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Weekly Gardening Thread 2011 (Vol. 46) November 25
Free Republic | 11-25-2011 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 11/25/2011 5:10:38 AM PST by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners. I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving yesterday. My day was nice, quiet and lazy. Mrs. RD had to go to work at one pm and did not get off until two this morning, so we will be having our Thanksgiving feast this afternoon. We are having a roasted Turkey breast with the typical side dishes. We usually have a Ham but Mrs. RD wanted Turkey this year so Turkey it is.

It is forecast to be in the low 70s today so I may get out and gather up some leaves for the compost and some pine needles for mulching.

If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.


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1 posted on 11/25/2011 5:10:43 AM PST by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
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2 posted on 11/25/2011 5:12:13 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I plan to finally get some bulbs in the ground today. And about time. We had some rime (touch of frost)on the grass yesterday morning here in western MA., but it’s getting warmer and we still haven’t had a hard frost. Six squirrels hit the tree with all the bird seed this morning, as usual, plus some little red squirrels, mourning doves, chickadees, nut hatches, woodpeckers. And blue jays. The cardinals go to the feeder on the other side of the house. I’ve been rolling pine cones in peanut butter and sunflower seed for the birds, but that squirrel family steals everything.

I have four dachshunds very interested in everything I do, so I expect I’ll have to replant those bulbs a couple of times. They come right along after me and dig up everything.


3 posted on 11/25/2011 5:20:58 AM PST by hershey
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To: hershey

“... they come right along after me and dig up everything”

Little devils are helping. They see you digging so they give you a hand. Of course, it would be far more helpful if they dug a hole BEFORE you planted the bulb... LOL!


4 posted on 11/25/2011 5:26:40 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Red_Devil 232

My garden is doing well with the 1.75” rain we got. I may try to get the onions into the ground today if I have time.


5 posted on 11/25/2011 5:28:25 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I’ve received more than a dozen seed and nursery catalogs so far. They arrive earlier every year it seems.

Our raised beds are cleaned out and turned over with a bit of compost added. I might add a third raised bed nearby since there is adequate sun. We have a lot of big oaks so shade is a consideration.


6 posted on 11/25/2011 5:38:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Arrowhead1952

Glad to hear you finally got some rain.


7 posted on 11/25/2011 5:51:10 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Tomatoes, cucumbers and sweet peppers in December?

Our average first frost date is 15 November. During the pre-dawn morning of the 11th we briefing touched 31 degrees, hit an afternoon high of 68 degrees, followed the next day by a high of 80 degrees.

Plants which survived the awesome summer heat are bearing fruit and the bees are still flitting from blossom to blossom doing their busy work. But, the tomatoes are still green, the surviving cucumber plants are producing fewer and smaller cukes. Bell peppers are decent producers but the peppers are smaller than in the spring.

Oddly, the seranno, jalapeno, and pablano peppers are going like gangbusters even with the fluctuating night and daytime temps, as are our cherry tomatoes.

Ten day forecast calls for night temps 38 - 48 degrees and day temps 64 - 76 degrees.

With a little luck, maybe we’ll have vine ripened tomatoes for Christmas.

Snow peas, broccoli, cabbage, collards, onions and garlic are coming along nicely. And so are all the potted herbs. Only the Thai basil seems to be giving up.

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!


8 posted on 11/25/2011 5:54:03 AM PST by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The biggest thing this year, for me, has been expanding my cultivation efforts beyond my kitchen gardens (38 raised beds) and the rows behind the barn for corn, beans and squash. I have been clearing a small field in the back of my barn that hasn't seen a plow in at least 50 years. Last summer (actually this fall), I finally felt that I might have checked the weeds that dominate there. I used them as a green manure crop and tilled them in (3X) when they reached a foot or so in height. At the end of the last cultivation, I planted buckwheat and let it flower - weeds were nearly zero in come back. I know this because I tilled an additional strip to expand the field that got only two tillings and weed germination was significantly higher in that strip. Tilled under the buckwheat with the contents of a year's worth of chicken coop litter and planted rye. Tucked it all in for a winter's rest with a mulch of straw. Next spring, after the rye goes under, we'll reseed with alfalfa and sweet clover for a year's cutting of hay for the chickens.

For me, this is cause for Thanksgiving. We feel that this year we are finally making progress on the Haney Place. We hope you all have a restful winter and great success in next year's endeavors!

