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Bernie Fine fired by Syracuse
Espn.com ^ | 27 November 2011 | Staff

Posted on 11/27/2011 5:07:07 PM PST by bjorn14

Syracuse University associate head basketball coach Bernie Fine was fired Sunday in the wake of an investigation of child molestation allegations against him.

In statement released Sunday night, Kevin Quinn, the school's senior vice president for public affairs, says Fine has been "terminated, effective immediately.

The move came at the direction of Chancellor Nancy Cantor.

The 65-year-old Fine was in his 36th season at his alma mater. He had the longest active streak of consecutive seasons at one school among assistant coaches in Division I.

Fine's firing comes in the wake of new revelations Sunday, including a third accuser.

Two former Syracuse ball boys were the first to accuse Fine, who has called the allegations "patently false."

(Excerpt) Read more at espn.go.com ...


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1 posted on 11/27/2011 5:07:13 PM PST by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

Not Fine any more!


2 posted on 11/27/2011 5:09:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: bjorn14

Hey Bernie...your firing is patently true. Sounds like you and Sandusky should share a cell (only if you’re convicted in a court of law).


3 posted on 11/27/2011 5:13:11 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: bjorn14

Here’s his wife admitting that she knew Bernie was doing boys.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7286347/otl-audio-tape-syracuse-orange-assistant-bernie-fine-wife-admits-worries-abuse


4 posted on 11/27/2011 5:16:06 PM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bjorn14

Yeah...I read the whole article at the link. Doesn’t sound like there’s much doubt. Very queer.


5 posted on 11/27/2011 5:21:28 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: bjorn14
His wife is at fault because surely she should have turned him in. The homo cannot possibly be at fault.

This is the new PC. Everyone is guilty of not stopping the homo pervert except the homo himself who out and about.

6 posted on 11/27/2011 5:22:57 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: bjorn14

And, she was also doing one of them.


7 posted on 11/27/2011 5:24:28 PM PST by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: bjorn14

I found his denials far more credible than Sandusky’s and some of his accusers have their own veracity issues but where there’s enough smoke, there’s probably fire which is too bad. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.


8 posted on 11/27/2011 5:27:24 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: bjorn14

Boeheim said he’s known Fine for 50 years and implied he never saw anything inappropriate. Only slightly more believable than Joe Paterno; at least for now. I will not be surprised if people come forward and say that they told Boeheim what was happening.


9 posted on 11/27/2011 5:28:18 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

He never SAW anything, but did he HEAR of anything.


10 posted on 11/27/2011 5:33:39 PM PST by biggredd1
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To: bjorn14

Didn’t his boss call the alleged victims ‘liars’? If so, he needs to go as well.


11 posted on 11/27/2011 5:34:24 PM PST by PAR35
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To: bjorn14

When the coach starts becoming the schools god, he needs to retire.


12 posted on 11/27/2011 5:41:08 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: bjorn14
The new symbol of college sports:


13 posted on 11/27/2011 5:41:22 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Pharmboy

I heard the statute of limitations has run out on anything pending against fine.


14 posted on 11/27/2011 5:42:34 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: PAR35
Didn’t his boss call the alleged victims ‘liars’? If so, he needs to go as well.

Either Jim Boeheim is loyal to a fault or he is complicit in a coverup.

Will another Hall of Fame college coach bite the dust?

15 posted on 11/27/2011 5:44:46 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: BunnySlippers

Interesting...I added that remark to avoid all the posters who inevitable add:”Innocent until proven guilty!” BUT, let’s see if any more little boys come forward that are within the SoL...


16 posted on 11/27/2011 5:49:37 PM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must...)
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To: Pharmboy; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Yaelle; socialismisinsidious; bjorn14; Eleutheria5; Jewbacca; ...
Very queer.

In more ways than one!

Seems as if even left-leaning college administrators are starting to have second thoughts about the excesses of "gay-friendly" atmospheres on their campuses.

17 posted on 11/27/2011 5:53:19 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: bjorn14
Bernie Fine looks like Barny Fag...
18 posted on 11/27/2011 5:56:21 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: bjorn14

Thanks for the link.

Listened to the tape and couldn’t help concluding that just about everybody involved in that tape is totally f’d up.

