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Retailers are calling it ‘Christmas’ again
Houston Chronical ^ | Nov. 26, 2011 | Kate Shellnutt

Posted on 11/26/2011 3:44:58 PM PST by BobL

Walgreens is the latest store to return to explicit references to Christmas, switching its position a day after some Christian groups threatened to boycott over its generic holiday wording.

The American Family Association and the Liberty Counsel—Christian groups that maintain lists of “naughty” and “nice” retailers based on which stores reference Christmas—applauded Walgreens’ switch, along with several other big stores who are coming off the naughty list for the first time in years.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Religion
KEYWORDS: christmas; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2011
Some good news and a break from the (messy) Republican Primary process. We are showing that we can play ball also...if we organize and do it right.

Here is a link to the list. Notice how many have moved from the "naughty" to the "nice" column. It really does look like Christmas is making a comeback, finally.

http://www.lc.org/index.cfm?PID=17981

1 posted on 11/26/2011 3:44:59 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL
Any store that opts out of "Christmas"....Here's my plan.

I will buy many things.....then take them all back and when they ask why....I'll tell them....They were supposed to be "Christmas" presents but apparently they're not. Sop next year....sell Christmas presents.

2 posted on 11/26/2011 3:48:17 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

I LIKE IT!!!

Much better than sending an E-Mail. Do it with REAL DOLLARS.


3 posted on 11/26/2011 3:51:26 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: BobL

I’ve been always confused by the expression “Happy Holidays” when only a Christmas motif was presented. No Thanksgiving (that expression usually is used before T-Day) no Happy Hanukkah, nothing. Just this inane “Happy Holidays” thing. I can just visualize George Carlin saying “Happy Holidays” like he did in his skit about “Have A Nice Day”. I believe each holiday should have its own day(s) and not co-mingled with others just for frenzied shopping for it.


4 posted on 11/26/2011 3:52:59 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: BobL

This from the “Believe it or Not” column, clearly implying “I can’t believe these Jesus Freaks would make such a big deal over this. Get with the multicultural program you outdated retards. God is not cool in the 21st century.”


5 posted on 11/26/2011 3:55:08 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (We be fooked.)
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To: BobL

Bass Pro Shops has been great with their Christmas TV advertising and in store Santa’s Wonderland.

Not sure if they have anything you want, but, they definitely celebrate Christmas at that business.

www.basspro.com


6 posted on 11/26/2011 3:59:28 PM PST by waus (FUBO UFCMF, Just in case I stuttered, FUBO)
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To: BobL

Or short: ExMas.


7 posted on 11/26/2011 4:00:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“This from the “Believe it or Not” column, clearly implying “I can’t believe these Jesus Freaks would make such a big deal over this. Get with the multicultural program you outdated retards. God is not cool in the 21st century.””

Actually, God will be very cool, and very soon. People only have the luxury of ignoring God when their lives are going nice and smooth. The US has $15T of debt, China is arming to the teeth, Iran and North Korea are just about ready to test their nukes on our cites...yes, Americans will become much stronger believers in God, and very soon.


8 posted on 11/26/2011 4:02:36 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: waus

“Bass Pro Shops has been great with their Christmas TV advertising and in store Santa’s Wonderland. Not sure if they have anything you want, but, they definitely celebrate Christmas at that business.”

Yea, I’m more of the Peace-Now mindset, but they’re still certainly worth a visit. Perhaps they’ll have some lentils...LOL.


9 posted on 11/26/2011 4:05:20 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Get with the multicultural program you outdated retards. God is not cool in the 21st century.”

________________________________

actually, insisting on calling Christmas by its correct holiday name IS multicultural.


10 posted on 11/26/2011 4:05:27 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: BobL

I just got a junk mail Pier One catalogue which amazes me. This is the “Merry Gift Giving”season. While the holiday has something to do with snowflakes, fat and elderly white men with long beards, snowmen, the colors red and green, and happy entertaining, there is not one mention of Christmas. On the other hand, having a Happy New Year is perfectly ok.


11 posted on 11/26/2011 4:05:35 PM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: JimSEA

“I just got a junk mail Pier One catalogue which amazes me. This is the “Merry Gift Giving”season. While the holiday has something to do with snowflakes, fat and elderly white men with long beards, snowmen, the colors red and green, and happy entertaining, there is not one mention of Christmas. On the other hand, having a Happy New Year is perfectly ok.”

If the Naughty and Nice guys catch wind of this, they may have to rename themselves to “Pier 2”.


