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Was a 5th Grader Kicked Out of His Elem. School for Saying a Local Newscaster Resembles B.Obama?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/was-a-5th-grader-kicked-out-of-his-elementary-school-for-saying-a-local-newscaster-resembles-barack-obama/ ^ | 11/18/11

Posted on 11/18/2011 6:43:20 PM PST by Altura Ct.

The guy dressed in the suit and tie, smiling and shaking a bevy of hands, caught Grayson Thomas’ eye.

Grayson wasn’t alone. Teachers and other students at Stevenson Ranch Elementary School couldn’t take their eyes off the lunchtime visitor, either.

Grayson, a fifth-grader at the campus near Santa Clarita, Ca., noticed the gentleman’s outward characteristics: Tall and lean. Good looking. Charismatic. Charming. Energetic.

Then he made a fatal error: Grayson, 11, pulled a little “made you look” joke on a schoolmate seated next to him, saying something along the lines of “Obama’s visiting our school today,” referring to the magnetic figure holding court nearby.

It wasn’t Obama, of course. But from Grayson’s point of view, Chris Schauble—morning co-anchor of KTLA 5′s TV news program in Los Angeles—did possess a demeanor and countenance similar to the president’s.

According to Grayson’s dad, Darren Thomas (who provided the previous details), what happened next was scary: Word of his son’s Obama-Schauble comparison spread to Schauble’s daughter, Shelbi, who was sharing lunch with her newsman father. And Shelbi was uncomfortable with Grayson’s statement, saying it felt racist.

Then a teacher was summoned, then the principal, Candace Fleece, then the Newhall School District superintendent, Marc Winger. And that very afternoon, Nov. 4, Grayson was kicked out of Stevenson Ranch for good, his father says, for implying that all black men look alike.

The Blaze asked school officials and Schauble for comment to little avail. Schauble did not respond to interview requests. School board president Suzan T. Solomon noted “regret” over “misinformation out in the press” regarding the ordeal but declined further comment. Fleece’s office referred the matter to Winger, who offered that “there are two sides to every story” but declined further comment, citing student confidentiality issues. He provided the following

The Newhall School District regrets that untrue statements have appeared in the media. The District adheres to the privacy requirements of the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974 (FERPA) as amended (20 U.S.C. § 1232g; 34 CFR Part 99), California Education Code sections 49062 et seq., Article 1, Section 1 of the California Constitution and all other applicable federal and state laws and regulations that safeguard a student’s educational records, privacy and confidentiality.

Winger apparently revealed a bit more to a local radio news site, which quoted him as saying, “It’s not what [Grayson] said, it’s how he said it…I can tell you that there was history and that the student had been counseled and we met with the parents.”

It’s besides the point, says Darren Thomas, that neither Winger, Fleece, nor Solomon—not even Schauble or his daughter—were within earshot to evaluate “how” his son originally stated his Obama-lookalike comment. The kicker, Darren says, is that school officials had no basis for determining that Grayson’s comparison implied that all black men look alike. And then they punished him.

“How can you assume the intent of a child?” Darren asked. “This is the thought police. [They're] not God; [their] bureaucratic brain[s have] melted into a mush of political correctness.”

Darren first spoke to Principal Fleece, whom he says assured him that Grayson’s past misbehavior—which included stealing school supplies from a campus store with other students and minor classroom outbursts—had nothing to do with the decision to permanently kick him out of the school.

Rather, Darren recalls Fleece explaining, Grayson made the Obama-Schauble comparison in a “teasing” and “mocking” way…and the school deals with racism very seriously. (Darren adds that Fleece contacted Schauble and apologized for Grayson’s remark.)

Darren Thomas says he next spoke with Winger, whom he said backed what Fleece told him and added that he was doing Grayson a “favor” by not noting racism on the paperwork revoking his interdistrict permit, which “returns” Grayson to his school district of residence. (“Failure to maintain acceptable behavior” is one reason the Newhall School District stipulates for revoking such a permit.)

Darren says he “begged” Winger to note racism on the paperwork, adding that “if it were that huge of a problem, wouldn’t you let the next school know?”

According to Darren, he asked the California Department of Education to open an investigation on possible civil rights violations in regard to Grayson’s situation, and he may pursue legal action as well. (Darren says Liberty Counsel, which handles civil rights cases from a religious freedom and family values perspective, been in touch with him.)

Darren says he met with school board president Solomon last night, but a resolution—namely, a public apology from Fleece and Winger—seems remote. The Thomas‘ aren’t interested in Grayson returning to Stevenson Ranch, either. (He now attends Tesoro Del Valle Elementary in Valencia’s neighboring Saugus Union School District.) In the end Darren says he hopes—at the very least—that similar incidents don’t befall other students.

“[They]‘ve empowered a young girl, and all kids connected with this girl,” Darren says, “[to believe] that ‘If I don’t like you, all I have to do is say racism and you’re done.’” (He said the student who told Schauble‘s daughter about Grayson’s comment does not like Grayson and, in fact, sent him harassing text messages the following Monday, Nov. 7, celebrating his dismissal. Darren says he’s turning over the texts to law enforcement and school authorities.)

“Is it because my son is from Alabama originally?” Darren says he asked Winger. “Is it because Schauble is someone of importance? In Grayson’s group of friends, every single one of them is of a different ethnicity—Korean, Vietnamese, black, white, Hispanic. Our home has always been open to a wide range of people.”

That includes Julian Eubanks, a childhood friend of Grayson’s mother who bunked with the Thomas family for the first six months of 2011 while he looked for acting work.

