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5-Year-Old Handcuffed, Charged With Battery On Officer
http://www.kcra.com/r/29847063/detail.html ^ | 11/24/2011 | Dave Manoucheri/KCRA

Posted on 11/24/2011 5:53:24 PM PST by Morgana

STOCKTON, Calif. (KCRA) -- Earlier this year, a Stockton student was handcuffed with zip ties on his hands and feet, forced to go to the hospital for a psychiatric evaluation and was charged with battery on a police officer. That student was 5 years old.

Michael Davis is diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or ADHD. His mother says it has led to fights at school. But when the school district said it had a plan to change Michael's behavior, his mother says things went wrong.

"Michael is energetic," Thelma Gray said. "He is one big ball of energy."

Gray calls Michael a comedian. She says his biggest problem is his ADHD stops him from thinking before he acts or speaks.

"He's very loving," Gray said. "He's a good kid and he's not the discipline problem that he was made out to be."

Those discipline problems include fights with other students, even throwing a chair.

Gray says the school, Rio Calaveras Elementary of Stockton, wanted to change that behavior by having Michael meet with a school police officer.

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Yea 5 year old's are very dangerous to cops
1 posted on 11/24/2011 5:53:26 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana
Did the officer hog-tie and charge the child right before or after the mandatory anti-bullying classes?

Having said that, I have no problem with whatever physical restraint is necessary if the kid is presenting a threat to himself or others, but how much restraint is necessary for a five year old? And criminal charges?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!

2 posted on 11/24/2011 5:58:05 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Joe the five year old was on America’s Most Wanted last week! Yea really! He is wanted for grand theft auto. (stole a neighbor kids toy car)

Yea Joe he is a hardened criminal I tell you. Headed for Sing Song prison this one is.

(do I even need the sarc tag for all of this?)


3 posted on 11/24/2011 6:00:41 PM PST by Morgana (Rent this Space....Cheap)
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To: Morgana

Sounds like he is allergic to male authority figures. What he needs is a strong father in his life who’ll discipline him properly until he learns to control himself.


4 posted on 11/24/2011 6:05:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Morgana

land-of-the-free alert.


5 posted on 11/24/2011 6:09:50 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (guitars and women.)
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To: Morgana
Those discipline problems include fights with other students, even throwing a chair.

Wow.

I should have been put away for life at that age.

6 posted on 11/24/2011 6:10:27 PM PST by Semper Mark (Pray. Vote. Buy ammo.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Sounds like he is allergic to male authority figures. What he needs is a strong father in his life who’ll discipline him properly until he learns to control himself.

Exactly. But until then, they should take away his gun and badge.

7 posted on 11/24/2011 6:10:47 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (guitars and women.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

HA!!!


8 posted on 11/24/2011 6:13:20 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: the invisib1e hand

lol!


9 posted on 11/24/2011 6:17:22 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Pimp your blog for hits on Free Republic!)
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To: Morgana

10 posted on 11/24/2011 6:17:44 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

Don't make me climb over this counter, punk!

11 posted on 11/24/2011 6:20:02 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (guitars and women.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Thelma Grays son is named Michael Davis....possible cause of allergies???


12 posted on 11/24/2011 6:21:15 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Morgana

GREAT Profile page Morgana. That’s the RQSR attitude.


13 posted on 11/24/2011 6:22:14 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Morgana

This isn’t the first time I have seen stories of 5-9 year olds assaulting cops on FR. lol. Mean little farts. heh

Those cops deserve medals. lol.


14 posted on 11/24/2011 6:29:15 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Morgana
Michael Davis is diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder or ADHD.

He's 5 years old. He's got BRAT disorder. And parents that probably should have stuck with puppies or cats for companionship. Or maybe pet rocks.

This just plain embarrassing to read all of the over educated numb skulls that had to get involved in this train wreck of incompetent parents vs incompetent administrators and bloated bureaucratic system. I'm so glad the government confiscates my money to fund this sort of thing (read: crap).

Flame throwers ready.....the odds that this kid has an organic medical problem are no better than 1 in a thousand, probably not even that.