12 posted on 11/26/2011 4:08:35 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: BobL

We’ve always been able to play ball . . . .we’re smarter, make more money, have more assets, are in demand by businesses and municipalities, etc.

We just need to learn to be better street fighters. That’s where we’ve lost. Organize, threaten, boycott. Liberals can’t live without conservatives, they’re incapable to self support.


13 posted on 11/26/2011 4:09:56 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (There's nothing more hypocritical than a white liberal calling someone else a "bigot")
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To: BobL

The Naughty List:

American Eagle Outfitters along with their 77 Kids and Airie
Gap along with their Banana Republic and Athleta
Gamestop aka EB Games
Garmin
J. Crew Outfitters
Old Navy
Piperlime
Plow & Hearth
Polo Ralph Loren
Radio Shack
Sprint
Staples
Tractor Supply Company

Guess I’ll have to find somewhere else to shop for used games and buy my gardening supplies at Walmart.


14 posted on 11/26/2011 4:12:19 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: JimSEA

I don’t know if it has helped, but, about 3 years ago, I started calling the companies who sent me such Christmasless catalogues. In a very reasonable and pleasant tone of voice, I ask them to not insult my holiday and give them a choice of sending me a Christmas catalogue that actually has the word “Christmas” on it or of removing me from their mailing list.

Do it. It doesn’t take long. And you’ll feel so much better.


15 posted on 11/26/2011 4:16:47 PM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: bgill; BobL

Tractor Supply? Is that weird or what?


16 posted on 11/26/2011 4:18:09 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: Silentgypsy

Who would have thought? TSC just lost this customer.


17 posted on 11/26/2011 4:21:50 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: bgill

“Have a good holiday!”

“Which holiday is that?”

For added zing, point out to them that “holiday is derived from holy day!”


18 posted on 11/26/2011 4:30:14 PM PST by relictele (Unions: organized crime with better PR)
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To: BobL
No atheists in the foxhole. Especially when the foxhole is in your front yard, and the enemy is literally at the gate.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

19 posted on 11/26/2011 4:33:38 PM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? http://www.bigdawgmusicmafia.com)
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To: Silentgypsy

“Tractor Supply? Is that weird or what?”

My thought also. Why would an outfit that basically markets to the NASCAR bunch want to get involved with this crap/


20 posted on 11/26/2011 4:33:47 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: bgill

I just got my Cabela’s catalog and the word Christmas is at least twice as large as their name. They have some fun gifts for the hunter world.


21 posted on 11/26/2011 4:33:56 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: wku man

“No atheists in the foxhole.”

That was my point. Faith starts meaning a lot more when life don’t all fall into place.


22 posted on 11/26/2011 4:35:06 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: BobL
One small step for Walgreen's...one giant leap for America.
23 posted on 11/26/2011 4:36:17 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: JimSEA
Thanks for the heads up. I'll make a point not to shop there. Ever.
24 posted on 11/26/2011 4:38:32 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: BobL

Bought some boxed Christmas cards today from Walgreen’s and made sure they said Christmas or were religious in nature.

Even if you’re not Christian or all that religious, face it:
Dec 25 is Christmas. It is not “....holiday”. Don’t take the word away. “Oh, it might offend people.” Guess what: people celebrate Christmas even if they’re not Christian. Even atheists do, exchanging gifts, etc. “Oh, just say Happy Holidays”. Naw, I say Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Happy New Year, there, we’re all covered.

How about if some people were offended by a certain
holiday in January and forced us to take the name out?
That’s right, we’d be pressured to not call it Martin
Luther King Jr Day because some people are offended. How
would that go over? Same thing here. (btw, tick off your
liberal friends and point out that MLK Jr was a member
of the anti-slavery party. He was a registered Republican.)

And if we don’t stick up for the C-word, what happens to these songs?

I’m Dreaming Of A White...Holiday
Rockin’ Around the Holiday Tree
We Need A Little Holiday, Right This Very Minute (from Mame)
It’s Beginning To Look A Lot Like...Holiday.

Don’t laugh, in many schools they change the name to
“Winter Festival” (even Christian churches use the name
“Holiday Festival” when they hold a certain event though who knows, maybe they include Chanukah too) and
non-controversial songs like Jingle Bells get substituted
for those that mention the C-word.

Oh, and here’s one more and how it would sound if the PC Police get ahold of it. Elvis (or Ernest Tubb) if you please.

I’ll, a- have, uh-a, Blue...Holiday...without you.