The wife talked about Fine’s tastes in boys the same way a normal person would describe their spouse’s taste in pizza. And then she admits bonking this Davis kid at some point in the whole decade-long travesty.

And what the heck is this guy Davis doing hanging out with Fine, even when he (Davis) was well into his 20’s? I can see a kid getting taken advantage of by some perv while a young boy or early teen, but for crying out loud, by the time he’s 22 or so, he should have enough sense to avoid the jerk, especially if, as he implies, Fine’s advances were unwanted.

If this stuff is true, Fine is a total scumbag, but his wife and this guy Davis are pretty messed up too.


19 posted on 11/27/2011 5:56:39 PM PST by Stosh
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To: org.whodat

That will clear the Division 1-A coaching ranks pretty quickly.


20 posted on 11/27/2011 5:58:12 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: bjorn14

Is this another Sandusky? Too early to tell. If so, how many years was he allowed to skate?


21 posted on 11/27/2011 6:00:36 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bjorn14

Liberals and homosexuals run sports today.


22 posted on 11/27/2011 6:02:52 PM PST by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: buccaneer81

I was looking for the link, from were the Arkansas pigs were 14 up on LSU the other day, when I told them that LSU was just pulling a little pig tail and they would start frying bacon shortly. Boy did they ever fry the bacon.


23 posted on 11/27/2011 6:03:35 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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To: bmwcyle

I came to that conclusion years ago and people wonder why I would be perfectly happy if all sports went dark forever.


24 posted on 11/27/2011 6:05:31 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: wally_bert

The country would be better without bread and circus.


25 posted on 11/27/2011 6:08:38 PM PST by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: org.whodat

I knew the second half was going to be a clinic, and it sure was. Bobby Petrino was a sore loser, IMHO.


26 posted on 11/27/2011 6:09:35 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: bmwcyle
The country would be better without bread and circus.

The liberal, brain dead variety, yes. If we could eliminate reality TV, gossip TV, court TV shows and get sports back to the place they inhabited in the '60s and '70s it would be beneficial.

27 posted on 11/27/2011 6:13:43 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: BunnySlippers

New York minors - 3 years from date of 18th birthday (excluding wrongful death cases) (All I could find on it).

I’ve read that some states have eliminated the statute of limitations for child molestation and others have greatly extended it.


28 posted on 11/27/2011 6:13:55 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: wally_bert

There’s still one sport that’s sane as far as behavior of fans and players, in college, the minors and the Pros...hockey.


29 posted on 11/27/2011 6:16:42 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Graybeard58; BunnySlippers
I’ve read that some states have eliminated the statute of limitations for child molestation and others have greatly extended it.

Pennsylvania is one, which is why Sandusky is thankfully going to prison.

30 posted on 11/27/2011 6:18:34 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: bjorn14

Is this the new era of homosexual predators/paedophilia?


31 posted on 11/27/2011 6:21:44 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: bmwcyle

Cut out the 24/7 sports and beer and watch society unravel.


32 posted on 11/27/2011 6:21:44 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: bjorn14
Just put me on record as still being highly skeptical of this kid, his stepbrother, and this wife. Something just doesn't smell right and the way the tape is presented sounds ... not like the slam dunk it's supposed to be.

Also, ESPN has had at least three sex scandals that I know about, they're totally MSM mob journalism (Tebo hatred required), and ESPN’s Doug Gottlieb has had a long running, ugly feud with Jim Boeheim.

I'd advise caution before going Nancy Grace on this guy.

33 posted on 11/27/2011 6:33:04 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments
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To: wally_bert
I would be perfectly happy if all sports went dark forever.

I agree.

34 posted on 11/27/2011 6:38:35 PM PST by Octar
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To: FreeReign

It’s one thing to defend your friends. It’s another to attack an innocent.


35 posted on 11/27/2011 6:39:22 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Stosh

“...his wife and this guy Davis are pretty messed up too.”

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I didn’t listen to the tape I just read the article.


36 posted on 11/27/2011 6:39:45 PM PST by jocon307
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To: bjorn14

It’s been well known for a long time that coaches have a lot of power with local governments and they use it to minimize or eliminate punishments to their players that get in trouble (felonies become misdemeanors, jail time becomes no-show community service, sexually assaulted girls get scholarships and new cars to shut up and go away, etc.).

