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McDonald's, Target fire Minnesota egg company (Animal Abuse Allegations)
Minneapolis StarTribune (aka The Red Star) ^ | 11/19/11 | Mike Hughlett - Staff Reporter

Posted on 11/19/2011 9:42:50 PM PST by MplsSteve

McDonald's Corp. and Target said Friday that they had booted a Minnesota-based egg supplier in the wake of an undercover video documenting alleged animal abuse.

The hidden-camera video was shot by the Chicago animal rights group Mercy for Animals at facilities of Sparboe Farms, the nation's fifth-largest egg producer. Taken in Minnesota, Iowa and Colorado, the video portrays crowded cages common in the egg industry, but also shows one worker swinging a chicken by a rope or chain and another stuffing a hen in a co-worker's pants pocket.

Sparboe was also cited this week by federal food regulators for serious violations of salmonella prevention rules, including unsatisfactory rodent control.

After the video came to light, McDonald's told its U.S. egg supply chain manager, Minnetonka-based Cargill Inc., that it would no longer accept Sparboe eggs.

Cargill said in a news release that it, too, was "disturbed" by the images in the video and has suspended Sparboe as a supplier.

Late Friday, Target confirmed that it had not only dumped Sparboe as a supplier, but was also pulling Sparboe eggs off the shelves at Super Target stores nationwide.

"Having been made aware of the unacceptable conditions in the company's egg laying facilities, effective immediately, Target will discontinue its business relationship with Sparboe Farms," the Minnesota-based retailer said in a press release. "We are currently in the process of notifying our stores to remove the product from our shelves."

The alleged abuse didn't occur at the Iowa Sparboe facility that directly supplies McDonald's, but McDonald's sustainability director Bob Langert said in a news release that "the behavior on tape is disturbing and highly unacceptable."

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: animalabuse; animalcruelty; animaltreatment; eggs; food; minnesota; vegan
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Folks, I'm not an animal rights activist. I believe that animals were put on this earth for companionship and also for food and clothing. They were not put on earth for us to abuse them though.

Comments or opinions - anyone?

1 posted on 11/19/2011 9:42:52 PM PST by MplsSteve
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2 posted on 11/19/2011 9:44:08 PM PST by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: MplsSteve
In an operation that size, one or two goons can really mess up the bottom line. The question is one of whether the taped goons were a set-up or not.

No, I do not in any way condone cruelty to domesticated animals, work them and treat them well, or kill them and eat them, but don't torture them.

3 posted on 11/19/2011 9:51:34 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: MplsSteve

Gotta say I was not happy with a dozen eggs from Target that had been sourced from this operation. They didn’t taste right even though they were supposedly fresh.

When I can afford it, I buy eggs from a local farmer. Very tasty and as long as I avoid hitting one of the hens running across his driveway, no abuse I could see. Too bad the farmer charges about 4 times what local grocery stores charge — but he’s got to cover his expenses.


4 posted on 11/19/2011 9:52:41 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: MplsSteve

The victim’s suffering for the Penn St. football program should get so much respect.


5 posted on 11/19/2011 10:04:37 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: MplsSteve

“Folks, I’m not an animal rights activist. I believe that animals were put on this earth for companionship and also for food and clothing. They were not put on earth for us to abuse them though.”

I agree. Growing up in a family of farmers, though, I have a real dilemma inside that is hard to keep in check.

On the one hand, I raise two different types of livestock, with 2 other types of livestock on the property, that I interact with, feed, etc. that are not my own, but live literally a stone throw from my door. These livestock breeds include cows, goats, rabbits and chickens.

Having said that, I am very protective of my animals. I would probably defend them with my life, if I had to. I have heard that in olden times, shepherds would lay in the gap/doorway of their animal pens, and literally guard their animals with their own life. I feel that way, though not quite to the same extent. I have stewardship over the animals I maintain, and I will provide and protect them, at the cost of my own comfort (but not necessarilly put my life in danger, the need has never come to that).