9 posted on 11/25/2011 5:58:16 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Expiate your inner liberal racist guilt, but use your brain: Vote CAIN in 2012!)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

There is very little good soil around the Lake of the Ozarks so we had the garden soil trucked in. It was harvested from a river bottom north of here and is quite heavy.
We added cotton burr to fluff up the material.


10 posted on 11/25/2011 6:05:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Red_Devil 232

Red_Devil, I am never here on Fridays to post a “hello” and a “thank you” so here it is. Hello, and thank you.

CH3CN


11 posted on 11/25/2011 6:06:13 AM PST by CH3CN (A stitch in time is worth two in the bush.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I have been fooling around in the dirt (er, soil) for a long time and am still learning. The best book I’ve read of late is this: http://www.amazon.com/Gardening-When-Counts-Growing-Mother/dp/086571553X The book is loaded, and I mean loaded, with good information about producing food anywhere under nearly all conditions. No snotty enviro stuff and it’s all written from experience for practical application at the low tech level. Very good and highly recommended for all gardeners at all levels of experience. Good luck, Eric!


12 posted on 11/25/2011 6:19:19 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Expiate your inner liberal racist guilt, but use your brain: Vote CAIN in 2012!)
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To: CH3CN

Good to see you here this morning.


13 posted on 11/25/2011 6:27:07 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

My gardening is pretty much over for this year. Did get some garlic in the pots but we don’t care for greens so didn’t plant any. Since I have to use buried pots since all we have is sand it’s just pulling the pot dropping in some compost and put the pot back in and I’m ready for next year. Might seem tedious to some but it goes rather quickly.


14 posted on 11/25/2011 6:33:06 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Red_Devil 232

In central Jersey, between the rain and the warm temps, we’re having a re-bloom of some early summer flowers.


15 posted on 11/25/2011 6:51:49 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I have often wondered about cotton waste. Do you get that burr from the gin?


16 posted on 11/25/2011 7:12:49 AM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Lady Bender did her usual masterful job on the Turkey and Fixins. Guests were my daughter and her husband and their son and his girlfriend (this is new). Her daughter is now married and went to his parents home in NE Calif near the border. Our son and his wife traditionally spend this week in Portland Ore shopping, going to shows and exhibits.

I have many things to be Thankful including the fact my daughter got me my Fotki account back. I assumed it was a password error but she spotted the problem within seconds. My account name had gotten corrupted and there was never a reason to change my passwords.

I made a quick pass through the garden yesterday and noticed about 90% of my 7 varieties of Garlic are up with several at 100%. My cover crop of Red Oats is also sprouting but I don’t see the Austrian Field Peas yet. We still have a few Raspberries producing in our patch so I had a few. The temp in the compost piles show they are still active but they are darn soggy from the rains even though they are covered.


17 posted on 11/25/2011 7:46:03 AM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

A storm moving across the country. Just heard the heaviest rain is expected in the Mississippi valley.


18 posted on 11/25/2011 7:52:23 AM PST by MtnClimber ( People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them - Eric Hoffer)
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To: MtnClimber

Do you still have snow on the ground?


19 posted on 11/25/2011 8:25:11 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Lots of snow on the ground. Eldora Mountain Resort is a ski area I can see from the back window and they are open. it is 34F right now. Not too cold.


20 posted on 11/25/2011 8:35:00 AM PST by MtnClimber ( People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them - Eric Hoffer)
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To: tubebender

I bought it from a local garden store/nursery in 40 or 50 pound bags. Wife read a story about this stuff in her master gardener magazine and we were surprised to find it locally...


21 posted on 11/25/2011 9:36:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Red_Devil 232; All

Good afternoon. It is another glorious day in Missouri. Shirt sleeve weather and beautiful sunshine. I got in my morning walk early before breakfast.

It was a great feast yesterday, all the usual plus everyone brought 1 new dish to try. Every space on my kitchen counters and buffet were full. My granny would have said we have enough food to feed Cox’s army. I have no idea who Cox is. LOL.

Probably going to bag a few leaves outdoors, and plant some more pots of herbs and spinach for indoor garden. Not doing the Black Friday shopping. No money, and I don’t like crazy crowds.LOL.

Everyone have a great Holiday weekend. God Bless.


22 posted on 11/25/2011 10:18:46 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Winter wheat is finally under snow cover.

Chickens are up to 5-7 eggs/day.

Venison has been harvested, processed and frozen.

Ready for garden catalogs.


