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Holder Puts Obama in a Double Bind
FoxNews.com ^ | December 09, 2011 | Chris Stirewalt

Posted on 12/10/2011 5:55:34 PM PST by DBCJR

Rep. James Sensenbrenner: “Tell me what's the difference between lying and misleading Congress, in this context?” Attorney General Eric Holder: “Well, if you want to have this legal conversation, it all has to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the requisite intent to come up with something that would be considered perjury or a lie.”

-- Exchange from a House hearing on the Operation Fast and Furious gunrunning sting. ... Such is the case with Eric Holder, who turned in a snappish, hair-splitting performance in his latest round of testimony before congressional Republicans irate over his agency’s handling of a gunrunning sting in the Southwest. ... He also played martyr, invoking red-baiting Sen. Joseph McCarthy to attack his chief inquisitor, Rep. Darrell Issa, asking if the California Republican had “no shame.” Holder did worse than in his last round of questioning and he will likely do worse the next time as he visibly chafes at being badgered by Republicans who he believes are only interested in political gain. The problem for Holder is that the underlying case and initial response from his department look just dreadful. The more he bristles, the more attention will come to the botched sting. But as the pressure builds from the right, liberals are rallying to Holder’s defense. He is an increasingly revered figure on the left for not just what they see as his victimization by Republicans but also his status as the liberal conscience of an administration so many liberals have found wanting....

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; ericholder; fandfhearing; fastandfurious; fastfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; obama; sensenbrenner
Impeach Holder.
1 posted on 12/10/2011 5:55:42 PM PST by DBCJR
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To: DBCJR
No fear. Holder is a stuck pig and Issa is a bulldog. He'll get him, step by step...
2 posted on 12/10/2011 5:57:53 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: DBCJR
Headlines are fun to read, But Holder, Obama and associates are in no more of a bind then John Corzine.

Their friends in the media are looking for a new story to take this off the front page as soon as they can find it.

3 posted on 12/10/2011 6:01:36 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: DBCJR
his status as the liberal conscience ...

Funny thing about the "liberal conscience"-- telling gun store owners to sell arms to criminal gangs who then use the guns to murder federal agents and innocent Mexican citizens.

I guess it's like Robert McNamara-- who in his own memoir stated that he sent men off to die in a war in Vietnam that he believed was unwinnable all in the interest of keeping the Great Society on track. What's 58,000 U.S. combat deaths to Liberals?

4 posted on 12/10/2011 6:02:01 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: DBCJR

Hey Holder.....you sick son of a bitch.....drop the martyr act. It ain’t working, son.

You should be clamped in irons and frog-marched off to jail.


5 posted on 12/10/2011 6:02:46 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: DBCJR

Impeach the racist Socialist bastard!


6 posted on 12/10/2011 6:03:40 PM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: DBCJR

“Well, if you want to have this legal conversation, it all has to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the requisite intent to come up with something that would be considered perjury or a lie.” “

That is NOT what I was TAUGHT about LIES and TRUTH when I was growing up. Did he just make that up?

Isn’t he really saying, all you have to do is to never admit you lied, and that makes it ok and legal.


7 posted on 12/10/2011 6:03:40 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yes he will get him, and it is getting fun to watch Holder squirm, at times it seems like Issa and the others would like (well if they had a popgun, which of course is not allowed in there and they would never do such a thing), to stand up and put one between that mans eyes while saying SHUT the hell UP.


8 posted on 12/10/2011 6:05:15 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Lysandru

Robert McNamara sent men off to die but made sure his son never went to Vietnam.


9 posted on 12/10/2011 6:05:51 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: UCANSEE2

“Depends on what “is” is.”


10 posted on 12/10/2011 6:07:53 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: Old Sarge

Impeach the racist Socialist bastard!

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Well said, Old Sarge.
And while we’re at it, do the same to that Marxist/Muslim sob in the White House!


11 posted on 12/10/2011 6:08:17 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: DBCJR

Watching Holder dodge and evade reminds me so much of Billy Jeff parsing the meaning of “is”.

And yet, on the CNN website, there’s no shortage of outrage from the left at the way this idiot is being questioned.

We truly need to physically separate from those who desire cradle to grave socialism, and let them experience all that a worker’s paradise has to offer.


12 posted on 12/10/2011 6:10:01 PM PST by Tigerized (Occupy Wall Street? Go find the real culprits in the Capitol Building...)
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To: DBCJR
“That depends on what your definition of "is" is”

Bill Clinton

13 posted on 12/10/2011 6:10:54 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: DBCJR
Holder Puts Obama in a Double Bind

TRANSLATION:

Bambi's Attorney Genital Holder has him by the balls and will bring him down.

14 posted on 12/10/2011 6:11:42 PM PST by Blado (2008: Year Zero of the Zombie Apocalypse.)
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To: DBCJR
"..the botched sting...."

The only "sting" that's been botched is the GOP trying to catch H0lder.

15 posted on 12/10/2011 6:16:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: DBCJR
This alone is reason to impeach the RACIST LAW BREAKER.


16 posted on 12/10/2011 6:16:47 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: DBCJR

Holder knows the longer he stonewalls Issa the more this will look political

Holder also has a silent MSM media giving him lots of wiggle room by basically not asking the really tought questions

In the end Issa will win, but I wonder at what cost


17 posted on 12/10/2011 6:21:33 PM PST by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Absolutely.


18 posted on 12/10/2011 6:33:31 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: DBCJR
The first rule of keeping out of jail when you are under oath is to keep your mouth shut.

The second rule of keeping out of jail when you are under oath is to keep your mouth shut.

Eric is the top lawyer in the country, and he does not know the first two rules.

19 posted on 12/10/2011 7:15:44 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Holding our flawed politicians to higher standards than the enemy’s politicians guarantees they win)
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To: Lysandru

Part of the Kennedy myth is that JFK was going to pull out of Vietnam once he was re-elected, but never told LBJ—so the later escalation was all LBJ’s fault. But that means that Kennedy was willing to let men die in Vietnam for his own political gain, lest “losing Vietnam” threaten his re-election.


20 posted on 12/10/2011 7:50:30 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Worst case scenario, Obama can always pardon Holder. I doubt it will get to that point--the Republican Party leadership is too afraid of being called racists or partisan.

There was a black woman on "Fox News Watch" today (I don't remember her name or recall having seen her before). She dismissed the "Fast & Furious" controversy as a partisan witch-hunt.

Holder probably can't figure out why anyone is making a big deal over one white border agent being killed by Mexican drug cartel members. It's not like James Byrd's being killed by three white men.

21 posted on 12/10/2011 7:55:43 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But he does know that civil rights laws apply only to white on black, not black on white, oppression. He sure knows how to parse his law!


22 posted on 12/10/2011 8:11:00 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: All
I was waiting for one of the congressman to say to Holder:

” Your answer sounds like Bill Clintons meaning of is is.”

Here's what Clinton told the grand jury:

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is. If the—if he—if ‘is’ means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true.”

23 posted on 12/10/2011 8:40:48 PM PST by troy McClure
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To: DBCJR
let's face it, we're stuck with the FPOS till the boy is out of office...
24 posted on 12/10/2011 8:52:40 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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