I believe that God gave us animals to be friends/companions as well as food/raiment. I don’t think that means just dogs and cats, I think it means many kinds of animals, though some are specifically vermin and plague mankind. In any event, a friend of mine needed to borrow a chicken to take to the fair so he could have a booth (the chickens are fine specimen show chickens). I really was worried for her welfare for the entire 2 days that she was gone (though this friend was the one who gave me the chicken, and knew to make sure she had company, etc.). She came back safely, and I felt real relief when i knew she’d be safe again, and not in danger. But, while I feel fondly towards the animals, I would have some remorse, but not much difficulty walking out and killing them for food, if the need arised. I have the understanding that I will care for them as if my life depended upon it, because they will give their lives if mine depends upon it. I treat them well, because they are good companions, and they will sacrifice their lives to spare mine, if there is ever no food to be found.

I’m not big on “animal cruelty” laws and such. Animals are private property, they are not people. Ultimately we will be accountable to our Maker for how we care for and treat His creations. We will answer directly to Him for that stewardship, and it’s not my place to get involved with the disposition of someone else’s property, nor for them to get involved in mine. I blame all the personification of animals in animated movies for this sense of animal superiority to man. Sharks are not vegetarians, birds and lions don’t play together, etc.

Like I said, I have a real dilemma, God granted us the freedom to private property and to make choices. I don’t think people have the right to tell one another how to handle animals, nor to criminalize how animals are treated. Yes, I believe that cruelty is wrong (though all definitions are subjective). Yes, I think that people may burn in hell for how they treat an animal (if they don’t repent). Yes, I know that animals abuse is an indicator in serial killers. No, I won’t patronize someone I know who abuses animals (or a company).

It’s complicated for me, and while I have strong feelings, at some point, people have to have the chance to learn on their own, without a criminal code for everything one person or another doesn’t like. I detest animal cruelty, but I still don’t think it should be a criminal issue. What I may define as abuse, someone else may not, and what I may accept as respectful treatment, someone else may not (though, that person would likeyl be a PETA-animal-worshipping whacko).


6 posted on 11/19/2011 10:07:11 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“No, I do not in any way condone cruelty to domesticated animals, work them and treat them well, or kill them and eat them, but don’t torture them.”

I agree. I posted a lengthy post, but I just wanted to say, the line is fine about where an individuals human’s rights begin and end with respect to their animals/private property. I err on the side of personal responsibility, but I still detest the chicken stomping, etc. I have had fights when I was younger protecting animals from other kids trying to torture kittens and such. It’s something, that my opinions grow and change about the older I get, but the issue is still very complicated for me with respect to legality, etc.


8 posted on 11/19/2011 10:14:40 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: MplsSteve

No, I definitely don’t think we have a right to abuse animals, despite our right to husband them for our uses.

There is a verse in the Old Testament that commands that the mother’s milk not be used to cook the meat of her calf. It is interpreted by Jewish scholars that it means that the mother should not see her own calf killed and cooked.

In other words to be mindful of the animals in our care.


9 posted on 11/19/2011 10:17:43 PM PST by Jonty30
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To: MplsSteve
Folks, I'm not an animal rights activist. I believe that animals were put on this earth for companionship and also for food and clothing. They were not put on earth for us to abuse them though.
Comments or opinions - anyone?

I'm with you on this. The same Creator that made us made them.

10 posted on 11/19/2011 10:22:49 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Jonty30

“There is a verse in the Old Testament that commands that the mother’s milk not be used to cook the meat of her calf.”

Actually, it was a “kid.” And it was one Ten Commandments mentioned in I believe Exodus 34 (if I remember correctly, there were a few differences in the ten after Moses broke the first tablets, but I don’t recall for certain, I’m not an Old Testament buff).


11 posted on 11/19/2011 10:31:12 PM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235

Ex 34:26 - You shall bring the first of the first fruits of your ground to the house of Yahweh your God. You shall not boil a young goat in its mother’s milk.”


12 posted on 11/19/2011 11:13:09 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: MplsSteve

There was an entertainer in England who used to do a nude dance with a rubber chicken. He was quite popular in some circles.


13 posted on 11/19/2011 11:19:26 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: JDW11235

I love you.


14 posted on 11/19/2011 11:36:53 PM PST by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

I love you, too! (Platonically, LOL)


15 posted on 11/20/2011 12:10:20 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

Ah, thanks for the reference, I remember that another FReeper asked (as a bit of trivia) once on a thread to name the “Original Ten Commandments” and most of us didn’t even know that there was two different sets, and I remember the experience, because I thought the idea of boiling a goat in it’s mother’s milk to be odd. There’s so much in the Bible, I hope to always remember that I never know it all!