15 posted on 11/24/2011 6:41:33 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Morgana

What’s the sex and size of the officer? UMass recently had a 4 foot 10, Asian, lesbian chief of police (don’t get me started). She would have had to shoot this kid to control him.


16 posted on 11/24/2011 6:42:34 PM PST by pabianice (")
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To: GeronL

Cops are not your friend anymore and certainly not someone to look up to as a role model. As demonstrated by this brave example of todays police officer. Good thing the kid didn’t have a dog


17 posted on 11/24/2011 6:44:35 PM PST by clamper1797 (Hoping to have some change left)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I was just going to say, Child, that I bet this kid has a food allergy and needs a stripped down diet that doesn't involve lots of carbs and high fructose corn syrup.

They wanted to label my son ADHD. He wasn't. He was hypoglycemic. Changed his diet and no more problems.

But then again, hypoglycemia doesn't qualify for additional federal funding. They weren't interested in him from that point forward.

So glad I decided to home school when he got older...

18 posted on 11/24/2011 6:47:21 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Rock you like a Herman Cain 2012)
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To: TheWriterTX
Researching this info. My son has had NO behavior problems until we brought home his baby sister. He had breast milk for the first year and homemade baby food. When I had our daughter things went kind of haywire. We are now back on track nutritionally, but now my son has some seasonal allergies he just can't kick. We took him off dairy because it makes him produce even more mucus and subbed his whole milk with juice. Even though it is all-natural there is no fiber to counteract the sucrose. I just ordered a Vitamix blender from QVC. My hope is that adding whole veg to his fruit will counterbalance the sucrose.
19 posted on 11/24/2011 6:56:25 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Morgana
Yea 5 year old's are very dangerous to cops

You need more apostrophes. It should be:

Ye'a 5 year old's are very dangerou's to cop's

20 posted on 11/24/2011 7:01:54 PM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Morgana

children that are out of control with mental issues can bite and human bites are more dangerous than dog bites, they can also head butt, breaking noses.
Moreover, the child can hurt himself with headbanging etc.

At some point, the officers had to make a decision. I would want to know the whole story of the episode.


21 posted on 11/24/2011 7:02:06 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Morgana

22 posted on 11/24/2011 7:04:11 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: ChildOfThe60s

In the old days, this kid would be dead or institutionalized pretty soon.
Tmes have changed.
That’s why we see this stuff in schools, etc. that we never used to..add to that the general lack of discipline, we’ve got a mess for a teacher to try to deal with and teach.


23 posted on 11/24/2011 7:05:59 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Morgana

Why do they allow frightened geldings who quiver at the sight of a 5-year old to become police officers?


24 posted on 11/24/2011 7:10:08 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: Morgana

Perhaps one problem is that the schools would rather drug kids into submission than teach them how to live with their behavior.

He needs an outlet for his energy. He needs classes that involve a lot of activity. And he needs good discipline.


25 posted on 11/24/2011 7:13:54 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Morgana

Cop is a loser


26 posted on 11/24/2011 7:26:00 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Morgana

5 year old handcuffed... What were you thinking officer? No matter what, a 5year old is not dangerous.


27 posted on 11/24/2011 7:28:54 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
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To: Morgana

5 year old handcuffed... What were you thinking officer? No matter what, a 5year old is not dangerous.


28 posted on 11/24/2011 7:28:56 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (Cain/West 2012....what would the RACISTS LIBERALS say???)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Ding ding ding!
We have a winner!

ROTFLMAO!


29 posted on 11/24/2011 7:29:28 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: the invisib1e hand
Well played.
30 posted on 11/24/2011 7:36:10 PM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: TheWriterTX
So glad I decided to home school when he got older...

I can empathize with you. We homeschooled from the get go, because the school system was so bad, but also because there was no way our daughter and the school were going to peacefully coexist.

As far as other reasons for behavioral problems, I also understand. Ours had a pretty strong issue with dairy products. We thought it was just intestinal type problems, but discovered that if we fed her dairy several days in a row she turned into a little monster (figure about 1-1/2 to 2 yo). Easily remedied in her case. But, that was not the reason for HSing. She was too smart, too high strung and too much of a perfectionist. She needed the kind of handling that the school system was incapable of. All problems were Ritalin problems. They were drugging every non compliant kid into submission. The numbers were ugly, IMO.

