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High School Student Fights Bachmann on Gay Marriage Stance at Town Hall Meeting
The Blaze ^ | 12-01-11 | Tiffany Gabbay

Posted on 12/01/2011 2:28:58 PM PST by Lazlo in PA

A cozy town hall meeting with Michele Bachmann at the Waverly Pizza Ranch in Iowa took a twist Wednesday when a student questioned the GOP presidential contender’s views on same-sex marriage and of what she would do for the gay and lesbian community as president.

“All of us as Americans have the same rights, we have the same civil rights,” Bachmann told 16-year-old Jane Schmidt, who identified herself as a member of the school’s GSA, the alliance advocating for the rights of gay and straight students.

“There shouldn’t be any special rights or any special set of criteria,” Bachmann continued. “We all have the same civil rights. ”

But that didn’t sit well with the student, who said that members of the gay and lesbian community do not have the same rights because they can’t get married.

In response, Bachmann said, “There are no special rights for people based upon your sex practices.”

“There’s no special rights based upon what you do in your sex life. You’re an American citizen first and foremost and that’s it.”

Bachmann reiterated that marriage is between a “man and a woman” and that it is still “the law of the land.”

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KEYWORDS: 2012; bachmann; brainwashedteenager; culturalmarxism; gayagenda; homonaziagenda; homonaziteenager; homosexualagenda; michelebachmann; pederastagenda; specialrights
Bachmann schools some young leftists about what the role of Gov't is. Very worth the listen.

Video at link. Michelle is on fire.

1 posted on 12/01/2011 2:29:02 PM PST by Lazlo in PA
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To: Lazlo in PA

She was great in that video.


2 posted on 12/01/2011 2:36:47 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“There are no special rights for people based upon your sex practices.”......yet


3 posted on 12/01/2011 2:39:24 PM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Kinda scary that young kids are leftist, mush head ideologues. Bachmann response that man-woman marriage was the law of the land was woefully inadequate. That’s what the debate is all about, and the law of the land may well be changed. Marriage is between a man and a woman. period. Doesn’t matter what law of the land is. Majority votes or minority pressure does not change eternal truths.


4 posted on 12/01/2011 2:40:37 PM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: linn37

Tell me about it. I can’t wait till we have to carve out special rights for bondage freaks. That will be swell.


5 posted on 12/01/2011 2:41:30 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

I admire her calm, cool, reasoned responses. Michelle did great.


6 posted on 12/01/2011 2:43:46 PM PST by Faith
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To: linn37

Actually lots of states have sex preference laws.

Oh btw because this high school student didn’t agree with Bachman, I think we should have gay marriage. /s


7 posted on 12/01/2011 2:47:04 PM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Lazlo in PA

90% probability that good ol' Jane was molested before she joined the club.

8 posted on 12/01/2011 2:48:13 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: all the best

no society can survive based on a “no child producing” marriage mandate. Homosexuals contribution nothing to society’s future via their recreational sex.


9 posted on 12/01/2011 2:48:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: trisham

Damn...that was very, very good. Interesting to note that when I was younger; the subject of ‘gay’ NEVER came up in school. Now look at our children...the communists rule our public schools with an iron fist.


10 posted on 12/01/2011 2:49:46 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
“There’s no special rights based upon what you do in your sex life. You’re an American citizen first and foremost and that’s it.”

Good and accurate answer.
11 posted on 12/01/2011 2:52:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Jane Schmit or whatever can’t vote and there is a damn good reason 16 year olds can’t vote. Were it not for 18 year olds going to war they shouldn’t vote either. Neither should anyone who doesn’t pay taxes. That is the way it started out and that is the way it should have stayed and for damn good reasons.

Jane needs to sit down and STFU.


12 posted on 12/01/2011 2:55:58 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: who knows what evil?
when I was younger; the subject of ‘gay’ NEVER came up in school. Now look at our children...the communists rule our public schools with an iron fist.

