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UPDATE: Woman Goes Through Several Surgeries Following Snake Attack
http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/Woman_Suffering_Snake_Bites_in_Intensive_Care_133999668.html ^ | 11/17/2011 | Brooks Jarosz, Cathleen Moxley

Posted on 11/17/2011 5:50:49 PM PST by Morgana

UPDATE: Thursday 11/17 @ 6:55 p.m. MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- A young woman has already undergone four surgeries and is still in intensive care after suffering not one, but two copperhead snake bites.

Tara Williams, 21, of Logan was on a hunting trip with her boyfriend three weeks ago in Ritchie County when she stepped on a large copperhead snake. Click here to find out more!

Tara's mom tells WSAZ.com, the snake snapped at her and bit her twice and her boyfriend drove her to the hospital.

"Right now, mentally, she's having a hard time with this," said Tara's mother Mitzi Williams. "You know this is going to be rehabilitating for her."

Tara was on a ventilator Wednesday night as doctors removed part of her calf muscle and continued to try and relieve pressure.

Tara's mother, Mitzi Williams, is a nurse and has been by Tara's side since the accident.

"I mean I'm on the other side of the fence now," said Mitzi Williams. "You know I help others and it's different when it's your own -- it's hard to handle."

It's a painful reality as Tara's leg had to be sliced open to relieve the swelling and pressure.

She spent three days in the emergency room and a couple weeks later is when things took a turn for the worse.

Her mother says she was getting sick from the anti-venom and suffered more swelling.

"When this all happened to her, she knew, she knew what was going on," said Mitzi Williams. "She was terrified, frightened, she knew what it was coming to."

Familiar with the signs and symptoms as a respiratory therapy grad, Tara is now putting her faith in her surgeon's hands.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsaz.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: copperhead; morgantown; snake; wva
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1 posted on 11/17/2011 5:50:50 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Slings and Arrows
again...who has the snake ping? Mongoose and snake
2 posted on 11/17/2011 5:52:23 PM PST by Morgana (This space for rent.........cheap)
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To: Morgana

Two snake bites and anaphylaxis to boot. That’s a bad day.


3 posted on 11/17/2011 5:58:46 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Morgana

“who has the snake ping?”

Laz?


4 posted on 11/17/2011 6:00:40 PM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Morgana

Though not often deadly to an adult—or so I have read—the bite of a copperhead snake is something to be concerned about. An old guy once told me that he had been bitten on a finger while a youngster by a copperhead and that finger has been curled and useless all his life. Apparently, the poison went into once of the nerves on the finger.


5 posted on 11/17/2011 6:00:51 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Morgana
Don't take chances -- avoid Copperhead snakes.
6 posted on 11/17/2011 6:01:37 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

A mongoose is your new pet.


7 posted on 11/17/2011 6:01:53 PM PST by Morgana (This space for rent.........cheap)
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To: Morgana

Prayers up for her recovery!


8 posted on 11/17/2011 6:04:43 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: OldPossum

I had a friend who went through that, but she was only bitten once. It was awful. Took a long time and much medical care to recover.


9 posted on 11/17/2011 6:05:13 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Morgana

Agh, poor lady. My dad was from just outside of Wheeling, W. Va, and he saw plenty of those dang things growing up.


10 posted on 11/17/2011 6:05:46 PM PST by DemforBush (Send lawyers, guns, and money. Dad get me out of this!)
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To: Morgana
Copperheads is exactly why I keep a .38 loaded with home brew rat shot hanging near the door.
11 posted on 11/17/2011 6:07:22 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Morgana

I caught a copperhead in my living room a few years ago.

I didn’t recognize it. I caught it live, put it in a small trash can. Our neighbor was a school teacher who was always taking different animals to school. She freaked out when I offered it to her; she knew what it was.


12 posted on 11/17/2011 6:14:13 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DemforBush; WVNan

I have seen copperheads in Northern Kanawha county. Let me tell you what, those things take steroids.

Was at a camp reunion and saw one of those suckers. Two camp buddies passed right by the snake as it was sleeping on the ground. I was right behind them, saw them pass by it and froze! I screamed “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH” and just pointed at it. People came running was was asking “WHAT MORGANA??” I just kept screaming and pointing at it. Finally I was able to say the word “SNAKE!” then they saw it. The copperhead woke up and looked around as if to say “what is going on here?”

Then people asked “why didn’t you say something when you saw the snake?” I said I did!! I said “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH”!!!! Didn’t you hear me in Canada and clearly?


13 posted on 11/17/2011 6:15:50 PM PST by Morgana (This space for rent.........cheap)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Snake Ping


14 posted on 11/17/2011 6:19:17 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Morgana

I’m in line with the “sperts”; its really late in the year for a snake to be out. Perhaps the lady was near a den site. (Copperheads den enmasse, and usually return to the den they left in the spring.)

Copperheads are extremely hard to see - as I can attest from personal experience - often your nose is a better detector than your eyes; as they exude a distinctive odor. I also suspect the snake - already panicked by being stepped on - got hung up on her clothing hence inflicted a second bite.