My point is that you are correct, but statistically you are the exception. If I had to bet based on just what is in this piece, I'm going to bet on what I said. Sure I could be wrong. But it's a lot more likely I'm going to win than if I bet the other way.

We have these discussions on FR all the time where we have to extrapolate from the limited information we get. The thing I have noticed is some of us tend to go from the micro to the macro in our interpretations. That's the wrong direction logically.

31 posted on 11/24/2011 7:38:13 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Chuckle.

Keep talking like that and you made need a trip to the hoosegow for a little attitude adjustment.


32 posted on 11/24/2011 7:40:56 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Morgana

I wonder if he had to call for back up?


33 posted on 11/24/2011 7:41:09 PM PST by vigilante2 (Reelect nobody)
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To: Morgana

Reads as though The Board of Eduction needs to be applied to the Seat of Knowledge.


34 posted on 11/24/2011 7:45:10 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
In the “old days” children were not expected to be “gender neutral” in public schools, solely for the convenience of their teachers.
Boys were encouraged to expend their energy in physical activity, and then focus on subjects.
Girls were encouraged to take a break from focusing on subjects, and exert energy on physical pursuits.

Nobody needed drugs.

And back in the old days, nobody was stupid enough to think little boys and little girls should be forced to react in ways that were convenient to their teachers, but against human nature.
Poor teachers!
If they could gain the power to force their students to uniformly comply, the job of teaching the little brats would be soo much easier!

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35 posted on 11/24/2011 8:15:06 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Morgana

Did the cop shoot the suspect with 22 bullets?


36 posted on 11/24/2011 8:17:23 PM PST by sagar
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Yep!

Decades ago, I knew a rambunctious little boy who had to sit QUIETLY in church for 1 very long hour. Same for the ladies apparel dept. at Gayfers, & numerous other places.

That little boy didn't like it one bit! But the huge, tail-swatting hand was always quicker than the child, & had a vise grip. The lesson was quickly learned.

The boy survived, didn't become a mass murderer or anything bad, & society was a little better for it.

I'd say the kid in this story would fit right in at any OWS protest.

37 posted on 11/24/2011 8:21:53 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: sagar

Yes. The cop fired 22 bullets of caliber .45! :)


38 posted on 11/24/2011 8:32:14 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: goodwithagun
Check him for candidas. If his candidas is out of wack, any sugar (even good, wholesome ones that come from fruits, peanuts, 100% juices, and other natural sources) can exacerbate allergies and sinus infections. You would also have to strip all yeast out of his diet and stick to vegetables and meats only for a while.

Since he is so young, definitely check with your pediatrician. Candidas Albicans can cause a lot of problems if unchecked, including problems concentrating, mood swings, problems sleeping, chronic fatigue, etc.

My son couldn't do milk either.

39 posted on 11/24/2011 8:36:14 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Rock you like a Herman Cain 2012)
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To: sarasmom

Yes. Meanwhile, why is a 5-yo boy being forced to sit quietly in a chair as if he were a compliant 9-yo girl? Most 5 -yo boys just are not ready for the government school routine of “shut up and obey my orders.” It takes time to break their spirit.

Mama needs to be home for her son, and son needs to have a full-time father to help him expend some of that NORMAL boy energy.

oh, and cop needs to find another line of work.


40 posted on 11/24/2011 8:37:38 PM PST by womanvet (The lesser of two evils is STILL Romney. Don't settle for evil; beat Obama with a Cain)
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To: womanvet
Here's a shocker for you!
I don't care if or why mom is or isn't at home, or whether or not Dad is around. I don't consider that any of my business.

I do care that my taxes go towards paying for a bloated, corrupt, and inefficient public education system that is consistently failing to fulfill their supposed government charter in our society.
Compulsory K-12 education has drifted far beyond the noble goal of providing a “free” opportunity for every minor child citizen of the USA, to obtain at least a basic level of literacy involving reading,writing, mathematics, science and history.

The K-12 compulsory education system has devolved into a bureaucracy more concerned with expanding their power, money and benefits than educating children.

41 posted on 11/24/2011 9:23:57 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: womanvet

>Most 5 -yo boys just are not ready for the government school routine of “shut up and obey my orders.”

