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'Vocal Fry' Creeping Into U.S. Speech
Science Now ^ | 12/11/2011 | Science Now

Posted on 12/11/2011 1:13:33 PM PST by Dallas59

A curious vocal pattern has crept into the speech of young adult women who speak American English: low, creaky vibrations, also called vocal fry. Pop singers, such as Britney Spears, slip vocal fry into their music as a way to reach low notes and add style. Now, a new study of young women in New York state shows that the same guttural vibration—once considered a speech disorder—has become a language fad.

Vocal fry, or glottalization, is a low, staccato vibration during speech, produced by a slow fluttering of the vocal chords (listen here). Since the 1960s, vocal fry has been recognized as the lowest of the three vocal registers, which also include falsetto and modal—the usual speaking register. Speakers creak differently according to their gender, although whether it is more common in males or females varies among languages. In American English, anecdotal reports suggest that the behavior is much more common in women. (In British English, the pattern is the opposite.) Historically, continual use of vocal fry was classified as part of a voice disorder that was believed to lead to vocal chord damage. However, in recent years, researchers have noted occasional use of the creak in speakers with normal voice quality.


TOPICS: Science; Society
KEYWORDS: english; glottalization; language; vocalfry; vocalglottalization
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1 posted on 12/11/2011 1:13:49 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
Good Example Here
2 posted on 12/11/2011 1:14:57 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Dallas59

You can hear it at the end of each sentence.


3 posted on 12/11/2011 1:16:08 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Dallas59

That link features the voice of the dreadful “Powered by TellMe” robot agent at the toll-free customer service phone numbers of some major companies. It’s very grating and annoying.

I end up screaming “AGENT!” at it to dismiss it and get a real live person to speak to me.


4 posted on 12/11/2011 1:20:26 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Dallas59
Wow! Now that I understand it enough to listen for it, it really is annoying>
5 posted on 12/11/2011 1:22:25 PM PST by suijuris
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To: suijuris

Fr...eeeeeee.


6 posted on 12/11/2011 1:24:20 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Dallas59

One of my daughters does this, she sounds like a 3PPD smoker


7 posted on 12/11/2011 1:25:28 PM PST by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Dallas59

Bookmark


8 posted on 12/11/2011 1:26:50 PM PST by GOP Poet (Time for Bambi and his commie crew to go.)
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To: Dallas59

I must be a result of the brain fried on drugs.


9 posted on 12/11/2011 1:28:33 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: Dallas59; Morgana; little jeremiah; writer33

Our culture is devolving very fast, this is but one small symptom.

Plus maybe ridicule would help.


10 posted on 12/11/2011 1:34:56 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Dallas59

It’s easy to do, I find. Just go “low and slow”. Youtube has a bunch of clips about how to practice it and amplify it into a “power fry”. Lordy.


11 posted on 12/11/2011 1:36:05 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Dallas59
They're right. Now that I know what it is, I recognize hearing it all the time and yes, especially from women. What's up? Do they think it's sexy? When Kenny Rogers did it in his songs the women seemed to like it.
12 posted on 12/11/2011 1:37:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: GOP Poet

I was wondering what that was. I hear it all the time, especially among young women, and it is very annoying.


13 posted on 12/11/2011 1:37:35 PM PST by MondoQueen
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To: Dallas59

Annoying.

One of the most annoying things to me is a voice that constantly sounds like they need to clear their throat.
Example; Rachel Ray


14 posted on 12/11/2011 1:42:33 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Dallas59
Good Example Here

You're kidding, right? That made as much sense as the calculus class I flunked in high school........

15 posted on 12/11/2011 1:46:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Be good, Santa is coming)
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To: GeronL; Windflier

Yikes, makes me sooo glad I’m a hermit. I’ll give it a listen later. Someone was telling me on FR - Windflier! - that young men seem to be asssuming an even worse (?) vocal mannerism - an artificially high effeminate tone to their speech. I’ve never heard it (Thankfully) but maybe he’ll chime in.

Windflier, was it you who told me about this?

So the girls sound like big frogs and the boys sound like fags. What next (I DON’T want to know).


