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Saturn Devouring His Son - famous painting by Goya
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Posted on 11/27/2011 7:47:44 PM PST by EveningStar

"Saturn Devouring His Son is the name given to a painting by Spanish artist Francisco Goya. It depicts the Greek myth of the Titan Cronus (in the title Romanised to Saturn), who, fearing that he would be overthrown by his children, ate each one upon their birth."

My wife and I saw the real canvas transfer of the painting by Goya (1746-1828) in the Museo del Prado in Madrid several years ago.

I do know how to hotlink graphics, however this painting is highly disturbing, and possibly the product of a disturbed mind.

Click the reference links below to view the painting and read about it.

This is not for everyone. Discretionary viewer participation is recommended.

Wikipedia (additional links here)

The Black Paintings: Saturn


TOPICS: Arts/Photography
KEYWORDS: cronus; goya; madrid; museodelprado; painting; saturn; spain

1 posted on 11/27/2011 7:47:54 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Borges

ping


2 posted on 11/27/2011 7:48:38 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

ping to self


3 posted on 11/27/2011 7:58:16 PM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: EveningStar

It is bizarre, I agree.

You know SOMEONE will be posting the graphic up, but I agree with your reasoning not to.


4 posted on 11/27/2011 7:59:16 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012 -- the man we need at the time we need him)
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To: EveningStar

I wouldn’t say disturbed, as much as it it simply honest.

That is what the mythos teach, that being Chronos or Saturn ate his children to prevent them from overthrowing him.

The reality is probably different, such as Saturn throwing his children into some deep dungeon aeons ago.


5 posted on 11/27/2011 8:00:35 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: EveningStar

cannibalism is a lovely thing.... heh


6 posted on 11/27/2011 8:03:16 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jonty30

It’s a metaphor obviously. Like how a tyrant kills the opposition to keep their throne.


7 posted on 11/27/2011 8:04:40 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Jonty30

Check the “Background” section of the Wikipedia article.


8 posted on 11/27/2011 8:10:52 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Jonty30

I remember this painting from Art History in college long time ago.


9 posted on 11/27/2011 8:13:25 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: EveningStar

Look up some of Goya’s Disasters of War etchings. Several of the soldiers depicted look a lot like Saturn in this. Specifically one with a Russian type hat (I assume it is a French soldier considering what was going on then).


10 posted on 11/27/2011 8:15:50 PM PST by mnehring
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To: EveningStar

“Old Men Eating” is somewhat sick as well. Actually all labeled “Dark Paintings” make me thankful Goya isn’t living next door.


11 posted on 11/27/2011 8:16:09 PM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t think he was insane, per se.

Moody, definite, but still in control of his senses.


12 posted on 11/27/2011 8:17:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: GeronL
I guess even those we call the "old masters" in art did crap. I don't call that art...its grotesque..

I cannot believe I spelled grotesgue right...it passed spell check...:O)

13 posted on 11/27/2011 8:18:20 PM PST by goat granny
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To: goat granny

You spelled it right the first time anyways. Even the description sounds gross.


14 posted on 11/27/2011 8:21:47 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL

OOPs every time I try to pat my self on the back I get a cramp in my arm....didn’t spell check the second remark...now I am sad.....:O( gg


15 posted on 11/27/2011 8:43:24 PM PST by goat granny
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To: EveningStar
A lot of these artists had mental health issues late in their careers due to heavy metal toxicity from the paints they used.
Van Gogh was another one.
16 posted on 11/27/2011 8:43:31 PM PST by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: EveningStar

Are you an Islamaphobe, EveningStar?


17 posted on 11/27/2011 8:48:37 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: this_ol_patriot
Van Gogh was another one.

Not to mention the absinthe he drank by the gallon.

18 posted on 11/27/2011 8:51:24 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: goat granny
It's not nearly as disturbing as Ruben's depiction of the same scene.

Here, have this:

Mad Cow / vaca loca
19 posted on 11/27/2011 8:52:38 PM PST by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: SaraJohnson

No. Why?


20 posted on 11/27/2011 8:52:52 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Looked kinda like a picture of allah biting off the head of a woman.


