Skip to comments.Freep This Poll - Do you agree with the judge's decision in the flag T-shirt lawsuit?
Posted on 11/15/2011 2:38:32 PM PST by Aintgonnajumpnomore
Please take a moment to vote in the following poll:
"Do you agree with the judge who ruled in favor of the school district in the case in which two administrators sent four students home for wearing American-themed clothing in Cinco de Mayo?"
This stems from a 2009 incident where 5 boys in our community wore US flag shirts to school on Cinco de Mayo, and were sent home by the principal and VP for doing so. Students wearing the colors of the Mexican flag were allowed to remain in school.
The following day, about 200 hispanic kids marched out of school "for respect" waving Mexican flags down the street as they went.
To this day, only the boys who wore US flag apparel have been punished. The school district, and everyone who wants to represent their Mexican pride by walking out of school in protest, suffered no consequences
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thank you for you consideration. We need help in California.
....I can’t believe this question is even being asked - and that there are people that will agree with this decision. :(
And everyone wonders why this nation is going down the crapper. :(:(:(:(
Question: Do you agree with the judge ... ?
The students should wear the US flag everyday of the school year.
The should state they are ‘offended’ by the mexican flag being worn on july 4th, flag day, lincoln’s birthday, Washington’s birthday, veteran’s day, constitution day, groundhog day, valentine’s day, and every day that ends with a ‘Y’.
If the ruling was meant to support a school’s authority to action there may have been some merit.
But we know the purpose was to hate America.
I bet if the point is to ‘not offend’ I could find some clothing worn on that same day which would have offended me, and I would have been required to shut up and deal with it.
trouble is- the kids have all of those days off.
Right now there are only about 170 votes, but it is evenly split at 50%-50%. (Which speaks volumes about this town)
For the record, those who support the judges decision are basically saying that the boys did this to get a reaction. They were acting in a provocative manner by dressing that way.
To me, that doesn’t make a bit of difference, but that’s how people who feel differently than me justify their conclusion that it’s okay to disrespect our flag...because those boys were being mean.
They just don’t get it. And I doubt they ever will.
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60% no, now.
A similar situation happened just over the hill in Denair (central valley of California).
13-year-old boy (Cody Alicea, I think his name is) was told he couldn’t fly Old Glory off the back of his bike due to “safety concerns”. Like just the sight of a US flag is enough to send certain people into a blind rage.
This state has gone to complete cr@p
“The following day, about 200 hispanic kids marched out of school “for respect” waving Mexican flags down the street as they went.”
And just keep marching until you cross the border.
Just think about this.
One of those kids could have a family member fighting in a war zone to defend the flag the kid was suspended for having a picture on his shirt.
That it was Cinco Mayo is not relevant. This is America not Mexico. Those of Hispanic descent are free to celebrate their the day and no one was stopping them. That they would be offended seeing an America flag in America is just silly. The school administrator that suspended them should be fired.
They marched from the school...to City Hall...and to Taco Bell.
I’m not joking. I couldn’t make this stuff up. That’s really where they marched to. LOL
So I guess they did ‘make a run for the border’. Sorry...it was too easy.
Here’s what the gutless principal at Live Oak High School should have said over the PA system on 4 May last year: “The American flag is welcome at this school every day of the week. Any Hispanic student who has a problem with that and creates contention of any kind, will be EXPELLED immediately. Have a great day.”
5 May is a “celebration” of an inconsequential fight in ONE Mexican state,Puebla, in 1862 between France and Mexico because Mexico didn’t pay it’s debt. Get over it.
Make wearing our colors MANDATORY. Let the illegals cry back to messy co.
Just an extra tidbit...2 of the boys who were sent home for wearing USA colors are of Hispanic descent.
Which put a bit of a damper on them being called racists. But they are still being called racists, nearly 2 years after the incident
Won’t take a no vote, I get a 404 message
It’s working again. We might have broken it, momentarily.
The “No’s” are now at 70%.
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This isn’t an issue with the school OR the administration. It is an issue of the PARENTS who quietly accept this kind of crap from school administrators who are typically paid six figures to generate “policies” that excuse them from having to do their jobs.
As long as the parents allow school administrators to flash a “policy” in front of them without a whimper, NOTHING will change. PARENTS need to develop their own “policy” that starts out with they don’t accept school “policies” that excuse administrators for being stupid, lazy, incompetent and overpaid!!
There was a time when school administrators actually had to earn their salaries by dealing with students one-on-one on a case-by-case basis. Now, they just whip out a policy so that they don’t have to deal directly with the students OR their parents. Imagine the expression on an administrator’s face when he thrusts policy under some parent’s nose, and the parent thrusts one back that rejects his policy!!
THAT, my FRiends, would be PRICELESS!!!
I will try again.
No - 74%
Voted. 70+% saying no.
Ooops - make that 73%
Why they did it is irrelevant.
They have a right too. The First Amendment doesn’t just protect illegals - it’s meant for all of us.
I could kind of see a point if this symbol truly could be considered threatening. But it was an American flag shirt.
Also one of the theories of public education was that everyone would learn to get along even though there is a wide array of opinions.
And it’s a complete mystery to roughly half this country why we’re going down the drain. :(
No = 76%
Ridiculous school admin and doubly ridiculous judge.
Well of course we don’t agree with it.
** Instead of punishing the Mexican Bullies - they went after the poor kid who supported their nation.
I am disgusted
What I get from this ruling is that the judge ruled in favor of the school penalizing these students because the judge realizes that the school administration cannot protect these students from a bunch of illegal immigration thugs.
Which makes me wonder why any American parent, after hearing or reading about the judge’s ruling, would willingly send their kids to this particular school.
Cyberschools are opening up all over the country. Several are opening in my state next year as charters. Students can learn in the privacy of their own homes. In the future, no one will have to send their kids to a school whose administration is so clueless or gutless they can’t or won’t protect AMERICAN students (for whatever reason) from illegal immigration Mexican thugs!
When I showed this story to my husband (born in Mexico but a proud naturalized American citizen) he was so frustrated with the administration and the students who marched out of the school. He says they just don’t get it. If they are so devoted to Mexico they should go back there permanently. He would never return, loves it here.
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