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Weekly Gardening Thread 2011 (Vol. 45) November 18
Free Republic | 11-18-2011 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 11/18/2011 5:11:32 AM PST by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners. Thanksgiving is next week and I hope all Freepers enjoy a bountiful feast with family and friends. Don’t forget to give thanks, it can turn a meal into a feast.

A reminder for those of you who have a frozen turkey, for every 4 pounds of turkey it will take a day to thaw in the refrigerator. A 20-pound turkey will take 5 days so you need to start defrosting it tomorrow. If your turkey will not fit into your fridge defrost it in an ice chest with ice.

If the turkey is allowed to thaw at a temperature above 40 ºF, any harmful bacteria that may have been present before freezing can begin to grow again unless proper thawing methods are used.

You can also thaw it in a cold-water bath. Allow about 30 minutes per pound when thawing a turkey in cold water. A 20-pound turkey will take 10 hours using this method. Be sure to change the water often. Turkeys thawed by the cold-water method should be cooked immediately because conditions were not temperature controlled.

Ok Freepers this means no thawing of the turkey on the back porch or in the trunk of your car!

If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.


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1 posted on 11/18/2011 5:11:34 AM PST by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Ping to the Weekly Gardening Ping List.

I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

If you would like to be added to or removed from the list please let me know by FreepMail or by posting to me.

2 posted on 11/18/2011 5:13:11 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Almost IBTP.


3 posted on 11/18/2011 5:14:50 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat

My collards are doing great, btw.


4 posted on 11/18/2011 5:15:31 AM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Red_Devil 232

2012 seed catalogs are arriving...check your mailboxes.


5 posted on 11/18/2011 5:21:04 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

“Don’t forget to give thanks, it can turn a meal into a feast.”

Excellent reminder!

Speaking of gardening, I have some really gorgeous lettuce, spinach and kale in my cold frames. I also have four big broccoli plants with nice medium-sized heads of broccoli already. I covered the broccoli last night....since our temp dropped to 27 last night.

In mid-spring, we plan to put up a very nice Israeli-engineered greenhouse (small 8 X 12). I just got a small heater for that greenhouse at half price (am concerned about inflation next year). We are thinking about setting that greenhouse on a base of pea gravel. Anyone have other suggestions?


6 posted on 11/18/2011 5:21:29 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: who knows what evil?

“2012 seed catalogs are arriving”.

I got my first one yesterday. I keep them for the long, drawn out Winter months. If it is snowing, you can bet that I am looking through them and marking what seeds or plants I want for the Spring.


7 posted on 11/18/2011 5:24:33 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Red_Devil 232

Blessed rain is falling now! I have planted all kinds of salad greens and they look GREAT!!!!


8 posted on 11/18/2011 5:26:35 AM PST by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Two nights of hard freeze hear this week caught me and ended my garden for this year. Had great plans for getting a hot house up before it froze but procrastination ended the need.


9 posted on 11/18/2011 5:28:39 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Red_Devil 232
It looks like almost all of our pullets are now laying. Barb has been recording all eggs and the sizes have been creeping up into the large zone until yesterday when she found a 3 oz egg (Jumbo)!

We sold our first dozen this week.

10 posted on 11/18/2011 5:29:27 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Not to much to report from central Texas. It is still dry and not much rain in the forecast. The garden is dong as good as can be expected. My neighbor has several tomato plants that got nipped by the last frost, but they have a bunch of green fruit that are ripening.


11 posted on 11/18/2011 5:31:59 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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Congratulations, Redleg Duke! A Jumbo egg! You are doing absolutely fantastic with the chickens!


12 posted on 11/18/2011 5:31:59 AM PST by momtothree
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Sounds like you are having great success with your chickens.
I know nothing about raising chickens. For some reason I thought they slowed down laying during the winter.


13 posted on 11/18/2011 5:39:03 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Actually, this is my first experience with raising chickens, but so far, it has been fun.


14 posted on 11/18/2011 5:49:27 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Hoodat

My mustard greens are too (I did not plant collards). This season I discovered using the pressure cooker to

That is the only thing left alive in my garden now. We had our first hard freeze this week. It hit 29 degrees a few nights ago.

I removed my drip irrigation system on my young fruit trees and covered my fig trees hoping to collect a few figs before they shut down for the winter (I planted them in Feb. 2011) Pretty amazing to see a tree set fruit the first year.


15 posted on 11/18/2011 6:03:08 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Red_Devil 232
If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.

Let's say you have a piece of land that has pine trees on it, plain ole astern white pine.

Now, for the sake of discussion, let's say you clear cut it and want to make it into an organic farm.

This is what you have done so far, cut,it, pulled the stumps, dragged it for rocks and found the ph to be 5.5 or so. Today you are spreading lime at the rate of 2.5 tons per acre. This will be scratched in using a D-10 with a rock rack.

What else would you do? The initial main crops will be corn, squash, both summer and winter, and tomatoes.

Thanks for any help in advance and please do not ask how many acres. But the land is in Vermont and New Hampshire. Because of it's proximity to the Connecticut river it has a 3.5 month growing season.

16 posted on 11/18/2011 6:05:47 AM PST by JakeS (I have never had a flu shot and I have never had the flu.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We’ve been having some beautiful autumn weather here in Central Missouri. Garden cleanup is almost finished for the year. My green salad is loving the warm days and cool nights.

Planted 150 cloves of garlic last weekend. I bought and planted three bulbs (~45 cloves) in the fall of ‘08 and have been saving some back from the harvest to replant since then. I’m not sure of the variety but it seems to be acclimating nicely as the bulb and clove size has been steadily improving.

The Red Russian kale is hip-high and lush. I’ll put a couple gallons up in the freezer and the rest will be green fodder for the chickens over winter.

I still have plans to bring in some composted horse manure from a buddy’s stable. Hopefully I can find the time to do that before wet weather sets in.


17 posted on 11/18/2011 6:12:53 AM PST by Augie
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To: Redleg Duke
We sold our first dozen this week. /i>

Duke, obviously you didn't get the Obama memo. We are all LAZY, according to our perpetually vacationing Pres. Congrats on the new money raising endeavor. Don't tell the town. They'll try to regulate and tax you to death.

18 posted on 11/18/2011 6:22:31 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: momtothree

I love doing that, too. Planning my garden and looking at me gardening books. Keeps me going till Spring.


19 posted on 11/18/2011 6:31:28 AM PST by gramho12
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To: Red_Devil 232
Ok Freepers this means no thawing of the turkey on the back porch or in the trunk of your car!

That would depend on where we live. 'round here, we call the garage the "walk-in" during the winter. LOL. I think I'll order my dinner this year. There is a restaurant here that will supply the whole thing for less than 50 bucks. I can't do that well cooking and shopping myself. And I'll give another 50 bucks to the church which will supply a turkey and a bag of groceries to a needy inner city family. I'll spend the day (if it is nice) cleanng out the garden.

My husband just got back from his annual hunting trip in Missouri. They all got skunked this year because the rut didn't start until the day he had to leave. Much catching up to do around here and at work. So we will have a very quiet TG this year.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

20 posted on 11/18/2011 6:32:08 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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