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Photos: Massive Saturn storm raged for 200 days - great pics
seattlepi ^ | 11/24/11 | seattlepi

Posted on 11/24/2011 12:37:53 PM PST by illiac

You think Seattle’s weather is bad lately? Check out what just happened on Saturn.

The gas giant’s northern atmosphere was host to a huge storm for 200 days, an all-time record for the-usually stormy planet. The previous record holder: a 1903 storm raged on Saturn for 150 days.

Duration aside, researchers say this storm is the largest Saturn has seen since 1990.

The storm started out small last year but had grown to circle the entire planet by January of 2011, according to Space.com. Huge storms like these are called “Great White Spots,” and Saturn tends to get one every couple of decades.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.seattlepi.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; chat; saturn; science

1 posted on 11/24/2011 12:38:01 PM PST by illiac
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To: illiac

Wild!


2 posted on 11/24/2011 12:40:25 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: illiac

Global warming


3 posted on 11/24/2011 12:40:34 PM PST by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: KevinDavis

Ping.


4 posted on 11/24/2011 12:40:44 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: illiac

Now, was this days on Saturn or days on Earth? Does it take 24 hours for Saturn to completely revolve or were they talking Earth revolutions. I am confused.


5 posted on 11/24/2011 12:41:36 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: sauropod

mark


6 posted on 11/24/2011 12:42:05 PM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: al baby

BRD all over the place on Saturn


7 posted on 11/24/2011 12:42:20 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: al baby

Obviously. And the root cause was your car...and capitalism. This problem can only be mended with another massive stimulus program.


8 posted on 11/24/2011 12:42:28 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: SunkenCiv

PING


9 posted on 11/24/2011 12:43:27 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: vetvetdoug

That’s a good question...maybe this will help:

The Overall Rotation of the Planet
Since Saturn does not have a solid surface, it is difficult to define a rotation period for the planet as a whole. Different portions of its visible “surface”, which represent different circulation systems in its atmosphere, move around its axis at different rates, according to whether they have westward or eastward motions relative to the overall rotation of the planet. “System I”, which refers to the Equatorial region, has a rotation rate of around 10 hours 14 minutes, while “System II”, which refers to non-Equatorial regions, has a rotation rate of around 10 hours 39 minutes. There is also a “System III” rotation, which refers to the rate of rotation of the planet’s radio emissions, which was once thought to refer to the rotation of the “body” of the planet, and at the time of the Voyager flybys, was around 10 hours 39 minutes. However, in the years since then, the System III rotation period has increased to 10 hours 45 minutes, indicating that it is not associated with the “real” rotation of the planet. Alterations in the position of the radio field, and in the plasma field surrounding the planet (possibly caused by geyser eruptions on Enceladus), are thought to be responsible for the change in the System III rotation rate; but whatever the cause of these changes, they cannot be due to a change in the rotation of the body of the planet. So the once-hoped-for fundamental nature of the System III rotation period has been disproved, and there is no currently conceivable way of estimating the “real” rotation of the planet as a whole. A recent compilation of results yields a rotation period of 10 hours 32 minutes 35 seconds; but this value is like the proverbial two point something children per American family — it may be mathematically useful, but it cannot be representative of any real family, since no family can contain a fraction of a child. In the same way, the compiled rotation period may be useful for some calculations (e.g., the comparison of roation period and day length mentioned below), but it has no correspondence to any real part of Saturn.
Regardless of these uncertainties, there is no doubt that Saturn has the second-fastest rotation rate of any planet, both in terms of its rotation period, and the speed of its rotation at the Equator, which is just under 10 kilometers per second, or about 35000 kilometers per hour (or just under 6 miles per second, or about 22000 miles per hour). Only Jupiter has a faster rotational velocity or rotation period.

Difference Between Rotation Period and Day Length
Since the rotation period of Saturn is so uncertain, the difference between its rotation period and day length is, for all practical purposes, unimportant; but as discussed at Rotation Period and Day Length, given its rapid rotation and long orbital period, the difference between the two values is only about one second. So no matter where you are on Saturn, whatever the local rotation period is, the length of the day is one second longer.

The Rotational Tilt of Saturn
The axis of Saturn’s rotation is tilted relative to its orbit by just under 27 degrees. This means that insofar as Saturn has seasons, they would be similar to those on the Earth, being relatively minor at the Equator, relatively extreme at the Poles, and in-between at in-between latitudes. However, since Saturn’s temperature is over 200 degrees below zero Fahrenheit, even its warmest summers are very cold by Earthly standards, and seasons as we know them do not exist.
Despite the lack of obvious seasonal effects, the tilt of Saturn’s axis does produce a very easily observable effect, because the ring system of the planet and the orbits of virtually all of the planet’s moons are very closely aligned to the planet’s Equatorial plane. Therefore, as discussed at The Rings of Saturn, when we see Saturn near one of its polar summers, we see the rings from above or below, as a broad, spectacular oval; whereas when we see Saturn near the start of its spring or fall (as we do in 2008 and 2009), the rings are barely visible, due to our nearly edge-on view.


10 posted on 11/24/2011 12:44:23 PM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Roccus
...PING

...Was thinking about civ myself, good show.

11 posted on 11/24/2011 12:49:43 PM PST by gargoyle ( Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice... Barry Goldwater.)
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To: illiac

This is positive proof the creatures living on Saturn are driving SUV’s and burning fossil fuels!


12 posted on 11/24/2011 12:57:13 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: illiac

Say Obama, for 500 million I’ll set up a row of wind turbines on Saturn, then run an extension cord....