25 posted on 11/26/2011 4:55:00 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio; All

http://wods.radio.com/

WODS, “Boston’s...holiday...station”

Their competition:

http://www.wror.com/

“Boston’s Favorite Christmas Songs”


26 posted on 11/26/2011 4:58:02 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: BobL

Good news


27 posted on 11/26/2011 4:59:40 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: bgill
Tractor Supply Company"

Ah, yes! The DADDY toy store! We could never drive past one. We always had to stop. LOL!

28 posted on 11/26/2011 5:06:56 PM PST by redhead ("Mongo merely pawn in game of life...")
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To: BobL

Well good for the ones who have made the nice list.

Don’t know how to break it to the naughty ones but, I DON’T buy holiday gifts.


29 posted on 11/26/2011 5:08:07 PM PST by Not gonna take it anymore (Member of the First Church of Christ, I am Catholic)
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To: BobL; All

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Stores to boycott:

77kids – “An American Eagle Outfitters, Inc. brand. Web site: home page “Get Up + Glow” theme. “Holiday Lookbook” guide with subtitle “Makin’ It Bright This Party Season” populates to numerous click-throughs with “Christmas” not mentioned anywhere on site. “Christmas” search produced 0 items. American Eagle traditionally “Christmas” unfriendly.” Contact stores Contact web site

aerie – An American Eagle Outfitters, Inc. brand. Web site: “Merry Aerie Gifts” on home page donned with very skimpy lingerie model. “aerie Wishlist.” “Christmas” search revealed only one brief item (pun intended). Company unusually “Christmas” unfriendly. Contact stores Contact web site

American Eagle Outfitters, Inc. –Naughty for four years over egregious disregard for “Christmas.” Web site: Company profits off colors, sights and symbols of “Christmas” but exclusive of “Christmas.” “Live to Give, Love to Get,” “Holiday Wishlist” and “AE Gift Guide” on home page. Search yielded no “Christmas” items. Entire site purged of “Christmas” references. Contact stores Contact web site

Athleta – A Gap, Inc. brand. Web site: Winter snow theme but does not mention “Christmas.” Search yielded no “Christmas” items. Company does not promote “Christmas” in stores or other advertisements. Contact page

Banana Republic – A Gap, Inc. brand. Web site: use of “Christmas” colors and symbols but no mention of “Christmas.” “A Gifted Holiday” section on home page links to “Celebrate the Season.” “Holiday Looks” link on home page also links to “Celebrate the Season.” Company purged “Christmas” in stores or other advertisements. Contact page

EB Games powered by GameStop – Manager explained in 2010 GameStop’s philosophy that the company supports “ ... many religious holidays such as Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Yule, and other holidays. GameStop does not discriminate against any religion ....” In contrast, “Christmas” is silent and neglected on their home page as well as throughout the site. A “Christmas” search revealed only ten manufacturer-labeled “Christmas” items. Contact web site

Gap – Naughty for six years over flagrant disregard for “Christmas.” Web site: “the GIVE JOY Shopping Event,” “GIFT me” and “Shop Perfect Holiday Presents” on home page. Search revealed only two secular items listed under “Christmas.” Printed ads in popular magazines “I Want Candy.” Company purged “Christmas” in stores or other advertisements. Contact Gap to politely explain why your Christmas dollars are spent at competitors who embrace “Christmas.”

Garmin – Web site: “Garmin Gift Guide” and “holiday gifts” on home page. “Christmas” search revealed 549 links to dated company blog posts on prior years’ advertisements for cash and car promotions. “Christmas” neglected throughout site. Contact page

J. Crew Outfitters – Web site: “The Mini-er The Merrier” on home page. “Gift Guide” link on home page populated “Shop the Very Merry Gift Guide.” “Christmas” search revealed five clothing articles with scant connections to “Christmas.” No other mention of “Christmas.” Although J. Crew uses “Christmas” colors and symbols to profit off “Christmas” shoppers, the company does not appear to promote “Christmas.” Contact email

Old Navy – Old Navy – A Gap, Inc. brand. Web site: “Extended Holiday Store,” and “Gift Guide” tabs on home page populates to “merry mall” and “Holiday Dressy.” “Christmas” search revealed four secular items with no mention of “Christmas.” Company does not promote “Christmas” in stores or in other advertisements. Contact email

Piperlime – A Gap, Inc. brand. Web site: “Let the holiday madness begin” and “Gift Shop” on home page. No mention of “Christmas” anywhere on site. Search redirected to page promoting women’s shoes. Company does not promote “Christmas” in stores or other advertisements. Contact email