16 posted on 11/20/2011 12:13:00 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: MplsSteve

I buy only cage free, better for the animal, better egg as well.


17 posted on 11/20/2011 12:21:12 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Jonty30

‘A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast...’(Pr.12:10)


18 posted on 11/20/2011 12:29:06 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: JDW11235
Bottom line: It's a dirty, wicked world. I'm just glad my pet rabbit Benjamin Franklin lives with me. Rabbits are very smart animals. I like them a lot better than dogs or cats.

Cruelty of all forms is a part of life. I can't say I know what to do about it either. I just try to take care of mine. I think I gotta go pet my bun now.

19 posted on 11/20/2011 12:34:07 AM PST by Huck (Not sure if I can pick one.)
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To: JDW11235
In this case, the verdict of the court of public opinion has been anticipated, and Sparboe will pay for that verdict. Whether the 'Animal Rights' crew set them up is another question, and they will pay for the actions of a couple of employees, regardless.

Other health issues are present, apparently, and that is subject to regulation as things stand, popular support for those regulations exists, especially with a commercial operation.

Frankly, if the items aren't being sold, that is a different area, but cruelty (defined at a point where most would agree something is cruel, not just the PETA folks) is not something I can countenance, either--and yes, I got in a couple of knuckle dusters in the day over ill treatment of stray animals, too, although there were few around who would do such, and none in the group I ran with.

20 posted on 11/20/2011 1:04:37 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Huck

Ben Franklin sounds lucky to have you. And rabbits are smart. I don’t have any animals inside the house, on principle, but, as I’m sure you know, they can be taught and trained. As a kid, my mom taught my rabbit, Esther (which I got for Easter) to come when she whistled and do her bidding, lol. I remember once, the master bath needed to be redone, as the tiles were coming out and my mom, who was disabled, needed to have a bar (to hold on to) put in. My dad didn’t get around to it for some time, so my mom started putting the rabbit in the shower (dry, no water running) on hot days to keep cool and have Esther “unintentionally” dig up the tiles from the floor of the shower. It only took a few days and Esther had most of the tile ripped out. It made my dad kind of upset, but he finally got around to getting that shower redone, lol.


21 posted on 11/20/2011 1:07:21 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Smokin' Joe; Huck

Wow, I have had some internet issues this evening, and was only able to read the article, but not watch the video. I just got done watching the video. As another FReeper, Huck, mentioned, “Bottom line: It’s a dirty, wicked world.” I know it’s been around since forever (mental health disease/cruelty/torture in general), but seriously, I don’t understand what switch is flipped in people that says it’s “fun,” “ok,” or whatever to torture an animal, some people have no shame. I’m not a fan of industrial animal processing methods in the first place, which is part of why I choose to raise my own.


22 posted on 11/20/2011 1:19:10 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235
A significant part of our diet when I was young came from wild game. Wounding an animal and not recovering it was considered poor shooting/judgement and pretty darned low, but to intentionally cause one to suffer was unconscionable. I guess when you have had to skin your dinner, you earn a respect for life and the critters who feed you, even as you thank the God who made 'em for dinner.

Our view with wild game has been that they're His critters, and He lets us harvest them as we need to, but to wantonly waste them is an affront to the Creator.

23 posted on 11/20/2011 1:52:16 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Our view with wild game has been that they’re His critters, and He lets us harvest them as we need to, but to wantonly waste them is an affront to the Creator.”

Amen!


24 posted on 11/20/2011 3:03:04 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: MplsSteve
Did McD' take a poll?


25 posted on 11/20/2011 3:12:50 AM PST by Daffynition
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To: MplsSteve
Torturing or abusing companion or food animals is vile beyond description. It is sadism, cruelty just for the cornbread hell of it. People caught engaging in that kind of conduct should be terminated with extreme prejudice.

If the sadist is caught torturing or abusing humans, they should be terminated with extreme prejudice, dug back up out of the grave and terminated with extreme prejudice again.