They really started pushing it with sex ed when I was in middle school in the late 70s.

Its really pretty insidious how they do it too. Young teens are at their most impressionable and that's when they used to start with its "normal" to be gay. Basically they start insinuating that teens aren't normal if they don't have gay thoughts at an age when most kids want to be normal and fit in.

I'm incredibly lucky to have grown up in a conservative rural town where that crap simply didn't take.
13 posted on 12/01/2011 2:58:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

She did good. Just wish she would stop throwing darts at the others when they’re down.

I wish the GOP contenders would tie the First Amendment to so-called “homosexual” rights and how Americans would lose that right if we continue to allow so-called “homosexual-rights” to be law in any state.


14 posted on 12/01/2011 3:04:56 PM PST by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: Lazlo in PA
I would have been a bit more blunt.

Why in the hell should two males have special rights because they _______ each others _________?

Why in the hell should two females have special rights because they _______ each others ________?

15 posted on 12/01/2011 3:05:55 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: cripplecreek
Interesting how Bachmann's video and Adam Carolla's rant at the 'Blaze' BOTH have their roots in the establishment of the Department of Education under Jimmy Carter.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

16 posted on 12/01/2011 3:06:54 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Sequoyah101

In NYS 18-21 year olds *whose mothers are still receiving “child” support payments on their behalf* are allowed to vote. Matriarchy support, errrr, I mean “child” support is mandatory through 21 and beyond.

So basically children can vote in NYS.


17 posted on 12/01/2011 3:16:13 PM PST by AbolishCSEU (Percentage of Income in CS is inversely proportionate to Mother's parenting of children)
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To: Lazlo in PA
"What are you going to do for meeeeeeeee..?" Whiiiiiiiinnnnne...

This is the SAME 'entitlement' mentality Adam Carolla was ragging about...thanks, "teachers".

18 posted on 12/01/2011 3:21:54 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Basically they start insinuating that teens aren’t normal if they don’t have gay thoughts at an age when most kids want to be normal and fit in.

I’m incredibly lucky to have grown up in a conservative rural town where that crap simply didn’t take.”

Because otherwise you would have grown up to be gay?


19 posted on 12/01/2011 3:22:28 PM PST by juno67 (a)
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To: longtermmemmory

****no society can survive based on a “no child producing” marriage mandate****

If only.

Sadly, the lesbians use IVF or adopt boys and change them into girls; while the gay men/pedophiles rent wombs and/or adopt boys.

All because they have a civil right to do so...married or not.


20 posted on 12/01/2011 3:23:58 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newter the Democrats - top to bottom.)
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To: juno67
Because otherwise you would have grown up to be gay?

Hardly. We rural kids learned to think for ourselves at an early age and weren't easily manipulated.
21 posted on 12/01/2011 3:32:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: cripplecreek

“We rural kids learned to think for ourselves at an early age and weren’t easily manipulated.”

From what I remember about growing up, nobody had to teach me or my friends to be heterosexual, and nobody could have taught us to be gay, and I didn’t grow up in a rural community. I suspect there’s more to being gay than what you’re taught at school.

The fact that the numbers seem to be increasing could be because they are now not so afraid to come out of the closet, or perhaps it has to do with plastics or contaminants in the food/water supply which impede normal fetal development.


22 posted on 12/01/2011 3:42:35 PM PST by juno67 (a)
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To: Lazlo in PA

bfl


23 posted on 12/01/2011 3:46:32 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Lazlo in PA.


24 posted on 12/01/2011 3:57:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Lazlo in PA

She is STILL my first choice. She is SMOKING conservatively speaking....


25 posted on 12/01/2011 4:03:09 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Lazlo in PA

For those who argue that no one has the right to deny consenting same-sex adults the right to marry because it’s an outmoded moral value that has no basis in law, then there’s no right to outlaw incest, polygamy, or bestiality. All can be justified using the logic of the people who support same-sex marriage.