Plow & Hearth – Web site: “Holiday Lighting,” “Happy Holidays” and “Gift Registry” are dominant themes on home page. Shoppers must scroll to the very bottom of the web page for a tiny little “Christmas Gifts” site-wide link. “Christmas” search yielded 27 “Christmas” items actually labeled “Christmas.” In contrast, online and printed Catalog “Plow & Hearth Holiday 2011” does not mention “Christmas” until page 19. Liberty Counsel commends Plow & Hearth for their progress toward acknowledgement of “Christmas” in lieu of their 2010 neglect of the “Christmas” Season but the organization still profits from “Christmas” sights, colors and symbols yet marginalizes “Christmas” at best. Contact Plow & Hearth to explain their competitors embrace “Christmas” as the focus of the “Christmas Season.” Contact page

Polo Ralph Lauren – Web site: “Christmas” colors and symbols prominently displayed with “Holiday Favorites” on home page. No mention of “Christmas” anywhere on site. “Christmas” search revealed site’s keyword to 16 non-“Christmas” items. Organization profits off “Christmas” images but omits actual references to “Christmas.” Contact email http://www.ralphlauren.com/helpdesk/index.jsp?display=store&subdisplay=contact&ab=footer_emailus

Radio Shack – Web site: “Holiday Gifts in a Snap.” “Christmas” literally purged on web site, printed and circular ads. TV Commercial: very distasteful with no allusion to “Christmas.” Contact page

Sprint – Web site: “Christmas” does not exist at Sprint. “Christmas” search revealed blog comments relative to customer care and holiday hours. Contact email page

Staples – Web site: “Holiday Center” ” on home page. Search for “Christmas” redirects to “Holiday Center” that populates “Amazing Holiday Deals” and encouragement to “Send Holiday Cheer.” “Merry Christmas” cards labeled “Holiday Cards.” “Christmas” unfriendly. Contact page

Tractor Supply Company – Web site: “Holiday Shipping” and “Christmas” décor but no mention of “Christmas” on home page “Deck the Stalls” and “Holiday” themed gift card. “Christmas” search revealed manufacturer-labeled “Christmas” items. Contact email


30 posted on 11/26/2011 5:26:42 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08

Thanks for that list. Also surprised about Tractor Supply.


31 posted on 11/26/2011 5:39:20 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: stevio

You’re welcome. :)


32 posted on 11/26/2011 5:44:05 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: All

Major League Baseball sends out “Holiday 2011” merchandise brochures. Mine went immediately to the trash.


33 posted on 11/26/2011 5:50:47 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Silentgypsy

“Tractor Supply?”
Laundering all that drug money requires that every market be utilized.
Rust never sleeps.


34 posted on 11/26/2011 5:51:24 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: stevio
Thanks for that list. Also surprised about Tractor Supply.

I just went on to Tractor Supply's website, and I think LC may have gotten it wrong, or at least jumped the gun. Their website still has a big "Thanksgiving Sale" theme. I don't think it's fair to label them as anti-Christmas because they haven't gotten around to Christmas advertising yet. It's still November, after all.

35 posted on 11/26/2011 6:18:17 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: BobL

I won’t be buying much this year. not because of finances, but because I’d rather 0failure and crew fail even harder

meanwhile, to fix the country... we need people that start talking about realistic spending levels. basic math gives the answer:

previous_year_tax_revenues - interest_on_debt = $2 trillion - 5% * $15 trillion = $1.25 trillion

any spending above $1.25 trillion means the debt will continue to rise. considering they’ve been spending $5 trillion for the last 2 years, and they can’t get $150 billion in cuts... the debt will continue to rise. until... 0bamacare goes into effect in 14 months... adding an additional $2 trillion in federal spending per year

without moving back to these spending levels, the country is done


36 posted on 11/26/2011 7:09:44 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: BobL

Good for the American Family Association. What is The Liberty Council?


37 posted on 11/26/2011 7:45:04 PM PST by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012

“Good for the American Family Association. What is The Liberty Council?”

You got me...but I do remember someone posting this info every Christmas. Likely it was the Liberty Council.


38 posted on 11/26/2011 7:49:53 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: BobL

If it’s true as one member here asserted a couple of hours ago that there are over 30 million illegals in this country (and every assertion I read on FR must be true, because if I dare to question it, they’ll call me stupid!), and most of the 30 million, we all know, are Catholic from South of the border, than this change among the retailers may be a nod toward them as a significant force in the society. Thank God for the illegals then.


39 posted on 11/26/2011 7:56:34 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: relictele

“Which holiday is that?”

I do that often. It’s fun to see the puzzled looks.


40 posted on 12/06/2011 9:27:10 AM PST by jjm2111
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