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128GB NAND flash smartphones are incoming
The Inquirer ^ | Wed Dec 07 2011, 13:01 | Chris Martin

Posted on 12/07/2011 8:23:08 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Courtesy of Intel and Micron

SEMICONDUCTOR FIRMS Intel and Micron have teamed up to produce the world's first 128Gb NAND flash device.

The die will be fabbed on a 20nm process and grouping eight together will equal 1Tb, or 128GB of data storage in a small package about the size of a fingertip. The firms said the device will be going into mass production in the first half of next year and will be ideal for smartphones and tablets.

Intel and Micron 128Gb NAND Flash

Glen Hawk, VP of NAND solutions at Micron said, "As portable devices get smaller and sleeker, and server demands increase, our customers look to Micron for innovative new storage technologies and system solutions that meet these challenges,"

"Our collaboration with Intel continues to deliver leading NAND technologies and expertise that are critical to building those systems."

Samples will be available to vendors next month, so we could see devices such as smartphones and tablets launched with this storage technology next year.

The 128Gb capacity flash is twice the storage size of the companies' existing 20nm 64Gb NAND device. Intel and Micron said the new capacity device meets the ONFI 3.0 specification of speeds up to 333MT/s.

Rob Crooke, VP of memory solutions at Intel said, "It is gratifying to see the continued NAND leadership from the Intel-Micron joint development with yet more firsts as our manufacturing teams deliver these high-density, low-cost, compute-quality 20nm NAND devices." µ


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: hitech; mobiledevices; smartphones

1 posted on 12/07/2011 8:23:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 12/07/2011 8:24:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But how much will it cost?


3 posted on 12/07/2011 8:24:49 PM PST by wastedyears (Not too long you devious little parathyroid. Soon I'll be rid of you and I'll be free.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But will they wash the dishes?


4 posted on 12/07/2011 8:26:38 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: All; KarlInOhio; rarestia; antiRepublicrat; PapaBear3625; 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
From April:

Toshiba reveals 19nm NAND flash ( Aims for 128 Gbytes for Smartphones?)

5 posted on 12/07/2011 8:29:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
My first 4K card was S-100 bus standard. I'm not going to look up the size, but it was about 8"x4". It cost $400. The card was packed. For 4K.

It all moves SO fast. If I wasn't numb, I'd say I was in future shock.

If automotive technology had kept the same pace, I'd be having breakfast in Alpha Centuri. And throw away the car when I got there.

/johnny

6 posted on 12/07/2011 8:37:06 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: wastedyears
But how much will it cost?

Probably less than my S-100 4K card. Sigh....

And that was real money, back then. Better, anyway.

/johnny

7 posted on 12/07/2011 8:39:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

We had an IBM XT given to us back in the late 1980’s. I remember upgrading the original 10MB HD to a GIANT Seagate 32 MB for “only” $279.

That’s over $485 in today’s dollars.


8 posted on 12/07/2011 8:44:14 PM PST by BwanaNdege (“Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address” - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

well that really dashes my hopes for a cassette in/out connector on my next phone!


9 posted on 12/07/2011 9:01:18 PM PST by bigbob
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To: BwanaNdege

I used to work at Computerland in the 80’s and would setup new computers.

AST Above boards were the memory board of choice then. 256K chips with 9 chips in a bank (8 data and 1 parity bits) and 4 banks to make one MB. The chips cost $50 each.

$50/chip
9 chips/bank
4banks / MB
2 MB/board
optional daughter board would hold 2 more MB.

Total over $7,000 for 4 MB of memory.


10 posted on 12/07/2011 9:02:25 PM PST by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

128GB does not equal 1TB.. something is wrong with their math.

Likely a typo as one 1TB is 1024gb


11 posted on 12/07/2011 9:13:33 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That thumbnail is now approaching or surpassing the capacity of the enter DASD farm where I worked 25 years ago (a DASD farm of the period was a big room with a collection of small refrigerator sized controllers each with a 12 inch cakebox on top that contained 8 discs). We stored 5 GB per spindle (each cakebox). The room required an enormous amount of power both to operate the devices and to cool them. Millions of dollars of equipment operated at thousands of dollars per month.

And the equivalent storage is now is for what? Is it going to be inserted into a computer? Is it part of an iPad? Is part of a phone?

I hope I have conveyed it well enough for the younger among you to appreciate it but this is technology advancing at breakneck speed. This is a million dollar computer floor in the palm of your hand!


12 posted on 12/07/2011 9:17:48 PM PST by jimfree (In Nov 2012 Herman Cain will have more relevant and quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: cableguymn
128GB does not equal 1TB.. something is wrong with their math.

128 GB == 1 Tb

13 posted on 12/07/2011 9:21:38 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Greysard

1 tbs = 2 tsp


14 posted on 12/07/2011 9:27:46 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: Greysard

1 tbs = 2 tsp


15 posted on 12/07/2011 9:27:51 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Israel is real:))
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To: Greysard

1024 bytes = 1 KB
1024 KB = 1 MB
1024 MB = 1 GB
1024 GB = 1 TB (TERABYTE).


