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We Have Our Own eCat Says Defkalion
Ecatnews.com ^ | 11/20/11 | Admin

Posted on 11/20/2011 3:01:21 PM PST by Liberty1970

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To: Liberty1970

BTW, I doubt that it will save either of the two nations from default. Northern countries will be understandably skeptical and wary.


21 posted on 11/20/2011 5:15:15 PM PST by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: muawiyah

I thought black holes, where light couldn’t escape, was found to emit neutrinos(weak force?) which showed up in some deep underground pool as they traveled through earth. Being the escape velocity to leave a black hole would be faster leaving than light coming in.

How do they know they (neutrinos) are moving and not just blinking like a xmas bulb on a string of lights where it only appears to be movement?


22 posted on 11/20/2011 5:50:42 PM PST by Razzz42
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Greece and Italy BOTH import 70% - to 90% of their energy needs (depending on year and season).

Dekalian and Rossi both hold out the promise to them of finally being able to meet their bills without getting involved in international imperialism and conquest.

23 posted on 11/20/2011 5:57:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Razzz42
Could be neutrinos "travel" in "unzer space", or like lights on a string (making them simply a weightless phenomenon without mass), or possibly they're really particles in our universe with which we rarely interact, and they always travel at or above the speed of light.

Now, about tunneling out of a blackhole ~ once you do that trick you're out and you take off at the speed of light ~ which ain't that fast all at once so they'd be stretched out like crazy ~ very long wave phenomenon. Get a few thousand miles away and they'd shorten up tight ~ the speed of light would be the same in all cases.

Now, about neutrinos ~ according to the little brief at Wiki, neutrinos interact with the WEAK FORCE and GRAVITY ONLY.

They mediate the fusion of hydrogen in stars ~ (and probably the fusion of hydrogen with other junk in the corona of stars but I couldn't find anybody who claims that yet ~ Widom and Larsen et al do claim fusion occurs in the corona but haven't pinned down what that means in terms of all possible interactions.)

Good questions. BTW, I've been following what our more scientific brethren are into for most of my life. They promised FUSION ENERGY which would produce electricity so cheap you wouldn't need to meter it.

They didn't.

But I try to keep up. A lot of this depends on a fairly good grounding in mathematics ~ mostly in the orthography but also in the structure with stuff in motion through time. A good deal of it also depends on 'speriments ~ unavailable to most of us so I've always found it useful to know some professional physicists who have engaged in 'speriments and they can explain it ~ which they do along with a whole lot of other stuff they think you need to know.

Fortunately I live in a community that has professional physicists and scientists around. You do know those guys have a pretty high burn out rate. You go from grad school to a project, and you last through that project until it completes, or leads to something else, and if it falls through ("numerous blue laser" projects fell through) you are kind of out of the field. Seems like a waste of good talent but right now we have plenty of spare physicists.

The internet is fairly comprehsive and has all sorts of really great instructional materials. There's no reason someone with time on their hands can't develop a fairly decent understanding of the four fundamental forces. You can quickly develop more intelligence than was available to anyone 50 years ago, and maybe even more than was available 10 years ago. Just stick to it. Maybe you too can build a new home heater that runs on dirt and leaves.

24 posted on 11/20/2011 6:21:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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Also enjoying watching the naysayers stick their necks out.

I'm a naysayer and I still think it's a scam. I've also said, repeatedly, that I would love to be wrong. The implications of this being real are enormous.

If it is real, I wonder what the gov is going to do? Ban them, steal the tech in the public's interest, prohibit export? Will the envirowhackos come out for or against it?

Are the people that think this is real investing in nickel?

Nickel investing The market is supposed to improve in 2012, at least according to the nickel investing website.

I hope we get an answer soon.

25 posted on 11/20/2011 7:14:33 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: dangerdoc; citizen; Lancey Howard; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; ...

Thanks for the ping.

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http://ecatnews.com/?p=1144

Unfortunately, if Rossi did the following:

1) hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps,

2) created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos,

3) bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos

4) arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real,

5) got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field,

6) got Bushnell to make a fool of himself,

7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum
-—— or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow,

8) sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam;
-—— certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device
-—— and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan

9) and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion
-—— to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat,
-—— to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam

[the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars
-—— until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table
-—— because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes
-—— and knows that they will just take his word for it
-—— and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) ]

10) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out

then, yes, all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses.


26 posted on 11/20/2011 7:19:13 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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[Vo]:Stremmenos comments on Rossi and Deflakion Aussie Guy E-Cat Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:13:48 -0800 http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516&cpage=14#comment-125963 "Ch Stremmenos November 21st, 2011 at 5:13 AM Caro Andrea DC carry my remarks on a paper "CACIATORI OF COLD FUSION" published yesterday in the newspaper, greek Tovima. The comment has the title "more serious and more honesty," not only addresses the preparation of the Journal: "I feel personally responsible for the transfer and fate of the invention (Cold Fusion) Rossi in Greece, then guardian of thevalues ​​in it: With scientific and idealistic reasons involving my friends, colleagues and long-term partners: ing. A. Rossi and Prof.S. Focardi characters of this epoch-making innovation, we have attempted to pass along in Greece, science and technological prospects for a promising future in this. .. Country .. Place of birth Leucippus and Democritus, and through this symbolism, promote new energy era for the benefit of all mankind. As for the Greek company "Defkalion Green Technologies SA", sadly and with great regret, I find myself in conscience for the frivolous and inconsistent to say the least inconsistent behaviorgeneral and for breach of contract financial documented with A. Rossi takes about almost a year. I conclude with an essay that the people of my native land Evrytania: "the lamb of the poor, never gets ram ...!." Prof.Ch. Stremmenos " And so the war carries on.
27 posted on 11/21/2011 9:19:17 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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