Hands in the air, step away from the American made lightbulb!
Posted on 12/04/2011 3:48:27 PM PST by djf
I don't know of any now... but here are my thoughts... Sometime between now and Jan 1 large chains and even local stores will DUMP THEIR INVENTORY possibly for PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR!
So if you hear about good deals for 100 watters, please post away. I need to stock up on the clear ones...
Ask Fred Upton if he knows of any good buys.
Hubby and I have a difference of opinion....is this a nationwide ban on 100 watt bulbs or just the state of Cali?
Nationwide. Sorry! :(
Been unloading truckloads of the incandescents the last few weeks,gonna stock up,thank you Mr. Edison.
Our local Home Depot has pallets of bulbs, with about 20% off sale tag. There is a sign that is explaining the new law, I have been surprised how many people didn’t know.
I think there are exceptions in SC and TX.
only outlaws will have them.
I’ve not heard of any exception here in South Carolina. Doubt there is one as this is a Federal law. Why would one or two states be exempted?
There was some talk about manufacturing them for sale within the state of Michigan as a means of sidestepping the law. Unfortunately few industries can survive entirely within the borders of a single state.
what about 250 watt bulbs? That’s what I use. are those banned too?
cases of 48 @ 66 cents per bulb.
Dispelling Myths about the Federal Light Bulb Standard
The following post is a contribution from Midwest Account Manager working in support of EPA’s ENERGY STAR Program Nora Buehler, with ICF International.
News of the imminent demise of the incandescent light bulb in the U.S. marketplace is greatly exaggerated. While the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (EISA) eventually requires that all general service lamps (i.e., light bulbs) use 60-70% less energy than today’s typical incandescent bulbs[i], the standards set by the bill are technology neutral and phase in over an 8 year period beginning January 2012—initially reducing energy use by 25% percent.[ii] Here are some misconceptions about EISA and a few facts to dispel them:
Myth #1: CFLs will be required by 2012 and incandescent will be banned
Under the new law, screw-based bulbs will be required to use less electricity (measured in watts) for the amount of light produced (measured in lumens). The table below, directly from EISA 2007 legislation, shows the new requirements that come into effect between 2012 and 2014. The table generally corresponds from top to bottom to 100, 75, 60, and 40 watt traditional incandescent bulbs.[iii]
GENERAL SERVICE INCANDESCENT LAMPS Rated Lumen Ranges Maximum Rate Wattage Minimum Rate Lifetime Effective Date 1490-2600 72 1,000 hrs 1/1/2012 1050-1489 53 1,000 hrs 1/1/2013 750-1049 43 1,000 hrs 1/1/2014 310-749 29 1,000 hrs 1/1/2014
SC proposes to build the bulb . . . . . .
“An incandescent light bulb that is manufactured commercially or privately in this state from basic materials that can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state and is offered for sale and sold for use only within the borders of this state is deemed to be in the stream of intrastate commerce, rather than interstate commerce, and is not subject to federal law or federal regulation,”
Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. Be brave as your fathers before you. Have faith! Go forward!
Thomas A. Edison
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Any buggy whip sales going on? I need one to make my car go faster.
I’ve not heard of any exception here in South Carolina. Doubt there is one as this is a Federal law. Why would one or two states be exempted?
I’ve not heard of any exception here in South Carolina. Doubt there is one as this is a Federal law. Why would one or two states be exempted?
I’ve not heard of any exception here in South Carolina. Doubt there is one as this is a Federal law. Why would one or two states be exempted?
I’ve not heard of any exception here in South Carolina. Doubt there is one as this is a Federal law. Why would one or two states be exempted?
Sorry but this is silly. LED's are coming. Get used to it.
Don’t think the automobile was a Federal Government mandate,maybe I’m mistaken.
You’re right. I had forgotten about that. However, I have heard nothing about manufacturing 100 watt light bulbs here in SC.
I think cripplecreek was right in reply #11, “Unfortunately few industries can survive entirely within the borders of a single state.”