23 posted on 11/25/2011 10:23:40 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946...and thankful for it!)
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To: greeneyes

It is a beautiful day here in Meridian, Mississippi also! Pocket T-Shirt weather - 70F, sunny with a very slight breeze. Very nice.


24 posted on 11/25/2011 10:44:39 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Life is good. We have much to be thankful for. We are in the 60’s today. Down to 52 degrees tonight, and then back to the 40’s and 30’s for the next 5 days.

I love it when Thanksgiving has that Indian Summer type weather! Sometimes in Missouri, we have snow at Thanksgiving. Never a dull moment here with respect to the wheather. LOL.

25 posted on 11/25/2011 10:52:39 AM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Are you selling eggs?


26 posted on 11/25/2011 11:14:10 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

How many ya want? LOL

Not yet, but it is keeping our friends supplied.

Also bought some cheese on sale for rarebit.

Dug out Betty Crocker & the on-line 1896 Fannie Farmer for “13 egg cake”; Lord & Lady Baltimore cakes; pickled eggs; flan....


27 posted on 11/25/2011 1:59:14 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946...and thankful for it!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I have to ask my sister (the only one left) if we still have relatives on our Mother’s side living in the Meridian area. Gorgeous sunny weather here in Benderville also and I should be out cleaning up the from perennial garden but this day is part of the holiday so I toured our Old Town area and took a few photos to post on another forum. Looking forward to left overs for dinner which I think tastes better than the original...


28 posted on 11/25/2011 2:08:44 PM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: tubebender

I am watching the LSU Arkansas game. Ark is chipping away at LSU. Have a feeling LSU will prevail.


29 posted on 11/25/2011 2:14:42 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

It was a close game until after half time. LSU is running away with it.


30 posted on 11/25/2011 2:49:07 PM PST by MtnClimber ( People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them - Eric Hoffer)
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To: MtnClimber

Yep! LSU has a very good team. I just have a huge grudge against them that has been in place for many years!


31 posted on 11/25/2011 3:03:55 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I know what you mean. I went to the University of Florida so we played LSU often.

It just started snowing like crazy. visibility is only about 20 yards.


32 posted on 11/25/2011 3:34:30 PM PST by MtnClimber ( People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them - Eric Hoffer)
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To: MtnClimber

You’re so Lucky!!! It never snows in Benderville...


33 posted on 11/25/2011 4:42:56 PM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The only gardening I have going on is inside, now. The tomatoes I planted are a mixed success, One is reaching for the sky, it’s taller than I am already. One is about 2 feet tall and bushy. One decided it didn’t like this idea and died after I was sure it was rooting fine. The last one is alive, but it hasn’t changed at all from when I planted it. That’s a little wierd.

We’re still eating the tomatoes i picked green before the freeze. They’ve been ripening slowly in a bowl. And my squash and pumpkins are keeping nicely just sitting on the counter. I love how they do that.

Still working toward getting my house built.


34 posted on 11/25/2011 4:55:18 PM PST by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I have a Meyer lemon tree planted in a large pot that I bring in, Northern Indiana, on the south porch in the winter. This is it's second year on the porch and it is sporting ONE LEMON which is turning yellow.

Does anyone know when to pick them?? Also some leaves are turning yellow, should I fertilize??

The lime tree did not set any fruit this year.

Marcia

35 posted on 11/25/2011 6:25:54 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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To: Battle Axe

I’ve read that iron chelate(?) might help with the yellowing leaves. I’m sure the internet might be more helpful, I might be mis-remembering.

I usually pick my Meyer Lemons when they’re all the way yellow. I’ve had them keep on my counter for up to a month. But we keep our house really cool in the winter.


36 posted on 11/25/2011 6:41:27 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: tubebender

It is 24F and blowing snow right now. I am thinking of growing a few tomatoes indoors this winter.


37 posted on 11/25/2011 6:55:10 PM PST by MtnClimber ( People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them - Eric Hoffer)
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To: Battle Axe
Sounds like it could be iron deficiency. Here is an article on fertilizers and growing citrus trees Citrus Fertilizer Recommendations.
38 posted on 11/25/2011 7:18:06 PM PST by MtnClimber ( People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them - Eric Hoffer)
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To: MtnClimber; Red_Devil 232

I see a band of rain moving through the heart of Texas from the Rio Grande into Ok


39 posted on 11/25/2011 9:12:05 PM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Came across this whilst looking for information on ferrocement aquariums for aquaponics...

