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Reminder: Here's Who Was Winning The Election In December 2003
Business Insider ^ | 12/07/2011 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 12/07/2011 8:05:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In late September 2003, Howard Dean led all Democratic candidates in fundraising, and had the most "cash-on-hand"

By November he was racking up the endorsements of major labor unions, who were believed to be essential for organizing a "ground game" in the early states. The media was taking seriously his campaign's idea of a "$100 revolution," that two million Americans would give him $100 to beat George Bush.

And at this point in the 2004 election cycle, Howard Dean picked up the most prized endorsement, from Al Gore. Everyone knew he had flaws, but Democrats were putting him on the top of most polls.

Dean placed third at the Iowa Caucuses that January 19. John Kerry and John Edwards both overtook him. He gave his infamous "scream" that same night while trying to buck up his disappointed supporters in Iowa. It seemed like he was cracking under the stress. And his campaign never recovered.

Bottom line: there is still plenty of time for current Republican front-runners to fall apart.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: 2003; democrats; howarddean

1 posted on 12/07/2011 8:05:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Dean... lol.

But, but, Gringrich can debate! The election is all about debates. I can’t wait for the debates. Did you know that there are going to be... debates? Debates!

Did I tell you about debates?


2 posted on 12/07/2011 8:09:01 AM PST by sagar
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To: SeekAndFind
Sarah Palin's endorsement will give some candidate a big bump in the polls.

...the polls that survey Republican voters that is.

I don't think she would endorse Mitt or Newt.

Who will she endorse?

3 posted on 12/07/2011 8:10:04 AM PST by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: SeekAndFind

2003 is not 2011 in soooo many ways - so the idea that the current field might totally change may be right - but to use 03 (or any other cycle for that matter) is a phony comparison.

This has been a pre primary season like no other. People are paying more attention earlier than ever. Our field has already undergone like four total make overs already. And there have been many more debates watched by many more people than ever before.

So techinically, yes, there is time for anything to happen. But, to ignore that it is “later” than it normally is by December of the year prior is to ignore what has happened since May.


4 posted on 12/07/2011 8:13:41 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Democrats got scared. While Dean was as leftist as they come, they realized he couldn’t be packaged into a viable candidate for the General Election. So they chose the “safer” Kerry.

Same thing happened in 2008. Hillary was well known to be the Champion of the left, but the leftists got weak-knees knowing she couldn’t win in the General.

USUALLY, conservatives have bucked the trend and actually voted on principles knowing that conservative ideas and ideology is strong enough to stand on its own merit.

However, we’re seeing the same mistake the Democrats made in 2004 being made by Republicans in 2012.

Bachmann, Cain, and Santorum were the most conservative candidates in the race and the best choices. But a bunch of voters are now whimping out and trying to go with a “safer” alternative of Newt Gingrich despite the man’s massive baggage and non-conservative stances. History has shown that when you play this game with that kind of fear, you’re going to lose.


5 posted on 12/07/2011 8:16:15 AM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

6 posted on 12/07/2011 8:24:44 AM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for this timely reminder. A glimmer of hope in a flood of swooning over one of the most stereotypical pols in history.

And that is not a compliment.


7 posted on 12/07/2011 8:38:11 AM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dean was an amateur listening to the media hype about his own campaign. He had no “ground game” and it showed. Neither Gingrich or Romney is that stupid (about campaigning, anyway).


8 posted on 12/07/2011 8:38:11 AM PST by brothers4thID (http://scarlettsays.blogspot.com/)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The biggest difference is that this year we are only three weeks out from the first votes.


9 posted on 12/07/2011 8:41:54 AM PST by Ingtar (Newt (four more for Obama) & Mitt (Obamacare) - what wonderful choices!)
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To: sagar
Debates! Debates! Yes, it's all about humiliating Obama in the debates! It's not enough that he looks stupid every day of the year, there must be revenge! Humiliation! Thrilling grinding of the face into the political ground! That's what makes a good President!

Oh, and btw, does anyone care that *someone's* support for global warming legislation goes back to the 1980's, just after he'd finished up a stint as Professor of Environmental Studies at West Georgia College?

10 posted on 12/07/2011 8:42:49 AM PST by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>Here’s Who Was Winning The Election In December 2003

Indeed; in mid-Dec. of 2003 I was staying for the weekend at my elderly father’s home on Cape Cod. On a Sunday morning I get up and he’s got the TV on—Saddam has been captured in his spider hole.

My Dad, a lifelong Democrat, said, “No way Dean’s gonna
win the election now...”

Howard Dean, former Gov of VT: We’re going to Burlington!
And Brattleboro! And Rutland! Then we’re going to St. Johnsbury! And Bennington! And Stowe! Then we’re going to Montpelier to take back the State House! Arrrrrrrrrrgh!


11 posted on 12/07/2011 8:57:47 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: parksstp
Same thing happened in 2008. Hillary was well known to be the Champion of the left, but the leftists got weak-knees knowing she couldn’t win in the General.

I disagree with this point.

Hillary was the safer choice, but the Dems knew 2008 would be a good year for them and they went bold by choosing Obama.

2012 looks to be a good GOP year. The GOP should go big rather than playing it safe with Romney.

12 posted on 12/07/2011 9:16:24 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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