16 posted on 12/11/2011 1:51:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah; GeronL; Windflier
Someone was telling me on FR - Windflier! - that young men seem to be asssuming an even worse (?) vocal mannerism - an artificially high effeminate tone to their speech.

Yes, I think it was Windflier who posted that. (Howdy.)

It's gotten so rare to hear a nice baritone (or base) male voice that when I do it's like hearing music.

17 posted on 12/11/2011 1:56:09 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Dallas59
I think I understand what you are talking about. I have noticed that young women sound like their voice is coming from deep in their throat (gravely) and yet it still has a sort of nasal(flat) sound to it(if that makes sense). I really hate it, it is sort of dead sounding.

I have also noticed that a lot of commercials on TV (especially for SUBURU) will have a person singing in a fuzzy non professional singer kind of voice with a string instrument of some kind as the only accompaniment. I think the ads are targeted towards women who talk in the “fry voice”.

18 posted on 12/11/2011 1:58:21 PM PST by Ditter
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To: thecodont

Bass not base. Argh.


19 posted on 12/11/2011 2:00:00 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Dallas59
can't be worse than than damn Upspeak... i that that, sounds like every sentence is a question?
20 posted on 12/11/2011 2:02:45 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I think you were supposed to listen to the sound of her voice (gravely) not what she was saying.


21 posted on 12/11/2011 2:03:05 PM PST by Ditter
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To: suijuris
Wow! Now that I understand it enough to listen for it, it really is annoying

Yeah, but it's better than up-talking -- another female speech fad that seems to be fading away.

22 posted on 12/11/2011 2:04:22 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Dallas59
So that's what's it called. I was listening to an audio book from
Librivox, and one reader really dragged out the last syllable of
each sentence, adding the 'fry.

Not that I'm complaining about the books being free, but it's enough of
a concentration hiccup changing readers between chapters, let
alone accents and genders, but the "stylists" are really annoying.

Still a lot better than the existing stockpile of machine read stuff.

23 posted on 12/11/2011 2:08:49 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Dallas59

Speaking “frog.”
Everything old is new again.


24 posted on 12/11/2011 2:14:15 PM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Dallas59

Evolution of the “Valley Girl”.


25 posted on 12/11/2011 2:15:00 PM PST by mcmuffin ("Wanting your country back is not the same thing as working to take it back." JB Williams, Patriot U)
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To: Dallas59

Slightly better that the rising lilt at the end of every statement making it sound like a question?


26 posted on 12/11/2011 2:15:15 PM PST by null and void (Day 1055 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes arent made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Chode
can't be worse than than damn Upspeak...

I think that started in western Canada? I was on a ski vacation to Sunshine Village in Alberta back in the '90's and heard the residents talking like that?

Drove me fricking nuts? I mean, really?

27 posted on 12/11/2011 2:18:40 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Be good, Santa is coming)
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To: Hot Tabasco
damn right???
28 posted on 12/11/2011 2:24:56 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Sounds like a gaggle of witches to me. You also hear it from the smarty pants liberal Asian college girls.


29 posted on 12/11/2011 2:27:11 PM PST by Mandingo Conservative (Satan was like the first "community organizer", just ask Eve, the first liberal useful idiot!)
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To: Dallas59

I would prefer fried fish and chips, with lashings of salt and malt vinegar.


30 posted on 12/11/2011 2:39:23 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Dallas59

I’ve been noticing this for a good year now. Drives me nuts. Dumb ass affectation.


31 posted on 12/11/2011 2:43:07 PM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: suijuris

Many of the science podcasts I listen to have women that talk this way. Up until now I thought they were just uneducated dorks that speak this way. For a good example, check out the “Stuff you missed in history class” podcasts at howstuffworks.com.


32 posted on 12/11/2011 2:43:36 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: Dallas59
You can hear it at the end of each sentence.

I think I got iiiiitttttt.......

Am I righttttt?

33 posted on 12/11/2011 2:45:07 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Be good, Santa is coming)
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To: Dallas59

One day while I was out walking,
I chanced upon two women talking,
Their voices grew low,
Frightfully so!—
‘Til they both sounded like Stephen Hawking.


34 posted on 12/11/2011 2:45:44 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: little jeremiah; thecodont
Windflier, was it you who told me about this?