21 posted on 11/27/2011 8:58:47 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: EveningStar
Went to a Goya exhibit in Boston about 20 years ago. He was depressing.
22 posted on 11/27/2011 9:04:44 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!


23 posted on 11/27/2011 9:14:43 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: ponygirl
Is absinthe (alcohol issues aside) really debilitating? I've heard that
it gained the negative reputation because the French wine
industry suffered some major crop failures, and returning
veterans, used to drinking absinthe because of the dearth of
wine abroad, introduced it to the the general public at large as a
substitute for wine.

Once the vineyards started recovering, they waged a negative
marketing campaign on the usurping beverage, that included
lobbying for laws against the stuff.

24 posted on 11/27/2011 9:18:45 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: EveningStar

I don’t really see your point in posting this. I didn’t look at it and why would I want to?


25 posted on 11/27/2011 9:20:36 PM PST by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God...There I said it.)
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To: Mountain Mary
Cannibalistic madness is an appropriate and timely icon depicting the actions of political authority against the citizens it represents. Most assuredly government elites are cannibalizing the culture.
26 posted on 11/27/2011 9:44:43 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Government must be taken back from the thieves who have stolen it.)
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To: GeronL

No, not a metaphor. Children were ritually sacrificed in ancient times as surrogates for the king...see The Golden Bough, The White Goddess.
I’ve seen the painting many timed, growing up...for some reason it didn’t upset me then, but it does now.


27 posted on 11/27/2011 10:15:45 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: goat granny
Being grotesque doesn't negate its artistic merit - I'd rate it as one of the hundred greatest paintings of all time, one of the precursors to modernism, even marking the threshold to modernism. The grotesquerie is what makes it art.
28 posted on 11/27/2011 10:22:17 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: EveningStar

Supposedly Goya had the painting hanging in the dining room of his home. Perhaps that’s only apocryphal, or perhaps he really didn’t like having guests over for dinner.


29 posted on 11/27/2011 10:31:29 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: EveningStar

Goya is quite an interesting artist. He painted portraits of the elite. Then during a Spanish civil war, his paintings became very disturbing - depicting atrocities of war in an almost cartoonish manner. I remember several of empalements that I saw in Spain. Paintings by a man who appears to have been plunged into the hell of a very nasty war. He later paintings show raw emotion. Such a contrast from the detail and control of his earlier courtly works.


30 posted on 11/27/2011 11:30:32 PM PST by marsh2
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To: EveningStar

I never felt the painting corresponded to the myth, because Saturn’s children were the Roman gods such as Neptune and Demeter- they were immortals, and later escaped when Jupiter (the sixth son) forced his father to vomit them up.


31 posted on 11/27/2011 11:35:45 PM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Calvin Locke
You could be right. I always thought original absinthe contained opium and had read that it could have contributed to Van Gogh's mental problems. But after I posted that, I went and looked it up. Real absinthe is supposed to contain wormwood. I think the bad rap it got came from negative publicity during Prohibition, but there was also something I saw about some absinthe distillers cutting corners and adding a form of copper to the drink to give it that verdigris color, which could have caused health problems. It's like that old phrase "Mad as a hatter," which came about from a very common psychosis that was prevalent among the workers in the hat manufacturing industry. The glue they were using contained mercury and they breathed in those fumes all day long.

I personally think they should start allowing absinthe in the US again. (The real stuff; not the fake absinthe they are selling now.) The art they created while drinking that stuff was extraordinary. Not like the nightmare "art" that heroin has given the art world. (Makes you wonder if Goya was into that!)

32 posted on 11/28/2011 7:35:32 AM PST by ponygirl
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To: kabumpo

Glad you like it. Its not a picture I would return to a museum to study or admire. Prefer a different kind of art.


33 posted on 11/28/2011 8:32:50 AM PST by goat granny
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

Now that is real art.....:O) but its a cow not a bull..GG


34 posted on 11/28/2011 8:37:35 AM PST by goat granny
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To: Mountain Mary
I don’t really see your point in posting this.

I read about it and found it to be interesting. I thought others might find it interesting too.

I didn’t look at it and why would I want to?

Some might want to look at it. Some might not want to look at it. I posted a warning that it was not for everyone - remember?

35 posted on 11/28/2011 10:39:21 AM PST by EveningStar
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