I’ve not heard of any exception here in South Carolina. Doubt there is one as this is a Federal law. Why would one or two states be exempted?
Importantly, make sure the Lumens (brightness) rating on the bulbs are at least 1500. Some manufacturers are trying to sell 100W bulbs with as little as 900 Lumens, which is about as bright as a 60W.
Hands in the air, step away from the American made lightbulb!
Sorry, we have bigger problems than light bulbs. Besides who really understands that technology is changing for the better. We are saving $300 a month in our small museum using LED’s. There really are a few things we need to pay attention to without getting on the old timer bandwagon.
Our problem is that the LED’s are all made in China. Where is Mr. Dumb Bastard Obama advocating USA manufacturing?
Well,you posted the comment,not me.
That is not the point of this argument my friend. We are saving $300 a month using LED’s. Cars are another matter. You cannot compare combustion engines to lights, candles or buggy whips.
And your point is?
Do you seriously not get the analogy he alludes to?? Seriously?? The point is liberty. The point of EVERYTHING is liberty. I don't care if a given technology is the least efficient idea ever conceived. It's stillbeyond the federal government's jurisdiction to decide whether or not someone is "allowed" to manufacture it or whether I'm "allowed" to used it.
I suggest you talk to the orderlies at the local hospital emergency room. I’ve been told they find an occasional light bulb you could have for free.
In the olden days, the marketplace took care of that, not a federal mandate. I don't recall reading about how Washington DC passed a law forbidding the sale of buggy whips. Perhaps you can point me to that little bit of legislation.
Let’s change the subject,obviously we don’t agree on buggy whips and automobiles,What do you think of Unions?
There’s nothing silly about it, the government telling you what lightbulbs you can and can’t use is just plain evil. It’s none of the government’s damned business. If I want to use the most inefficient bulbs money can buy I’m the one paying the bill, it’s my RIGHT and the government should F off and balance their own budget.
Glad you're not a stock broker, you'd probably recommend buying high and selling low..........
Why not? I don't think people on FR willingly waste resources. Certainly not in this economic climate. You may prefer to use a LED light bulb, but you can't possibly know why many people want to use various incandescent light bulbs. Maybe your computers consume too much power and it would be in the public interest to limit your use...
Sorry, we have bigger problems than light bulbs.Maybe, but probably not. That problem is an overweening and plenary government. One designed to be neither. May I suggest Hertz Rent-A-Clue?
History is chock full of examples of the old being replaced by the new through natural market forces.
Not too many folks using wooden plows or stone knives these days. They were replaced by metals because people wanted the more durable metal implements. Not many kids going to arcades and stuffing quarters into video games. Market forces closed the arcades and put them into a small home based format. Can you even buy a black and white TV these days? If not, its because not enough were sold to make it profitable to manufacture them.
I have no doubt that the incandescent bulb and internal combustion engine will one day go the way of the dinosaur, but in a free world it will be because the consumer no longer wants them.
Well, we now have a “fee” attached to our water bill that has doubled the bill.
Please my FRiend you must have me confused with someone that really gives a shit about lightbulbs. My only point in this discussion is to point out that in certain ways technology changes for the better.
Do I agree that government needs to make us change our approach? No I do not, however once in a while we trick the dumb bastards who think they have mandated things and they play into our hands. Led’s are the best thing that has happened in a long time.
And to bring up unions is really silly. Matter of fact it has nothing to do with this discussion. I am a small businessman that is in a right to work state. These union idiots have caused our sales to decrease by 50% in the last three years.They even closed the road to east Zion National Park last year to use their stimulus money with a union crew to resurface a road that didn’t need resurfacing. We are doing everything we can to lower costs. One of those ways is to cut costs of electricity.
We already drive to SC for fireworks and gasoline. Why not lightbulbs?
Well, for my eyes, the spectrum of a clear incandescent bulb has always been the best...
(I’ve tried to post a reply a bunch of times on the thread but got 503’d every time!!)
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