Venom, (a highly specialized form of saliva ), exacts a heavy nutritional penalty for the snake, so they don’t expend it casually. Given its druthers most native snakes will “dry bite” or inject just a tiny amount of venom. (I suspect this most often happens when they strike bare skin.) In the instance described I suspect one; it was a large snake, and two; it expended two very large doses of venom.

The lady has already had a rough time and is due for more, along with scarring and probably some degree of physical disability . Sad, but “enjoying the wild” means acceptance of a degree of risk from its native inhabitants. Best wishes for her recovery ! >PS


15 posted on 11/17/2011 6:20:09 PM PST by PiperShade
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To: Morgana

When I was six living in Sumter, SC, I once filled my pockets with what I thought were “worms”. I was an independent kid and after a day of roaming through the swamps I came home where my Mother made me strip and immediately threw my clothes into the washer. I heard my Mother scream a few minutes later. Seems the little “worms” had swam out of my jean pockets and were treading water in the washer. Come to find out, they were Copperheads. I spent the next few hours with the medics and parents going over me head to toe in case I had been bitten. Later that night my parents went over my butt several times with a belt. From then on, my Mother made me turn my pockets inside out before I came back into the house.


16 posted on 11/17/2011 6:20:14 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Morgana
An account has been set up for to aid in the recovery, as well as expenses for the Family. You may mail them to: Logan Bank & Trust c/o Tara Williams Recovery Fund - Greg Williams PO Box 597 Logan, WV 25601.

“No amount is to large or to small. Please help this family in such an unexpected, tragic time.”

Man. She hunts too. I think I have a plane to catch.


17 posted on 11/17/2011 6:21:56 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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18 posted on 11/17/2011 6:22:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: thackney

Dude, you are freaking nuts. And sell the damn house.


19 posted on 11/17/2011 6:24:32 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: patton
We live near by but we moved out of that house to go to Alaska and have moved back.

That house had a large creek nearby and a golf course between us. We had all kinds of critters including Alligators on the fairways.

20 posted on 11/17/2011 6:26:28 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: PiperShade

Copperheads are hard to see? I spot them right off! Like the one I saw sleeping on the path in post 13! Then again I am used to being in the country and I keep an eye out for them and that may be why. This girl may not be as used to the country as I am.


21 posted on 11/17/2011 6:26:34 PM PST by Morgana (This space for rent.........cheap)
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To: Morgana

As a teen, I caught copperheads in the hayfields by stepping on them just behind the head with running shoes and grabbing them just behind the head. Copperheads aren’t very fast, but they usually lay in quiet wait to bite passers-by (or often someone who actually steps on the copperhead). IIRC, they sense body heat from prey. They’re not pit vipers and don’t have long fangs. Wearing thick, tall boots and jeans can sometimes prevent effective bites...sometimes.


22 posted on 11/17/2011 6:28:39 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: vetvetdoug; Morgana

You know those little ones are actually MORE poisonus?

Morgana is the only one one this thread with a degree of sense.

Neighbor’s horse got bit by a copperhead, once - it’s face rotted off.


23 posted on 11/17/2011 6:29:01 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: patton

“You know those little ones are actually MORE poisonus?”

that is actually an urban legand.

They are not more poisonous they are AS poisonous. Meaning their venom is equal to that of adult snakes.


24 posted on 11/17/2011 6:31:06 PM PST by Morgana (This space for rent.........cheap)
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To: vetvetdoug

When I was about 5 or so, I found a bunch of yellow jacket wasps. I walked up to my mom, who was talking to a neighbor and tugged on her dress repeatedly. Finally she acknowledged me and I opened my hand to show her several fully alive wasps, none of whom stung me. That scream is probably still echoing!

The Lord really does look after fools and small children.


25 posted on 11/17/2011 6:31:19 PM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: thackney

Should have stayed in Alaska. ;)


26 posted on 11/17/2011 6:33:22 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Morgana

Measured by toxicity per gram, more poisonus.


27 posted on 11/17/2011 6:35:30 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: familyop

Copperhead ARE pit vipers.

http://www.petplace.com/dogs/snakebites-from-a-copperhead-pit-viper-snake-venom-rattlesnake-crotalidae/page1.aspx


28 posted on 11/17/2011 6:37:57 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: patton

They used to joke with us Texans in Alaska.

You could tell the newly arrived Texans in Alaska; when walking in the woods, we would be watching the ground.

They told us to quit looking for snakes and spiders. The things that kill and hurt you up there are big and you can see them coming.


29 posted on 11/17/2011 6:41:14 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Yeah, mosquitos. Saw one fly away with a rabit in each talon, once.


30 posted on 11/17/2011 6:43:17 PM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Clay Moore

When I was about 5 I climbed into a bunch of bamboo, the yellow jackets found me, and did they ever have fun.


31 posted on 11/17/2011 6:49:15 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Morgana

We used to say here in Texas that nuthin’ kin ruin a squirrel hunt like seein’ a copperhead. Won’t see no squirrels rest of the day!....


32 posted on 11/17/2011 6:56:32 PM PST by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: OldPossum

When my dad was a kid he was bitten on the middle finger tip by a copperhead. It killed the meat on the side of his last digit and he had a half a fingernail and kind of pointed fingertip for the rest of his life.