26 posted on 11/20/2011 5:19:23 AM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: MplsSteve

I’m with you. We eat our critters and eggs they produce. That said, they are happy girls and get treated well with good, clean food and living conditions. Heck, they even have run of the place (er, not the house). When slaughtering, they don’t even know it’s coming because we strive to keep them calm and eliminate blood traces between animals. Frankly, with the care we give and the long term relationship we have with some of them, it is hard to process them. No life without death. Seems like a Supreme Creator might have wanted to drive that message home . . .


27 posted on 11/20/2011 5:38:39 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Expiate your inner liberal racist guilt, but use your brain: Vote CAIN in 2012!)
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To: MplsSteve
They weren't put on this earth for food or clothing. They became that due to the depredations of mankind. Read Romans 8:19-22, or for a very detailed rebuke and call to repentance referencing nearly every Biblical scripture upon the matter, turn to the great 18th century Sermon 60 of John Wesley, from November 30, 1781, known as The General Deliverance.

They're giving their lives for our sustenance through no sin of their own. Don't torment them, be merciful.

28 posted on 11/20/2011 5:51:57 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: MplsSteve
You don't get to many Rhodes scholars working at chicken farms!!!
29 posted on 11/20/2011 6:08:34 AM PST by ontap
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To: abner; JDW11235

You twu need to get a room! LOL


30 posted on 11/20/2011 6:11:53 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

TWU=TWO! sheese!


31 posted on 11/20/2011 6:12:41 AM PST by ontap
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To: RegulatorCountry
So I guess that's why Jesus references the blood of the lamb so much,and what's with all those sheepherders!!
32 posted on 11/20/2011 6:14:44 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap
So I guess that's why Jesus references the blood of the lamb so much,and what's with all those sheepherders!!

I'm going to apologize ahead of time for being terse, but you do seem rather vague on the concept.

The sin of Adam brought death into the world as well as the recognition of nudity. Sacrificial offerings were for the propitiation of the sin entered into the world by Adam. Animals being regarded as food out of necessity entered into the world also due to the sins of mankind, after the destruction of all living, save Noah, his family and those creatures aboard the ark.

Jesus Christ as the final sacrificial lamb, perfect and without spot, was and is victory over the death and sin entered into the world. He's known as the Second Adam.

It's all rather complete. I suggest you try reading the subject matter and better yet understanding it before attempting to lob a poorly aimed bon mot into such a discussion in the future.

And again, I apologize for being short with you, but perhaps it will be to your benefit.

33 posted on 11/20/2011 6:41:23 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
It's all rather complete. I suggest you try reading the subject matter and better yet understanding it before attempting to lob a poorly aimed bon mot into such a discussion in the future.

You can keep your sanctimonious, arrogant and boorish drivel to your self. By the way maybe you should make a go at "How to win friends and influence people" by Andrew Carnegie. You're really lacking in your delivery.

Acts 10:9-19 9. About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. ” 12. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13. Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” 14. “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” 15. The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that G-d has made clean.” 16. This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven. ACTS 10 9-16 Sorry to be so through maybe Buy it is better to error on the side scriptural documentation.

34 posted on 11/20/2011 7:55:04 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

Again, my apologies. I assumed mere ignorance, a reparable condition. My mistake.

For those who actually are willing and able to learn, read the whole book. Animals were not put on this planet for food and clothing, that came later, due to the depredations of mankind.

It’s all in there for those who care to look.


35 posted on 11/20/2011 8:01:07 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Some can be led to the truth.. Some create their own truth. Your statement on animals has no basis in scripture. It is a figment you have created in your own mind to support your personal beliefs.
36 posted on 11/20/2011 8:09:02 AM PST by ontap
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To: RegulatorCountry

Another nut case.


37 posted on 11/20/2011 8:09:40 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: verity
Personal attacks are the last vestige of the ignorant!
38 posted on 11/20/2011 8:13:24 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap; RegulatorCountry

“You can keep your sanctimonious, arrogant and boorish drivel to your self.”

