technology.
To expect that to continue is to deny the reality that progress (ie advances in technology) is not going to outperform the larger companies.
I am speaking the normal transfer of wealth from the major companies (in technology) to the up starts in technology that are coming... To deny that is to ignore that is to ignore trends and history.
Sure sounded like that... have had the same treatment before. Apple people tend to be a bit “concerned” about comments about the Apple industry...
From you, no intent taken...
If you’re buying strictly on price, shop at Walmart. De-prioritize (or don’t consider at all) things like functionality, robustness, service, useful lifetime, or resale value. Only consider initial purchase price. In -that- world, Apple gear is more expensive.
Most of those statements are just crap!
One - you buy on the internet from a know decent technology company.
Two - you buy individual items based on quality and performance. If you can’t build your own PC today, you are living in a cave. If you are a caveman, you can always get it built to your specifications from many sources at a minimal price.
Three - You need to worry little about lifetime of the product because it will be out of date within 3 years at the most. No worries, you can always update individual components.
Four - You shop around for price.
Five - Do NOT buy a complete product - it will not only be obsolete in 3 years, you will spend a fortune to upgrade it.
If all you’re looking at is a spec sheet, Apple products look bad. It’s where you’re actually using the things day after day that you realize why Apple is so good.
Yep, you and many others look at it that way...
Exactly WHAT limitation are those? I'm really interested to know. I'm wondering exactly what I cannot do on my 27" Intel iMac. Right now it's running OSX 7 Lion, Micosoft Windows 7 ultimate edition, Microsoft Windows XP, UNIX, And Ubuntu Linux, ALL AT THE SAME TIME! The two virtual Windows machines are running sandboxed, prevented from accessing the Internet, for their safety. . . and so I don't have to waste system resources running AV on them.
So, what can your obvious uninformed ignorance of Apple products from a biased "factual review" tell me about their "limitations" that I don't know? Perhaps I should tell you I make a good portion of my income supporting both PCs and Macs in business environments. . . I know what I'm talking about. You don't.
> Most of those statements are just crap!
Oh, I daresay they're not, but you're welcome to your opinion.
> One - you buy on the internet from a know decent technology company.
Always, unless the local BestBuy (or. equiv.) has it cheaper and I'm in the neighborhood.
> Two - you buy individual items based on quality and performance. If you can’t build your own PC today, you are living in a cave. If you are a caveman, you can always get it built to your specifications from many sources at a minimal price.
Of course. I've been building my own computers since around 1975. And while I know what you mean (assemble modules), I also have built truly from scratch, wire-wrapping individual chips, for example. You can get off your high horse now, BTW.
> Three - You need to worry little about lifetime of the product because it will be out of date within 3 years at the most. No worries, you can always update individual components.
Sometimes true. I've however been disappointed multiple times by inexpensive lower-quality gear that broke within a year or so. I've never had a high-quality product (e.g. from Apple, Fujitsu, Samsung) crap out on me within its useful lifetime.
> Four - You shop around for price.
True but only AFTER you've selected the product you want based on the other factors. Find the best price on what you want, not the lowest price for something that isn't what you want.
> Five - Do NOT buy a complete product - it will not only be obsolete in 3 years, you will spend a fortune to upgrade it.
For most computers, true. For handhelds, nah, they're pretty much complete, period.
Ummmm, not quite, my FRiend.
I'm 60, I've been programming for over 40 years, and I've been designing, building, and producing computers and computer products for over 35 years. My first CPU design was done in TTL, and was constructed before Intel's 8080 chip was available. I programmed in assembler for 8080, 6800, 6502, 6809, and 8086, before switching to C.
To be correct in my case, you'd have to have been working in the computer business since before World War II. Possible, but unlikely.
I know, you were talking to Terpfen. But I couldn't resist answering anyway. :)
> ...since before World War II.
Meant to say "...since before the Korean War". My bad.
Wow. No fanbois here (I’m agnostic in the war. I use Windows, UNIX, Mac and Android, used to use Palm) but that is just wrong.
heh, always nice to have an opinion from those in the know - or at least I think so...
“Always, unless the local BestBuy (or. equiv.) has it cheaper and I’m in the neighborhood.”
Geez, just who even considers BestBuy as a provider of best value?
“Of course. I’ve been building my own computers since around 1975. And while I know what you mean (assemble modules), I also have built truly from scratch, wire-wrapping individual chips, for example. You can get off your high horse now, BTW.”
Hehe, good for you... Wire wrapping chips - surely you are kidding! They did not have chips when I was wire-wrapping (Still have my wire-wrapping gun by the way). I was wire-wrapping long before you in the 60’s - but of course, they were much larger computer modules then...(by modules, I mean a conglomeration of components that the upper echelon decided was a “module”... Actually built my first semi-computer via wire-wrapping - called the TV typewriter.
Building you own computer is like assembling a coffee-pot today...
By the way, I did have a grand time when the first actual DTL and TTL chips actually were able to be purchased. That was where I learned most of my information. I was working for Datapoint when they introduced the first computer (and chip by accident). Had a fun time designing and building my own circuits...heh.
I was working with Datapoint when they introduced the first computer (4004 chip, 8008 chip, and eventually the 8080 chip), worked with the fellow that developed the xmodem protocal and other initial computer ideas... so - don’t get on your high-horse to me. Look it up on the internet!
“Three - You need to worry little about lifetime of the product because it will be out of date within 3 years at the most. No worries, you can always update individual components.”
Sometimes true. I’ve however been disappointed multiple times by inexpensive lower-quality gear that broke within a year or so. I’ve never had a high-quality product (e.g. from Apple, Fujitsu, Samsung) crap out on me within its useful lifetime.”
You seem to have had a fortunate experience that I have not had... Now I have had products last well beyond their usefulness though...but really needed tossing or upgrading.
“True but only AFTER you’ve selected the product you want based on the other factors. Find the best price on what you want, not the lowest price for something that isn’t what you want.”
Sorry, but the best price for a particular product that you want is just that - the best price for THAT product.
“Five - Do NOT buy a complete product - it will not only be obsolete in 3 years, you will spend a fortune to upgrade it.
For most computers, true. For handhelds, nah, they’re pretty much complete, period.”
Ah, yes, for computers that is absolutely true, for other items, probably less than 3 years. I was exaggerating a bit to state that the technology would hold for 3 years. For those products, you would probably have to upgrade every year or so...
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