The cottonmouth bite he got on his foot when he was a kid healed much better.


33 posted on 11/17/2011 6:57:50 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Morgana

When I was a kid in Missouri, I used to catch snakes all the time at summer camp. One day I brought back a copperhead I caught that was curled up in a bush. Never seen such a look on the counselor’s face before...


34 posted on 11/17/2011 7:10:48 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: Morgana

A copperhead laying in a combination of fallen pinestraw and oak leaves (like most of the south looks today) is nearly impossible to see. The coloring is an exact match.

Every copperhead bite I have heard about resulted in necrotic loss of flesh and muscle. Disfiguring and long rehab time.


35 posted on 11/17/2011 7:35:08 PM PST by wrench
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To: PiperShade

My daddy once told me he saw an old black about to clear out a brush pile. The old man twisted a dog’s ear to make it yelp. He explained that if a copperhead was in the brush it would emit it’s odor. Don’t know if that’s true but I have experienced it. Very bitter smell.


36 posted on 11/17/2011 7:40:52 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: Morgana

“You know this is going to be rehabilitating for her.”

Uh, that should read “debilitating”?


37 posted on 11/17/2011 7:47:49 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Morgana

LOL. I’ll summon him when I get home.


38 posted on 11/17/2011 7:49:11 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Morgana

Tara’s mother, Mitzi Williams, is a nurse and has been by Tara’s side since the accident.

Oh my goodness. A Nurse who doesn’t know the difference between debilitating and rehabilitating.....a victim who is a respiratory therapy grad.....geez. Good Lord spare me an mine from these medical professionals.


39 posted on 11/17/2011 7:55:43 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Morgana

This is what happens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg


40 posted on 11/17/2011 8:00:23 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: thackney

You corrected my comment correctly. I had been erroneously taught in the past that only snakes with long fangs are pit vipers, but it is, in fact, the heat sensing ability (along with being venomous), that makes them pit vipers.

But copperheads do not have long fangs and are not as likely to penetrate as much as, for example, the sometimes seven-foot-plus diamondbacks that I grew up with in Texas (including school playgrounds). Thick, tall boots and heavier pants are a good extra safety measure around copperheads, although not nearly as important as watching for them.


41 posted on 11/17/2011 8:00:47 PM PST by familyop
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To: Morgana

My four-year granddaughter was bit by a smaller coppehead on Mother’s Day 2010 (upstate SC). Rushed her to the hospital. Took several hours before the staff was able to start administering anti-venom. She was in the hospital three days and came through fine. Staff determined that she had been struck three times, with one of the three appearing to be the worst. Since moving here three years previous, I having a love-hate thing going with the backyard due to lots of pine trees and large patches of english ivy spread about, but after this happened, we went on a rampage to get rid of the ivy and some more of the trees. It doesn’t help that there’s a heavily wooded lot next door. Thank God, though, our precious Chloe came through with no problems. By several weeks later, for her, it was pretty much forgotten.


42 posted on 11/17/2011 9:47:42 PM PST by nfldgirl
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To: IMR 4350
When I was about 5 I climbed into a bunch of bamboo, the yellow jackets found me, and did they ever have fun.

When I was a kid, I was poking at some yellow jackets and one stung me on the back of the neck, when I screamed, one flew into my mouth and stung the roof of my mouth.

I think the little bastards planned it that way.

43 posted on 11/17/2011 10:11:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: Morgana

Belly laugh, your friends are deaf..


44 posted on 11/17/2011 10:23:05 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Graybeard58

I had a yellow jacket drop down the front of my shirt, stung me, fell down to my stomach stung me again and with all the jumping I was doing fell out my slacks and stung me again on the top of my foot....they don’t quit stinging until you stomp on them....We had some get in between the cinder blocks in the old milk house....You spray and then run like hell...hubby use to sit on the porch and laugh at me. He wasn’t going after those damm things...


45 posted on 11/17/2011 10:35:43 PM PST by goat granny
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To: vetvetdoug
Later that night my parents went over my butt several times with a belt.

Like a divining rod to find snakes?
46 posted on 11/17/2011 10:38:32 PM PST by Krankor
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To: Morgana

http://s4.hubimg.com/u/101891_f520.jpg


47 posted on 11/17/2011 10:44:11 PM PST by kcvl
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To: familyop

When i was a boy scout in the Canal Zone one of the kids got bit by a local snake - a few de lance. I heard he lost his leg.

I also heard that they closed the Boy Scout Camp (Chagres) because two were killed from snake bites. Anybody know about that?


48 posted on 11/17/2011 10:49:28 PM PST by Loud Mime (The Enemy Within is the greatest enemy)
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To: JouleZ

the narration on that video sound like its from the flaming section of san francisco.


49 posted on 11/17/2011 10:53:41 PM PST by Loud Mime (The Enemy Within is the greatest enemy)
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To: Morgana
again...who has the snake ping? Mongoose and snake

If you're curious about the outcome, check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdg9gkmWsEA

Democrats are cobras. Republicans are mongeese.

50 posted on 11/17/2011 11:02:00 PM PST by cynwoody
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