16 posted on 12/07/2011 9:30:31 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: bigbob

They still have them. They all them the headset/headphone jack ;)


17 posted on 12/07/2011 9:31:32 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: bigbob

They still have them. They all them the headset/headphone jack ;)


18 posted on 12/07/2011 9:31:51 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: cableguymn

The quote was “...and grouping eight together will equal 1Tb, or 128GB of data storage in a small package about the size of a fingertip.”

So, eight of these chips together (larger than a fingertip) is 1TB, or you can have just one, which *would* be the size of your fingertip.


19 posted on 12/07/2011 9:38:40 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

‘Course the craziest paradox and dilemma is that all you need is on this tinnie device you can hold in your hand, but to read it, to handle it all, you need a 24’’ screen!


20 posted on 12/07/2011 9:41:23 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Little Pig

Nope.. 8 of them are just over 800GB..

8 X 1024= 8192GB


21 posted on 12/07/2011 9:51:32 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: Little Pig

never mind.. my math went fuzzy on me. never freep and do other things at the same time.


22 posted on 12/07/2011 9:52:42 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Rob Crooke, VP of memory solutions at Intel said...

Hmmmm. Why do I feel a bit queasy about what a guy named Rob Crooke has to say? Must be tough going through life with a name like that.

23 posted on 12/07/2011 9:53:26 PM PST by MCH
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To: MCH
I know Rob, he pronounces it 'Kroo-key'!
24 posted on 12/07/2011 9:55:31 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: cableguymn

As I said, “128 GB == 1 Tb” and the article is correct on all accounts. The lowercase ‘b’ denotes bits, and uppercase ‘B’ denotes bytes. One byte contains 8 bits. 128 GB * 8 == 1024 Gb == 1 Tb.


25 posted on 12/07/2011 10:20:46 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sweet!


26 posted on 12/07/2011 11:41:25 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Greysard

How much longer before we get self aware machines and we have to go through the whole Terminator routine?


27 posted on 12/07/2011 11:42:04 PM PST by M1911A1
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To: bigbob

LOL


28 posted on 12/07/2011 11:44:37 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Dogbert41

LOL!


29 posted on 12/07/2011 11:46:44 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Dogbert41

LOL!


30 posted on 12/07/2011 11:46:47 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

....cool....


31 posted on 12/08/2011 4:08:36 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: M1911A1
How much longer before we get self aware machines and we have to go through the whole Terminator routine?

According to Al Gore we are doomed anyway. The rising seas will drown us all as early as in 2011.

32 posted on 12/08/2011 8:04:48 AM PST by Greysard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

grouping eight together will equal 1Tb, or 128GB of data storage in a small package about the size of a fingertip.

wow.. impressive.


33 posted on 12/08/2011 10:02:32 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: bigbob

ROFL!


34 posted on 12/08/2011 1:49:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: cableguymn

The chips store 128 gigabits.
8 chips will store 1 terabyte.


35 posted on 12/08/2011 2:04:19 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: jimfree
And the equivalent storage is now is for what? Is it going to be inserted into a computer? Is it part of an iPad? Is part of a phone?

Yes. SD cards for photo/videography now reach 64GB. My iPad has 64GB flash; you can be sure the next version (with "retina" display demanding much more storage) will be at least 128GB. iMacs have 256GB flash storage as an option; this will make those much cheaper. Phones, now maxing at 32GB, will soon be there.

Yeah. The DASD farms we both knew back then as storing the "digital crown jewels" of the corporation at costs of millions for equipment & personnel are now squished into your pocket for convenient access to your music & video entertainment at a cost of a couple day's pay. ...and at the same time, Google is well on its way to living up to its name (meaning "10^100") in storage capabilities.

36 posted on 12/08/2011 2:20:00 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: bigbob

FWIW, I just picked up a cassette player with a USB port for $14.


37 posted on 12/08/2011 2:21:47 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Probably less than my S-100 4K card. Sigh....

16GB flash drives are about $15 and 64GB are $99. For it to sell, it can't be out of line with those numbers.

38 posted on 12/08/2011 2:43:01 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: cableguymn
something is wrong with their math.

The article says they are ganging 8 together to get the terabyte.

Having a discussion like this just 30 years ago would have been unthinkable.

In 5 years we'll be talking about petabytes.

And I don't know the greek prefixes after that. I'm going to need to study. And need more memory.

/johnny

39 posted on 12/08/2011 6:05:02 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: ctdonath2
The DASD farms we both knew back then as storing the "digital crown jewels" of the corporation at costs of millions for equipment & personnel are now squished into your pocket for convenient access to your music & video entertainment at a cost of a couple day's pay.

Oy.. I worked at a DOD contractor who shall remain un-named except for unofficial moniker of "Shade-tree AeroSpace" for their aviation branch....

They had one of those. Robot arms and mechanical devices moving large hot-plug devices. I won't say the numbers that thing sold for.... But it took more room than my house.

Kurzweil was right. Log/Log growth is kicking ass.

/johnny

40 posted on 12/08/2011 6:12:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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