“As a man of color and a close friend to this family, I am [offended] that such a grotesque accusation could be made against any of them, especially my ‘G-Man’,” Eubanks recently commented on a blog. “The so called adults in control of this situation have handled it horribly…they need to intervene and clear this young man’s name.”


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 5thgrade; california; graysonthomas; obama; schools; thomas

1 posted on 11/18/2011 6:43:22 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Disgusting.


2 posted on 11/18/2011 6:49:01 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Altura Ct.

They need to sue the bullies, the school and everyone else.


3 posted on 11/18/2011 6:51:36 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Altura Ct.

Where do these clowns keep comming up with this “good looking” crap?

At best he looks like a 5 year younger version of Ted Williams, the bum with the golden voice.
At worst he looks like a typical Demon.

“Good Looking” like my butt.....


4 posted on 11/18/2011 6:51:54 PM PST by mowowie
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To: samtheman

actually, I have noticed that commercials and some news shows use actors that look vaugely like the sitting president during their term of office.


5 posted on 11/18/2011 6:52:53 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Altura Ct.
White people need to learn their place and get to the back of the bus.

We need separate drinking fountains for them, too.

And they really should have their own schools. Not as good as the schools for Eric Holder's people, though.

6 posted on 11/18/2011 6:53:29 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.<sup>®</sup>)
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To: Altura Ct.

OK, So i now read the rest of the story.
Now i have to go and throw up.
Unbeli......Wait nevermind.

NOTHING is unbelievable anymore.
We live in Bizzaro land.


7 posted on 11/18/2011 6:57:38 PM PST by mowowie
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To: mowowie

Don’t you know obama is handsome and Michelle is beautiful? How anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me.


8 posted on 11/18/2011 7:00:19 PM PST by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a second party)
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To: Altura Ct.

So, the young man is from Alabama, huh? Well, that clinches it. Guilty as hell. We know those Bama boys are racist to the core.

Why they allow such trash in the schools is beyond me.

(You do realize that I am being sarcastic.)


9 posted on 11/18/2011 7:06:42 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Altura Ct.
What's the difference between Barack Obama and Chris Schauble?

One is a good looking articulate black man

the other is President of the United States.

10 posted on 11/18/2011 7:09:20 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: Altura Ct.

Let’s see a photo of the guy. We will tell you if he even slightly resembles “0”.


11 posted on 11/18/2011 7:25:47 PM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: Altura Ct.

12 posted on 11/18/2011 7:29:32 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Altura Ct.

“[Superintendent] Winger apparently revealed a bit more to a local radio news site, which quoted him as saying, “It’s not what [Grayson] said, it’s how he said it…I can tell you that there was history and that the student had been counseled and we met with the parents.”

Would really love to know the details of that history. The link in the story (to the radio site) mentions the kid was involved in a theft from the school bookstore and was accused of making an inappropriate comment to a girl a while back, but that’s about it.

To be honest, I’m not sure what to make of this one. It could be yet another case of PC run amok, but it could also be a case of this kid being of having a genuine history here. I did some substitute teaching when I was in college, and brother, 5th and 6th graders can be some of the very worst in the world when it comes to pushing the limits and seeing what they can get away with.

Whatever the actual scenario, though, I think it inappropriate for the principal and superintendent to summarily kick the kid out without first contacting the parents and discussing the matter with them.


13 posted on 11/18/2011 7:31:10 PM PST by DemforBush (Send lawyers, guns, and money. Dad get me out of this!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Please Americans, if you have any means at all, pull your children from government schools immediately!


14 posted on 11/18/2011 7:43:29 PM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / The democrat party "Can Go Straight To Hell".)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The guy looks exactly like 0bama!


15 posted on 11/18/2011 7:43:52 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: GeronL
They need to sue the bullies, the school and everyone else.

You got that right.

16 posted on 11/18/2011 7:59:29 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Altura Ct.
The kicker, Darren says, is that school officials had no basis for determining that Grayson’s comparison implied that all black men look alike. And then they punished him.

This has become scarily racist : Eternal victims infer events or words based on their ignorance or personal racism, transfer it to others and the "subculture" plus the courts validate the racist stupidity.

How many victims has the word niggardly created so far?

17 posted on 11/18/2011 9:20:17 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Terry Mross
Don’t you know obama is handsome and Michelle is beautiful? How anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me.

Shouldn't be, if you understand that saying anything remotely otherwise in public would get you accused, arrested, tried and convicted.

Is this kid now a felon?

18 posted on 11/18/2011 9:29:07 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: FrdmLvr
The guy looks exactly like 0bama!

I thought so too, until I watched today's JAG repeat.

Actor Scott Lawrence (who played Cdr. Sturgis Turner) is even closer in resemblance.

I'm thinking, considering jawline and hairline, that if you produced a composite of Schauble and Lawrence, it would be Obama.

19 posted on 11/19/2011 8:10:15 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: Altura Ct.

I would love to know the other side of this story. There has to be one...


20 posted on 11/22/2011 10:02:09 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Hmmm...

“Darren first spoke to Principal Fleece, whom he says assured him that Grayson’s past misbehavior—which included stealing school supplies from a campus store with other students and minor classroom outbursts—had nothing to do with the decision to permanently kick him out of the school.”


21 posted on 11/22/2011 11:08:07 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Altura Ct.

This is interesting:

“If you are considering a purchase or have already chosen to purchase a home in the Stevenson Ranch area you have chosen to live in a very crowded school zone.”

http://www.newhallschooldistrict.net/images/stories/pdf/board/notice/sr-pc-diversionbackground.pdf


22 posted on 11/22/2011 11:26:09 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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