13 posted on 11/24/2011 12:58:36 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: vetvetdoug
Now, was this days on Saturn or days on Earth? Does it take 24 hours for Saturn to completely revolve or were they talking Earth revolutions. I am confused.

Almost certanly Earth-days. Not sure how they measure the length of a day on a gas giant, anyway. Any solid core Saturn has is going to be many, many miles below the thick layer of swirling gases that we see at the surface.
14 posted on 11/24/2011 12:59:16 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: illiac

When a storm like this occurs on THIS planet, the humanoid idiots become hysterical and throw up another couple of “wind farms” while throwing away more money for more worthless “studies”. Morons. It’s a good thing there are no people on Saturn. Imagine how much this would cost the taxpayers there.


15 posted on 11/24/2011 1:18:26 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: al baby

Exactly al baby,
using too much carbon based fuel there they are.


16 posted on 11/24/2011 1:29:54 PM PST by Joe Boucher (FUBO ya quota boy ( Real conservative or go fish, Sooo, that leaves you out Mitt))
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To: illiac

bookmark


17 posted on 11/24/2011 1:57:34 PM PST by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’m fairly certain that no storm in the history of this planet has ever come anywhere near what Saturn gets.


18 posted on 11/24/2011 2:01:01 PM PST by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: al baby
Exoplanatery warming due interplanetary exported CO2 from earth to Saturn. Hallibuton did it and it is BUSH'S FAULT.
19 posted on 11/24/2011 2:33:32 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: al baby
Wait a minute ... how d'ya know?

Could be globull cooling, y'know.

And was it man made, Veusian made, Martian made, Saturnian made ... or did it come out of Uranus ???

I mean ... these questions have to be answered.

20 posted on 11/24/2011 4:12:27 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: illiac

That is about the best explanation of a planet’s rotation I have ever read. Thanks.


21 posted on 11/24/2011 4:24:06 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Roccus; brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; bigheadfred; KoRn; Grammy; married21; steelyourfaith; ...

An “extra, extra” ping to the APoD list members. Thanks Roccus!


22 posted on 11/24/2011 5:56:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: illiac

23 posted on 11/24/2011 6:07:12 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Note: this topic is from 11/24/2011. Thanks again Roccus.



24 posted on 12/22/2011 8:23:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: KoRn
You should have seen the size of the White Out they used!


25 posted on 12/22/2011 8:26:44 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: SunkenCiv; bigheadfred
Cool pix, Civ.

Where is fred? I miss him.
26 posted on 12/22/2011 1:47:22 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

He’s a busy guy, probably the holidays are even busier.


27 posted on 12/22/2011 6:34:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: TheOldLady; SunkenCiv

Hi TOL. Nice of you to think of me. I have been busy. Insanely busy. But this last couple of days was more relaxed. I got to sit yesterday most of the day. You know, for that 600 mile round trip drive to pick up the daughter in Boise.

And the motherboard in my computer fried. So it has been in the shop.

Hey Civ, my folks were doing some research down at the LDS genealogy library and my mom found a recipe for making ink on a page from 1882. It says the recipe is “circa 1619”. I was going to scan it last night, but my printer is out of ink and apparently it won’t let me scan a recipe for ink since it is out. Bit hard to decipher but interesting if you are interested. To me, a little gem.

I think I may have a touch of arsenic type poisoning. I’ll tell ya’ll if you want.


28 posted on 12/23/2011 7:35:49 AM PST by bigheadfred (MERRY CHRISTMAS)
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To: bigheadfred

Arsenic... from CCA lumber?

The ink recipe sounds interesting, and it’s amusing and ironic that the printer wouldn’t scan an ink recipe. :’) Probably has as its primary ingredient “lamp black”.

When the motherboard fries, it earns a couple more syllables. ;’)

Glad you had a safe trip, other than the arsenic.


29 posted on 12/23/2011 5:10:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The boss went down to Trestlewood and picked up a couple of pieces for a custom bar top. He told me I should be able to easy get 79” length. I said that’s great. The raised panel wainscot I just built for it to sit on is 91”. He said Oh. So we went out back and dragged in a couple of leftover 4” x 12” x 12’ stuff and I went to town. Yeah. CCA.

Trestlewood is literally that. They have scavenged a big yard full of reclaimed old trestles. High dollar and nonreturnable.

This cabinet job is going in a $4 million dollar house up in the Yellowstone Club in Big Sky.

As an aside we fill knotholes with Bondo colored with lampblack.

I should have a camera handy for some of the stuff I do. I don’t get a chance to get any after it leaves the shop.


30 posted on 12/23/2011 5:57:41 PM PST by bigheadfred (MERRY CHRISTMAS)
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To: bigheadfred

The main way that’s absorbed is inhalation, but I’m sure you knew that.

Right now I’m trying to get my mind around the idea of a $4 million house...

For that kind of money, the bathrooms had better have automatic ass-wipers.


31 posted on 12/23/2011 7:13:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Automated squirt guns.


32 posted on 12/23/2011 7:23:00 PM PST by MaxMax
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To: SunkenCiv
Well, at least they have some custom vanities. The automatic ass wipers are good. 'Cept they don't speak English... Inhalation. After you mill it there is the sanding. And that was a little large to fit on the downdraft sanding table I built.

Link to The Yellowstone Club

Freepmail.

33 posted on 12/23/2011 7:27:54 PM PST by bigheadfred (MERRY CHRISTMAS)
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