It shouldn’t come as any surprise that the coaches also use money and power-relationships to grease the skids for their sleazy little hobbies, too.


37 posted on 11/27/2011 6:45:20 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Graybeard58

Thank heavens!


38 posted on 11/27/2011 6:47:29 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Octar

I used to work in Public TV and spent a decade or so. There were the big sports guys who made the big weekend bucks and were and still probably very liberal. They of course, would only include their liberal friends and pet favorites. The rest of us who did actual work around there and tried to move up or get in anywhere else got nowhere.

The only sports the normal people got to experience was ETV Sports which involved certain good freelance buddies getting hired and the rest of us getting our little regular pay working weekends out of town. Never a compliment or even acknowlegement. It won’t bother me a bit to see Nikki close the doors on once an OK place to work.


39 posted on 11/27/2011 6:50:06 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Stosh

I don’t know. The wife sounds like one hard character who wasn’t having any kind of sex with her husband. It was just a marriage of convenience at this point. She might have just agreed with this kid because she hated her husband so much. I mean, how could any real human being be so blasé about a child being abused.


40 posted on 11/27/2011 6:58:10 PM PST by Krankor
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To: bjorn14

That was incredibly damning. Heard about it yesterday. Wow.


41 posted on 11/27/2011 6:59:24 PM PST by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: bjorn14

I love sports, but they are unfortunately a great hunting ground for pedophiles. Coaches have an almost god-like influence over kids, and often have significant access to them when parents aren’t around or when parents are too heavily involved in a talented child’s career prospects to wake up and smell the coffee. Anyone who wants to coach at any level should pass a bg check and have to pass a psych profile.

Sheldon Kennedy, a hockey player who was abused by a coach throughout his teen years, is one of the major proponents of reform in the world of coaching.


42 posted on 11/27/2011 7:17:27 PM PST by alphadoggie
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To: Krankor

That wife is one cruel, sick excuse of a human being. To allow the raping of boys by her husband for what? Convenience?


43 posted on 11/27/2011 7:30:28 PM PST by tioga
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Are you suggesting that SU jumped the gun and fired him for no reason? I suspect they gave it more due diligence than that.


44 posted on 11/27/2011 7:32:05 PM PST by tioga
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To: buccaneer81

“There’s still one sport that’s sane as far as behavior of fans and players, in college, the minors and the Pros...hockey.”

Gotta agree that hockey is (at least relatively) an improvement over most of the other big-time sports. And to me, that’s pretty amazing - I can remember back to the “Broad Street Bullies” days of the Philadelphia Flyers, when pro hockey was pretty much the WWF on ice skates, and after that, I pretty much quit following it for several decades.

And then when the Blackhawks made their run for the Cup two years back, I started watching again, and couldn’t believe how beautifully-played the game had become, especially at the playoff-level.

I love to point out the contrast to soccer, which is essentially the same game (put an object past a keeper into a net) - you can get more action in less than a minute of a good hockey game than you see in a whole damn soccer match. (Although I will admit at least in this country soccer is still relatively clean, which isn’t too tough to arrange when hardly anybody watches it).


45 posted on 11/27/2011 7:34:53 PM PST by Stosh
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To: John W

She waited until the boy was 18 though.


46 posted on 11/27/2011 7:38:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Pharmboy

He looks kinda like Bawney Fwank.


47 posted on 11/27/2011 7:44:50 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: wally_bert

So all boys should suffer because a few perverts act out?

Sports programs are wonderful. It’s the perverts who suck.. Excuse the pun. What you said is the same argument gun control activists use. Shame on you.


48 posted on 11/27/2011 7:48:06 PM PST by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesH)
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To: buccaneer81

“That will clear the Division 1-A coaching ranks pretty quickly.”


I quit watching (except hockey) Division 1 sports long ago. Just filled with too much corruption. Players bribed, grades fixed, coaches are gods, etc. Now I just watch Division 2 and 3 sports. Much more entertaining and enjoyable.


49 posted on 11/27/2011 7:48:41 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Stosh

The big thing is that hockey players rarely have any of the off ice (or off field) issues we see in other sports. Aside from Bob Probert and Theo Fleury, I’m hard pressed to find any hockey criminals in the past 20 years.


50 posted on 11/27/2011 7:52:05 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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