Yeah, that was me - maybe a week or so ago.

I've been noticing that peculiar lilt among young guys for some time now. It's not all of them. Mostly the ones from major urban areas, but it's creeping beyond the borders of the big cities through mass media.

If you heard any clips of the young guys in the Occupy protests being interviewed, they almost all had that sing-songy, homo sounding accent. It's so pervasive, that I don't think they even hear it.

35 posted on 12/11/2011 3:00:35 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Chode
can't be worse than than damn Upspeak... i that that, sounds like every sentence is a question?

OMG, I hate that. I simply refuse to spend any quality time talking to a person who has that habit.

Severe ridicule may be the only cure for these stupid vocal oddities.

36 posted on 12/11/2011 3:08:19 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I’m kind of funny - I really don’t like listening to people via youtube, news clips, etc. I try to always read transcripts or articles. Because the sound of peoples’ voices sticks in my mind, I catch their emotions and consciousness in a sense, or taste it, via the sound of their voice. For instance, I’ve only heard 0bastard a very few times, and each time I shut it off very quickly.

I don’t know why I have such an abhorrance for hearing like this, my ears are very senstiive? I’m a sort of musician? I never watch movies or TV so I’m raw? I don’t know...


37 posted on 12/11/2011 3:09:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Ditter

I knew a girl who did that when she was,,,,,, errrrr,,,, nevermind.


38 posted on 12/11/2011 3:10:44 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dallas59

Maybe it’s a pseudo-intellectual reaction against “upspeak” — i.e., a way to show that you’re NOT a valley girl!

And IMHO, it’s not nearly as bad as the growing fad whereby almost every sentence starts with the word “so” — a phenomenon that probably began among the professorate and has now trickled down to recent college grads. Most of the OWS protestors seem to talk this way.

Moreover, neither of these grating habits is as awful as Billy Jeff Clinton’s old seasonal refrain, “Merry Christmas from Hillary and I!”


39 posted on 12/11/2011 3:16:34 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Windflier
when they do it, say "I don't know." or something indicating you think you are answering a question, and when they say don't know what, tell them "You ask me a question didn't you???" see what they say then...
40 posted on 12/11/2011 3:17:54 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Dallas59

That girl is nearly impossible to listen to.


41 posted on 12/11/2011 3:26:10 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Ditter

At the end of a sentence, she lowers a her voice and a very low raspy waver comes over the end of the last word.


42 posted on 12/11/2011 3:28:17 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Yes...low wavy raspy on the end of each word at the end of each sentence. It’s not the accent.


43 posted on 12/11/2011 3:29:41 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Dallas59

Ugh!


44 posted on 12/11/2011 3:30:38 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Dallas59; a fool in paradise
Are we not devo?
45 posted on 12/11/2011 3:32:44 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Dallas59

How did it start? Somewhere in the TV land fer shore!


46 posted on 12/11/2011 3:36:21 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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.


47 posted on 12/11/2011 3:38:14 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Freedom Of Choice
48 posted on 12/11/2011 3:39:48 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2011)
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To: Excellence

You wrote: “Speaking ‘frog.’ Everything old is new again.”

Reminds me of the Marine Drill Instructors from the 3rd Recruit Training Battalion, Recruit Training Regiment, MCRD Parris Island, SC.

The 3rd Battalion DI’s had a distinctive “frog” voice unique to the Battalion. Much so, that if you encountered one of their Recruits with a “Walking Chit” who was headed for a Dental Appointment or some other appointment, an Officer or SNCO who might question his destination knew immediately from which Battalion he came when the Recruit spoke.


49 posted on 12/11/2011 3:56:43 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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To: Ditter

This trend may be part of feminism, to strip women of “feminine” voices.
When I was hitting my teens, I was lectured by more than one woman that my voice was too high, too girlish. I had to speak lower, “like a man”, to be treated as an adult and as respectable.
I lowered my voice because that is what I was told to do as an adult and to be respected. Then I scaled back my career when I had kids and received criticism that it wasn’t good enough for a woman with a college education.


50 posted on 12/11/2011 3:56:51 PM PST by tbw2
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