26 posted on 12/01/2011 4:21:22 PM PST by driftless2
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To: juno67
From what I remember about growing up, nobody had to teach me or my friends to be heterosexual, and nobody could have taught us to be gay, and I didn’t grow up in a rural community.

Surely you are NOT suggesting that young minds are not easily impressed and corrupted? There are volumes of proof that kids are EXTREMELY malleable in a variety of subjects, up to and including KILLING! So, why would these easily misled youths not be convinced that homosexuality is an acceptable way of life?
27 posted on 12/01/2011 4:32:29 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: driftless2

BTTT! I agree completely!

But, let’s be sure to counter-attack their arguments with more than just the moral argument.

The idea behind giving government or business benefits to a heterosexual couple is that they can create life (all on their own accord) to grow and develop a cohesive society. Homosexual couples offer NOTHING to the development and growth of society, safe with the help of someone else! There is absolutely no way around that argument!


28 posted on 12/01/2011 4:39:34 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine
..safe SAVE with the help of someone else!
29 posted on 12/01/2011 4:41:36 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine
Surely you are NOT suggesting that young minds are not easily impressed and corrupted? There are volumes of proof that kids are EXTREMELY malleable in a variety of subjects, up to and including KILLING! So, why would these easily misled youths not be convinced that homosexuality is an acceptable way of life?

young minds are indeed malleable, I can remember, growing up, that many of my male friends were indeed cute or even handsome. However I also remember the cutest, sweetest girls in the world....pinafores, puffy skirts, mary-jane patent leather shoes, curly blonde locks, shy smiles......and as handsome as little freddy was, he didn't have a chance!!!!!

30 posted on 12/01/2011 6:57:06 PM PST by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: Lazlo in PA
She gave a good compact answer. She got the logic of why heterosexual-only marriage doesn't violate anyone's rights out there but didn't get bogged down in it. She gave the girls enough that they can go home and think it through. If they make a serious effort to do that (yeah, I know, unlikely, but still), they'll see that she's right. It's a tricky issue because the left has done a good job of getting it into people's heads that sexuality is equal to race as far as rights go. Which is of course false, since society experiences one as an action or behavior (i.e. something you do) while the other is strictly a property of the body (something you are).
31 posted on 12/01/2011 7:46:20 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: who knows what evil?
Now look at our children...the communists rule our public schools with an iron fist.

Or a latex one.

32 posted on 12/01/2011 8:47:06 PM PST by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: ExTxMarine

“Surely you are NOT suggesting that young minds are not easily impressed and corrupted? There are volumes of proof that kids are EXTREMELY malleable in a variety of subjects, up to and including KILLING! So, why would these easily misled youths not be convinced that homosexuality is an acceptable way of life?”

I think what I said was pretty clear-—that no amount of misleading information from my school was going to convince me or anyone of my friends to be attracted to members of the same sex. Do you think that you could have been swayed in that direction? I doubt it. Now as far as making these youngsters more tolerant of those that are gay, I think you are right, they could be swayed in that direction.


33 posted on 12/02/2011 2:07:27 AM PST by juno67 (a)
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To: fwdude

Latex? I may have to borrow that one...


34 posted on 12/02/2011 3:00:58 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: juno67
I think what I said was pretty clear-—that no amount of misleading information from my school was going to convince me or anyone of my friends to be attracted to members of the same sex.

So you are saying that those young kids who have been convinced to kill (other students, their parents, wives of their lovers, etc...) were BORN with a proclivity to MURDER?

As you stated in your "pretty clear" post, "I suspect there’s more to being gay than what you’re taught at school." So, you think there is more to being a murderer than what these young kids were taught or convinced to do? Your argument suggests that society shouldn't be against murder and murderers either; I mean after all, it was "natural" for those people to want to kill - just as it is somehow "natural" to today's youth to be homosexual.
35 posted on 12/02/2011 3:33:37 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: juno67
Do you think that you could have been swayed in that direction?