 

"Faith And Sustainable Technologies is a 501(c)3 non-profit corporation formed to assist the poor of this world. It is our desire to share the gospel, and hope, in practical ways by demonstrating a lifestyle that pleases God and sharing information that can empower the poor to receive the blessings of God firsthand."

http://www.fastonline.org/content/category/4/15/29/

"Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, and the man who gets understanding.  (Proverbs 3:13)"



...and thought it might bring a smile to the face of some my fellow FReepers in the Garden section... like it did to me.
 

40 posted on 11/25/2011 9:14:52 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Greetings from southern New Hampshire! My son just got home from visiting his Mother and his old friends in northern Virginia where we lived for four years. Duty call for him and he drove down Wednesday evening, and came back last night arriving this morning about 6:45 AM. Oh to be young!

It seems that all of our older hens are now laying as we got 11 chicken eggs and three duck eggs...a maximum effort! The five Maran pullets are now integrated into the flock, and while not exactly bosom buddies, are accepted. Barb cleaned the kitchen and took down the crate and we are no longer infested with "house chickens"!

Having a four-day weekend is nice. Now to wrap up the outside chores while the weather holds.

41 posted on 11/26/2011 5:01:57 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Only a few things left in the garden, all my cole crops. I was thrilled to have Brussels sprouts fresh off the stalk with our thanksgiving dinner. They were a bit leafy as opposed to heads, but tasted wonderful when roasted. I have a couple heads of red cabbage out there, the bunnies ate all the green cabbage. Little bit of broccoli, too. Otherwise, we’re done. Not a bad year.


42 posted on 11/26/2011 7:58:35 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; MtnClimber; happydogx2; All
I took these photos today. First is the Garlic and Red Oats coming up and the second one is the Raspberries. There are enough to eat but not enough to pick and save...


43 posted on 11/26/2011 2:58:41 PM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: LomanBill

Dear #40 and gardening freepers,

I’m a long-time FReeper, (short and lousy-time gardener).

Got a great fence to keep deer out, raised beds with brand new soil, showed me where the food comes from off the plants. The next year weaker soil and then huge drought and extreme heat wave. No harvest this year in Central Texas.

Found out about Aquaponics and have given that a try, had the beds, fish & tank set up and as soon as the heat wave got below 100 degrees (in October) the plants started growing.

The leaves are HUGH & series. (Freeper talk from long ago)
Just waiting for cooler weather to give me tighter sprouts, lettuce etc. But for the LOUSY gardener, the Aquaponics WORKS!!!


44 posted on 11/26/2011 4:24:33 PM PST by The Bat Lady (I planted Arugala because of Obama, it is awful! Never again!)
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To: The Bat Lady

>>But for the LOUSY gardener, the Aquaponics WORKS!!!

Ah, that’s good to hear. I’m building a small experimental solar greenhouse and am using water as thermal mass to store heat.

Aquaponics sounds like a good way to put the water to multiple uses.

What kind of fish you using in your system?

Better put your beebers on stune for those hugh leaves ;-}

=Bill


45 posted on 11/26/2011 4:50:23 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: LomanBill

Don’t eat fish so went with goldfish not Talipia. I do like Talipia of any fish and might change to that next spring. but for now learning on 0.27 cent goldfish. Alot died till I learned things. Goldfish are great for pooing and peeing. The plants are growing well.


46 posted on 11/26/2011 5:09:57 PM PST by The Bat Lady (I planted Arugala because of Obama, it is awful! Never again!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
 


From a neighbor.....Florida avocado Lula variety. Better than Hass. Plus small red finger banana. That banana stalk was full of red bananas but a lot got eaten


A small mango tree of mine putting forth new growth...always great to see on a young fruit tree

 


My tangerine tree.... It had some problems but is coming back


Bananas in my yard. Maybe ready in 4-6 weeks

47 posted on 11/27/2011 7:02:04 AM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-Sting)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We had a nice long Thanksgiving weekend here in Central Missouri. Hauled two 16x7 trailer loads of stall sweepings from the horse college before the rains came on Saturday. One load went on the compost heap and the other went to re-mulch my orchard trees.


48 posted on 11/28/2011 9:25:21 AM PST by Augie
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To: dennisw

What is that grass the Avocados are laying on? Must be in Florida...


49 posted on 11/28/2011 12:44:11 PM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Has anyone ever built a Rodale winter sun garden cold frame? They had a book, which I have kept on my to-do list for 31 years.

Anyone have any info. I'm ready to build it now.

50 posted on 11/29/2011 3:36:37 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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