Why do you think they start at age 5...

>It takes time to break their spirit.

...and continue for another 13 years?


42 posted on 11/24/2011 9:30:20 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: womanvet
oh, and cop needs to find another line of work.

As do the over educated people that think all children who can't perform like regimented adults should be drugged into submission.

Personally, I'd pay good money to see all the elementary school teachers and administrators be forced to sit still for 6 hours everyday, be forced to eat lunch without speaking, have no recess time and be hollered at for squirming after several hours this regimentation. Ditto for the doctors that rubber stamp the opinions of a teacher that says a child who doesn't have the attention span of an adult should be drugged.

I've seen it up close. I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to pump soma into the a/c vents every day a la Huxley.

Parents of children with genuine problems, don't bother flaming me. What I've said about the system is still true.

43 posted on 11/24/2011 9:36:27 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Immensely cute, clever.


44 posted on 11/24/2011 9:37:54 PM PST by lbryce (There is no pro-choice option.It's either providing the gift of life or it's murder,plain and simple)
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To: TheWriterTX

Thank you for bringing this up. My Nephew has severe autism...THE ORIGINAL autism..not this umbrella autism they stick little boys under when they have ants in their pants. And you are correct. So much of it is food allergy. If people really knew they’d be shocked. I was just speaking to a gal whose son had all the characteristics of autism...the wanted to put him on drugs, but she did her own research and changed his diet..CELIAC disease...he’s fine now.


45 posted on 11/24/2011 10:02:31 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: Morgana

Well, since you can no longer even SPANK a child in most states without CPS getting involved, what did you think was going to happen?


46 posted on 11/25/2011 12:00:19 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: sarasmom

One middle school has banned any sports with “balls” cause a parent on the sidelines got hit in the head with a flying ball...I give up.


47 posted on 11/25/2011 5:23:46 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Mister Da; ChildOfThe60s; womanvet; sarasmom; All

“She knows because she ultimately obtained a copy of the police report.

In it, the officer, Lt. Frank Gordo, says he placed his hand on Michael’s and, “the boy pushed my hand away in a batting motion, pushed papers off the table, and kicked me in the right knee.”

When Michael wouldn’t calm down, Gordo cuffed Michael’s hands and feet with zip ties and took the boy to the Stockton Kaiser Psychiatric Hospital in the back of a squad car.

He had not called Michael’s mother or father at that point.”

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Think about this. The boy went beserk when the cop touched his knee. We are not allowed to touch cops but a cop can touch this kid? Furthermore, the kid goes wild when touched? The cop did not suspect some kind of sexual abuse in the child? Oh good job officer. Yes and officer always a good idea to be alone in the room with a child this young just asking to have sex abuse charges brought against you years later.


48 posted on 11/25/2011 7:00:28 AM PST by Morgana (Rent this Space....Cheap)
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To: Morgana

This thing was a cluster f**k from the get go.

I don’t think I’d automatically suspect child abuse because the kid went berserk when being touched by the cop. My kid would have gone off had a stranger done the same thing. Probably would have started screaming to high heaven. We can’t really get a feel for the emotional dynamics at that moment.

Personally, I don’t think the average 5 yo boy should be in public school all day to begin with. Not that I am assuming this kid is average. And we shouldn’t be calling out police to deal with 5 yo behavior problems. Loony.

You can bet the bank that everyone involved in this incident is massaging their version of events.


49 posted on 11/25/2011 7:36:13 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Morgana
If the cop was alone in the room with the boy, that's unfortunate. That is not a reason to do nothing.

A 5 year old cannot be left alone, especially if they are disturbed. Neither can they be allowed to go berserk, damage property, or injure themselves or others.

The only recourse for ANY non-parental adult is to restrain the child. Based on the little I know from this story, I think the cop did the right thing.

I am completely on the side of the public when a child goes berserk. They must be stopped & restrained immediately, & the parents held entirely responsible for the behavior of the child, to the point of criminal charges of neglect & abuse, plus payment of damages.

Until there are serious penalties for failure to raise a human child vs. a wild animal, society will continue to decline.

50 posted on 11/25/2011 9:43:51 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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