No, but I was never a follower on blind faith in others, as I am pretty certain you and your group of friends weren't either. And the homosexuals, who absolutely PREY on the youth, are looking for those who are easily lead into their bedroom.

Question for you: Were you a member of a street gang in your youth? I mean, street gangs have been around for centuries! Of course, there are more street gangs today and more kids are in street gangs today than ever before. Is that because the kids today have some new, natural reflex to join a gang? Or is it because gangs are more popular within their own age-group than in past decades? My point is that once something becomes popular and accepted by malleable minds, they will simply go along to get along in order to fit in with a group of youths their age or their mindset. That includes committing crimes, having sex, and I believe "trying" homosexual sex, which they otherwise would not do on their own.

Now, I was never in a gang, and I suspect that you were never in a gang. But, that does not change the facts as I stated them above.
36 posted on 12/02/2011 3:50:54 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Lazlo in PA

If anybody knows that a gay man has the same right to marry a woman that anybody else does, it’s Michelle Bachmann.


37 posted on 12/02/2011 7:48:54 AM PST by Retro Llama
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To: longtermmemmory

I heard that a town on the Cape which is a homosexual enclave only had one child born one year.


38 posted on 12/03/2011 5:04:40 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cripplecreek

This homosexuality is normal began with the Kinsey Report in the 1940’s. This report was done by a perverted guy who interviewed sex offenders and included child abusers in his study. This was the foundation of the modern sex education that is now prominent in our schools. The sex education group SIECUS also came from this study. I guess if you have a PHD after you name it excuses you from being a pervert.


39 posted on 12/03/2011 5:19:42 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: juno67

Plastics have been around for sixty years. Is it a coincidence that there seems to be a growing number of homosexuals since the gay movement became so in-your-face in the seventies? They are playing with us. They are recruiting right under our noses. There is much about human psychology that we do not understand.


40 posted on 12/03/2011 5:30:21 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: ExTxMarine

I agree that children are malleable, that is why parents are told to bring them up in the care and admonition of the Lord. Consider how whole societies have fallen into deprave behaviors like human sacrifce and canabalism. We have to guard our hearts and minds.


41 posted on 12/03/2011 5:38:27 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Yardstick

The homosexuals have put words in the kids mouths at these gay alliance clubs. They give them the *talking points* that slick, educated public relations people put together. This gives them an advantage in any discussion with other kids, even adults.


42 posted on 12/03/2011 5:47:56 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: ExTxMarine

A great change in behavior that has occured in this country is the widespread use of drugs. When I was in highschool in the mid-sixties there were no drugs in the great majority of schools. It was something that was considered fringe behavior and I knew no one who used drugs. Now almost everyone has someone in their extended family that uses drugs. The abnormal became normal.

Consider abortion. I never heard of anyone having an abortion now abortion has reached 50 million. When the Supreme Court put its official seal of approval on the practice it became acceptable to many people. Something that was a crime and considered murder became a *right*.


43 posted on 12/03/2011 5:59:26 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: all the best

exactly...I found the “law of the land” approach lacking too.
You could tell by the girl’s face that she was listening to circular logic.

From the girls viewpoint - Michelle says...you don’t have special rights based on your sex practices.
The girl is thinking...but heterosexuals have an “extra” privelege to get married.

Everyone is missing the point.

The very definition of marriage is the union of male/female
You just can’t make it mean the opposite of what it has always meant.


44 posted on 12/03/2011 6:19:49 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: longtermmemmory

we are slowing turning into a child-producing-non-heterosexual-marriage society.

The young’uns aren’t getting married - they are living together, procreating, fighting, breaking up, moving out, finding another partner,repeat.
It has become the new circle of life.

This new system provides the foster care system with plenty of kids to place into the care of homosexual couples.


45 posted on 12/03/2011 6:27:06 PM PST by Scotswife
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