I, too, have experiences his/her drivel. It’s odd, because (s)he is so doctrinally confused, that, like the Pharisees, (s)he is not going to listen to the message. It takes a lot of convolution to come up with the false doctrines that RegulatorCountry conjures up. It’s funny, because the doctrines of God are so simple that babes can utter and understand them, yet mere mortals like you and I, ontap, apparently can’t comprehend the gospel message. Apparently RegulatorCountry needs to pontificate to us, something that we need no one else but the Holy Spirit (and the prophets inspired by God, from whence Holy scripture comes) to learn.

Don’t bring up the topic of dispensations, or you’re in for a tirade of epic proportions.


39 posted on 11/20/2011 8:17:32 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: ontap
Dumb ass...I agreed with you and was referring to your nemesis.
40 posted on 11/20/2011 8:18:48 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: ontap

“Some can be led to the truth.. Some create their own truth. Your statement on animals has no basis in scripture.”

Among the plain and simple to read and understand, the resurrected Christ ate an animal, certainly it wasn’t because He was subject to the fall.


41 posted on 11/20/2011 8:20:18 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: verity; ontap

“I agreed with you and was referring to your nemesis.”

I think ontap may have been seconding what you said, reiterating that RegulatorCountry was the one making the personal attack. But I could be wrong.


42 posted on 11/20/2011 8:21:43 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235; ontap
" think ontap may have been seconding what you said,"

If so, I apologize.

43 posted on 11/20/2011 8:23:59 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: JDW11235
Platitudes can be conjured up by anyone. He is entitled to his opinions, he is not however entitled to his facts. I don't care what he thinks about eating meat, it is not prohibited in the bible!!
44 posted on 11/20/2011 8:24:22 AM PST by ontap
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To: verity
No! I apologize for not making my response clearer.
45 posted on 11/20/2011 8:26:09 AM PST by ontap
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To: JDW11235
I don’t have any animals inside the house, on principle, but, as I’m sure you know, they can be taught and trained.

Ben's an indoor/outdoor bun. Right now he's outside on the deck sunning himself. But he can't live outside--we're in black bear country and rabbit hutches are easy pickins for hungry bears.

He has free reign of about 60% of our house. He's litter box trained, and has his daily routine. He's a very smart bun. I couldn't eat Ben no matter how hungry I got.

46 posted on 11/20/2011 8:27:38 AM PST by Huck (Not sure if I can pick one.)
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To: ontap

“...eating meat, it is not prohibited in the bible!!”

And a hearty AMEN on this fine Sunday morning!


47 posted on 11/20/2011 8:28:56 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: ontap
My statements are thoroughly grounded in scripture, but I've come to the unfortunate conclusion that an expectation of your understanding this is mistaken.

But, for the benefit of those willing and able to learn, let's turn first to Romans 8:19-22, shall we?

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

From this starting point with the Apostle Paul, one gains the understanding that animals did not sin, but were subjected to pain, suffering and death through no fault of their own due to the actions of man. Furthermore, one gains the understanding that animals will themselves be delivered from corruption, ie sin and death.

Furthermore, even a casual student of the Bible should be familiar with the Edenic existence present prior to the fall of man. Animals were not food and they were not clothing. Man was not aware and therefore not ashamed of his nakedness.

So, before we ever even get out of the book of Genesis, we learn that animals were not put on this earth for food or clothing, the statement of mine that appears to have led to controversy, for some odd reason.

Would anyone care to continue? It's acceptable and permissible to eat meat and has been since the days of Noah. With this I have no problem, I eat meat myself. But, I do not knowingly patronize anyone who is cruel to their animals. The righteous man regardeth the life of his beast, while the mercies of the wicked are cruel.

As was stated upthread, they're already giving their lives for our sustenance. Don't torment animals, be merciful. That's the Biblical way for those who care to learn and understand.

48 posted on 11/20/2011 8:31:44 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Huck

I have never lived in bear country, but my parents do. My dad thinks a black bear got one of his dogs a few years back. We deal with the deer and such in these parts, but thankfully, there are no major predators here (but some greenies are trying to get wolves introduced for us to deal with!).

“I couldn’t eat Ben no matter how hungry I got.”

I understand, that’s why my dad told me to never name anything that wasn’t a pet. Ironically, I still name my favorites in the group. :-)


49 posted on 11/20/2011 8:33:12 AM PST by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: verity

Oh? How so?


50 posted on 11/20/2011 8:34:17 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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